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This team is definitely 16 wins from a Cup if they make the playoffs.
You can feel it.
You can feel it.
Post-Game Talk: GM 53 | Canucks def. Avs 3-0 (DeBrusk, Boeser, O’Connor) | WE ARE SO F***ING BACK
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He’s probably still prank calling him to ask if his refrigerator’s running
Need Nylander and Forsberg to get EP’s confidence back up
VibinCanuck
No doubt about it, I am ready to get hurt again
Why would you say something so controversial, yet so brave?
They won't trade him for the simple fact your selling low on him only to get worse? Makes zero sense. The more likely scenario is either Tochett finally putting wingers he meshes with like Sherwood, Hogz while looking for a trade for a playmaking winger.
I also think they go after Marner or Miko if they hit the market.
EP was never getting traded over JT imo unless it was a star for a star. Eastern media ran off a bs rumour from Dhaliwal the hack.
Confidence is a bitch, I'd put him with Sherwood and either Hogz or Karlsson and staple him with Quinn, confidence can come back just as fast as its lost.
I think the four nations will be huge for him.
Bleach Clean
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Demko has hit his pre injury level. Crosses fingers. A beginning after so long struggling with his post-injury form. A lesson in patience.
Boeser was maddening to watch. He had opportunities he flubbed again and again. It wasn't his worst game because he still got those chances, but the nerves were showing. (Wonder if his contract status is getting to him?)
Pettersson was much like Boeser, only he's not finding a lift like Boeser found with Chytil. Not beating people one on one. Not making a play. Hesitant and lost. Hard to watch. He just has to dig himself out, somehow. Follow Demko's example.
DeBrusk, is on again. The team is desperate for scoring. Could not have come at a better time.
Hronek was pushing the play. Strong passing. Connecting. The frustration was shooting wide and making some questionable decisions on defense. On balance though, strong game.
DPetey - He's only 20 years old! He has shortened the timeline. Soucy even looks right with him. Wild development.
COL was a frustrated team. Wood is a goof. Some bad blood now between these two clubs.
Boeser was maddening to watch. He had opportunities he flubbed again and again. It wasn't his worst game because he still got those chances, but the nerves were showing. (Wonder if his contract status is getting to him?)
Pettersson was much like Boeser, only he's not finding a lift like Boeser found with Chytil. Not beating people one on one. Not making a play. Hesitant and lost. Hard to watch. He just has to dig himself out, somehow. Follow Demko's example.
DeBrusk, is on again. The team is desperate for scoring. Could not have come at a better time.
Hronek was pushing the play. Strong passing. Connecting. The frustration was shooting wide and making some questionable decisions on defense. On balance though, strong game.
DPetey - He's only 20 years old! He has shortened the timeline. Soucy even looks right with him. Wild development.
COL was a frustrated team. Wood is a goof. Some bad blood now between these two clubs.
The choices are to keep Petey and hope he recovers with different wingers next year once his NMC kicks in, keep him and move him to 1LW after getting a real 1c who is strong and can win faceoffs, or trade him before his NMC kicks in
logan5
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Maybe a sign of more consistency at home, as this was 2 games in a row where we played well, and without Hughes.
But trade him for what? We’re not getting a player back of his caliber - at best we get one or two inferior pieces
No team can win a cup without true #1 C and there are only maybe a dozen of those in the nhl right now
I’d rather gamble that he returns to form in a year or two
TruGr1t
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I like that alignment. Other interesting question is whether you stick with Hughes-Hronek once Hughes is back as you actually have the luxury of playing them separately now.
I know Hoglander has been traded a hundred times on paper, but I really hope the Canucks stick with him.
When he's skating and pressuring the puck he's very effective. He's the type of player who you get the sense would explode on another team. He's been great the last two games.
When he's skating and pressuring the puck he's very effective. He's the type of player who you get the sense would explode on another team. He's been great the last two games.
