GDT: GM#73 LA Kings vs San Jose Sharks @7:30pm 3/21/19
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kingsfan28
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KINGS17
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King'sPawn
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Never gets old. Especially since I had to watch him slide on the ice when he eliminated the Kings in 2011.
riznat
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that ****ing turtle shell slide is burned into my memory
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Jason Squirties
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wow that 2nd period broadcast might have been the hardest 20min of hockey i've subjected myself to in a really long time.
on the flip side, the NHL tonight coverage of the 2-3 min highlights of the game made the ron burgandy appearance look very funny. thank god for editing.
on the flip side, the NHL tonight coverage of the 2-3 min highlights of the game made the ron burgandy appearance look very funny. thank god for editing.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Yep, even more obnoxious than usual. FWIW Leipsic at least went down the tunnel hurt, not sure of his status now, but yeah, "we're definitely, certainly, absolutely going to play the youth now because we're mathematically eliminated" update:
Anze Kopitar: 24
Jeff Carter: 20
Wagner: 9:49
Grundstrom: 12
Doughty: 25
LaDue 13
MacDermid 7
So to be very clear Anze Kopitar only played one minute less than Drew Doughty who played almost 20 minutes more than Kurtis MacDermid.
I'm gonna circle around the box scores and see how many players period played more than Kopitar. No one on SJ did, only Braun and Burns had even more than 20 min. Kopitar played more than Burns.
Edit: No one on AZ, VGK, BOS, NJ, CAR, MON, STL, CHI, COL, CAL, EDM. DeMelo played 2 more Dekeyser played 50ish s more, Pulock played 10 more seconds, Trouba played 10 more seconds, Ekblad played 50 more, Hedman played a minute more. Letang played 3 more minutes and in some really weird game vs. Pit, NSH basically benched their bottom pairing (Irwin and Weber got 6-7 minutes) and played their top 4 like crazy, Josi got 29, Ellis Ekholm Subban ~25. Provorov played 2 more. Klingberg/Lindell 1 min more. Jones/Werenski 1 min more.
So, in summary, out of 24 teams in action, Kopitar played more than anyone on 11 of them. Out of about 432 players, Kopitar ranked 17th, only a minute or less behind most of them, all of whom are either #1 d-men or circumstantially forced into more action than usual.
Like I said, you want to force feed the guy #1 d-man minutes, he's gonna wear down. What's the point at this point in the season? It's really truly insanity.
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One more thing about the broadcast that f***ing bothers me. When is the last time that they showed/discussed highlights from any other game around the league during intermission? Did they decide that Kings fans aren't really hockey fans that could possibly be interested in anything else going on around the league? That all we care about are celebrities and dogs?
Little Psycho
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I want the media to ask WD for his definition of "young guys" For all we know it could have been his plan all along to give young man #11 a lot of icetime for his efforts
I just don't get why the players driving possession aren't getting rewarded with more ice time. MacDermid and Grunny are top of the team in relative possession, why not see what they have to offer in a lost season? See how they would handle more responsibility when the points don't matter?
Steve Zissou
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This game was not only evident that our passing and breakouts have been piss poor this season, but we also don’t drive to the net.
No have no man w/o the puck heads there and when we have a chance with a puckcarrier ala Kopistar he circles the net to kick the puck back out to the D for a shot that either gets blocked or goes wide.
I do have hope for Grundstrom in this regard though.
No have no man w/o the puck heads there and when we have a chance with a puckcarrier ala Kopistar he circles the net to kick the puck back out to the D for a shot that either gets blocked or goes wide.
I do have hope for Grundstrom in this regard though.
deaderhead28
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To be honest,I care about this team not highlights of another team.I can go on my phone if I am that curious.
ZJames
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Just saw the highlights. What's with Kopitar? He looked aggressive (at least the highlights made it look that way). He waits until being eliminated from playoff contention before he actually looks for his shot and drives the net.
Steve Zissou
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It wasn't a drive to the net. He was already 7-8 feet (behind the play) from the net when the puck squirted to him.
From there it was only a shot or make a move.
That's kind of what happens when you only watch the highlights.
Legionnaire
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That's sadly his MO. When Kopitar drives to the net and tries to score he is much more effective than when he plays the role of the playmaker.
Steve Zissou
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KingsFan7824
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You're never going to take the coach out of a coach. Kopitar/etc all play a ton in close games, and when the team is trying to hold onto the lead, or get back in a close game. If it's a 5-1 game, one way or another, the young guys are likely to get more time. Especially if the Kings are somehow up that much in a game. Coaches don't trust young guys, and certainly not ones in WD's position. He's looking out for himself, and for any potential future jobs(I'm sure he'll get one somewhere in the hockey world around the globe). He's going to coach like he's trying to win, period.
Ollie Weeks
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lumbergh
It was an idea. I didn't say it was a good idea.
I get the points about Doughty, but I don't get the Kopitar thing. I mean, the Kings played with three centers, so naturally they all should get around 20 minutes, right? Kopitar got 24, Carter got 20, Kempe got 16. What's so weird? Naturally the centers are gonna get more minutes than the wingers. Maybe we just get off the scapegoat Kopitar train for one day.
By the way, Grundstrom got more 5 on 5 ice time than Toffoli, and looked great. Props to that kid.
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Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Let it burn....
I'm not scapegoating him and I think others have also fairly said we're paying him to be that guy, which is fair. But in a lost season where you say you're going to play the kids, you're giving Anze Kopitar more minutes than 2/3 of the #1 d-men playing in the NHL? The only forwards in the NHL getting comparable icetime in terms of deployment/minute spread are Barkov and Couturier and they are many years younger. Why continue to ride this guy into the ground when he's played more hockey than almost anyone this last decade and you have kids to give icetime to? Why not give Kopi 20, Kempe 20? It's not a criticism of Kopitar, it's a criticism of the coaching and their inability to realize you're not going to maximize the core's performance by riding them into the ground especially when you don't need to and doubly so when they're aging. Give this guy and Drew a small headstart on their summer with relative health and rest and let them bust their asses to not be embarassing this year, then play them a number of minutes that allows them to be more effective instead of just conservation/survival mode. Imagine what Drew could do if he knew he was playing 22-23 minutes instead of 28-30. Imagine what Kopitar could do if he wasn't getting ridden for all the PK time in the world and #1 d-man minutes, or got actual offensive deployment. Part of that is the roster behind them, I get it, and part of it is their two-way rather than just offensive abilities, and yet another part is their contracts/expectations; but this management team is doing a piss-poor job from top to bottom in maximizing their assets.
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