Svencouver
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I'd do:
DeBrusk-Pettersson-Sherwood
O'Connor-Chytil-Boeser
Garland-Suter-Joshua
Hoglander-Blueger-Karlsson
Hughes-Myers
MP-Hronek
DP-Soucy
Demko
Lankinen
for the rest of the season, tbh. Forbort as the 7D, and Willander waiting in the wings. Myers has looked pretty good with Hughes all things considered, and Hronek has really started to settle into a groove carrying his own pairing just as Hughes has come out of the lineup. The order of things seems to finally be shaking out with this group. I also do think that Hoglander-Pettersson-Karlsson should get another look, and we should also try O'Connor with Pettersson, but really, just anything other than leaving EP40 with Boeser. They really just do not play well together.
Then, imagine this lineup if we can swing a Rantanen, Marner, Fiala, or other top 6 option to slot in. All of a sudden, the team is looking pretty fast, skilled, and deep, and we somehow have accrued a top 5 defense in the league, too. With Demko and Lankinen both catching fire lately I wouldn't be surprised to see a St. Louis type run, here. If we get an energized and motivated EP40 back from Four Nations this team has a chance of being legitimately better than last year.
DeBrusk-Pettersson-Sherwood
O'Connor-Chytil-Boeser
Garland-Suter-Joshua
Hoglander-Blueger-Karlsson
Hughes-Myers
MP-Hronek
DP-Soucy
Demko
Lankinen
for the rest of the season, tbh. Forbort as the 7D, and Willander waiting in the wings. Myers has looked pretty good with Hughes all things considered, and Hronek has really started to settle into a groove carrying his own pairing just as Hughes has come out of the lineup. The order of things seems to finally be shaking out with this group. I also do think that Hoglander-Pettersson-Karlsson should get another look, and we should also try O'Connor with Pettersson, but really, just anything other than leaving EP40 with Boeser. They really just do not play well together.
Then, imagine this lineup if we can swing a Rantanen, Marner, Fiala, or other top 6 option to slot in. All of a sudden, the team is looking pretty fast, skilled, and deep, and we somehow have accrued a top 5 defense in the league, too. With Demko and Lankinen both catching fire lately I wouldn't be surprised to see a St. Louis type run, here. If we get an energized and motivated EP40 back from Four Nations this team has a chance of being legitimately better than last year.
The problem is our fanbase, the media, coaches, and management wont wait a year or two for the hope that he will recover. He has until late June to show hes recovered
me2
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Playing him on chytil's wing for few a game would be enlightening.
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ephmrl
5th overall.
They're generating chances from the slot and around the net which is nice to see.
Week or so ago felt that Demko was the main cause for the loss in Dallas. Tonight Demko paid them them back by preventing a loss. Give credit to other players as well, but Demko (and the goal posts) kept them in it throughout the first and second.
Good
Demko - hope this is the player we see through the rest of the season. Had a great game.
Myers - horse again in this game. Showing some true leadership with Hughes out. Got the puck out of trouble on several occasions. Really getting to the puck in his end quickly, allowing him the space to makes good d-zone exits. Important player for his team right now.
M. Pettersson - logging the big minutes and yet a guy that can go unnoticed . Is very efficient and lets the puck do the work. Turns the play around quickly and uses his stick well, at just the right time, to break up plays. Huge help to the defense so far.
DeBrusk - came alive after his goal and was critical to the offense.
Hronek - wasn't perfect and did make some messy passes. But he competed very hard both ways and made some nice up-ice passes.
Others
Boeser - maybe clutching the stick a little tight. Could have had a few goals in this game. Finally put one away which took some pressure off the team.
Chytil - one player willing to take on the defense at the their line. Again displayed some upper level talent in terms of skating and stick-handling. Liked his two way play in this game. Needs to be worked into the PP (which needs to be better). 2 games - 2 points so far
Joshua - looks like he working himself back into the play. Still too much stop and start, but did break up plays in the offensive and neutral zone. Hopefully can begin producing some offense.
EPII - best of all the players brought up this season. More involved in this game than likely any other game since his callup. Big, solid athlete. Playing at around 210 and likely, when done, will be more like 220.
Garland - minutes down and not as dynamic. Probably a little banged up.
Forbert - figure anything you get out of him is a bonus. Times him and Soucy got tied up badly in their end but overall Forbert has been relatively good. He is getting on the play faster and making some good passes coming out of his end.
When you watch the team in game like this just grind out a win, with lots of the players involved and contributing, you wonder if the reliance on Hughes is the best way to go. His absence on the PP is important but if you could play more like a team and not fragment the effort by overplaying certain players maybe the team doesn't have the ups and downs it has had this season.
Good
Demko - hope this is the player we see through the rest of the season. Had a great game.
Myers - horse again in this game. Showing some true leadership with Hughes out. Got the puck out of trouble on several occasions. Really getting to the puck in his end quickly, allowing him the space to makes good d-zone exits. Important player for his team right now.
M. Pettersson - logging the big minutes and yet a guy that can go unnoticed . Is very efficient and lets the puck do the work. Turns the play around quickly and uses his stick well, at just the right time, to break up plays. Huge help to the defense so far.
DeBrusk - came alive after his goal and was critical to the offense.
Hronek - wasn't perfect and did make some messy passes. But he competed very hard both ways and made some nice up-ice passes.
Others
Boeser - maybe clutching the stick a little tight. Could have had a few goals in this game. Finally put one away which took some pressure off the team.
Chytil - one player willing to take on the defense at the their line. Again displayed some upper level talent in terms of skating and stick-handling. Liked his two way play in this game. Needs to be worked into the PP (which needs to be better). 2 games - 2 points so far
Joshua - looks like he working himself back into the play. Still too much stop and start, but did break up plays in the offensive and neutral zone. Hopefully can begin producing some offense.
EPII - best of all the players brought up this season. More involved in this game than likely any other game since his callup. Big, solid athlete. Playing at around 210 and likely, when done, will be more like 220.
Garland - minutes down and not as dynamic. Probably a little banged up.
Forbert - figure anything you get out of him is a bonus. Times him and Soucy got tied up badly in their end but overall Forbert has been relatively good. He is getting on the play faster and making some good passes coming out of his end.
When you watch the team in game like this just grind out a win, with lots of the players involved and contributing, you wonder if the reliance on Hughes is the best way to go. His absence on the PP is important but if you could play more like a team and not fragment the effort by overplaying certain players maybe the team doesn't have the ups and downs it has had this season.
Canucks seem to match up well against the Avs...
Chytil, D Petey and MP continue to impress. Good solid win tonight. One of their more complete wins of the season. D Petey looking like a 10 year vet - just calm, collected and makes the right play. Looks like a first round pick with how he's playing.
But probably the most promising news is Demko's play tonight. Hopefully a sign of things to come
Chytil, D Petey and MP continue to impress. Good solid win tonight. One of their more complete wins of the season. D Petey looking like a 10 year vet - just calm, collected and makes the right play. Looks like a first round pick with how he's playing.
But probably the most promising news is Demko's play tonight. Hopefully a sign of things to come
mriswith
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Teams don't win cups without a legit 1C, and he isn't going to return one in a trade so we're kind of stuck waiting for him to come back. Barring a miracle, trading him for a handful of quarters is capitulating to being in the mix but never a legit contender.
I am most concerned with his physical attributes. I'd only trade him if I thought he was never getting his speed back and he's permanently physically ruined. This isn't entirely out of the question at this point. but despite having a long way to go in these areas still, he is skating faster and shooting harder than he was the first couple months of the season.
The most frustrating thing about the EP situation is that we don't need him to be superstar 40 goal 100 point selke EP. The low end of his career averages, 30 goals ~75 points high end defensive forward would be more than enough both last year and this year and we're not getting it.
sandwichbird2023
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I agree that it is best to gamble that he can return form, there are simply no other ways to get a 1C.
But if we lose this gamble and he doesn't recover in a year or 2, not only did we "lost" our 1C, we likely lost our MVP/captain too. Its a franchise-altering gamble, but unfortunately we don't have any better options.
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