GDT: GM#24 LA Kings vs Vancouver Canucks @7:00pm 11/27/18

[TwzKing]

No, time to bench brown. We need 2015-2016 brown.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Matt Luff has genuinely suprised me with how fast he's fit in. I say this in a positive way, obviously, but new era Dwight King--can skate well enough to hang in the league, big body, good on the wall, doesn't excel at any one thing in particular, just big, smart and effective--plus a hell of a shot.

 

[kovacro]

Matt Luff has genuinely suprised me with how fast he's fit in. I say this in a positive way, obviously, but new era Dwight King--can skate well enough to hang in the league, big body, good on the wall, doesn't excel at any one thing in particular, just big, smart and effective--plus a hell of a shot.

Kid can shoot it, no doubt. That's the first thing I noticed during his time here in Hamilton. His skating was okay but it looks as if he's improving on that, granted I'm only seeing it through the television.

No reason as to why he cannot carve out an NHL role with the Kings. Good get for them and cost nothing.

 

[Fishhead]

I was pretty high on Luff and thought he had a shot at the NHL, but he’s settling in much faster than I ever thought. I figured 1-2 years in the A before we saw him.

It’s early on these guys, but there’s definitely some promise there. Luff looks good, pretty impressed with what Rempal has shown too. Wagner needs to take a step, but shows flashes. Kempe is slumping, but has shown what he can do. Iafallo has great utility and can play several roles. Toss in a healthy Lewis and Clifford and you have a group with solid speed and some skill that can move up and down the lineup instead of the heavy, plodding types we’ve gotten used to. Toss in a couple higher skilled guys like Vilardi and Kupari and things look a lot better down the road.

Losing gets old fast and is painful, but if the team is going to bomb a year, this is the year to do it. A top 3 pick would accelerate a revamping of the roster.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

I understood moving the C from Brown to Kopitar but I thought Brown should at least kept an A.
I am a big sutter fan and a big brown fan and even I know that once the team locked Sutter out of the room he needed to be canned. Instead he lasted one more year

Obviously I have absolutely no way of knowing for sure but from what I see, Brown is a lead by example type of guy. That works when you have guys like Willie Mitchell, Matt Greene, Justin Williams, Mike Richards, Robyn Regehr, and Jarret Stoll around. Those guys are the vocal leaders. Once those guys all left the leadership went to shit. Carter is a lead by example type of guy. Kopitar is a...the team's best forward. Quick seems too quiet to lead. Doughty is a child.

You can have a team full of hard workers but when you need someone to speak up, the Kings didn't/don't have anyone. Brown should've at worst been an "A" but the Kings never filled that leadership void those other guys left. When you have a hardass coach in Sutter, you need someone to keep the mood light. When you have a robot coach in Stevens, you need someone to fire up the team.

 

[YP44]

Obviously I have absolutely no way of knowing for sure but from what I see, Brown is a lead by example type of guy. That works when you have guys like Willie Mitchell, Matt Greene, Justin Williams, Mike Richards, Robyn Regehr, and Jarret Stoll around. Those guys are the vocal leaders. Once those guys all left the leadership went to ****. Carter is a lead by example type of guy. Kopitar is a...the team's best forward. Quick seems too quiet to lead. Doughty is a child.

You can have a team full of hard workers but when you need someone to speak up, the Kings didn't/don't have anyone. Brown should've at worst been an "A" but the Kings never filled that leadership void those other guys left. When you have a hardass coach in Sutter, you need someone to keep the mood light. When you have a robot coach in Stevens, you need someone to fire up the team.

I also feel the same about the bolded. But remember at the time Brown was getting no minutes and at one point almost healthy scratched. Hard to league by example from the bench

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I was pretty high on Luff and thought he had a shot at the NHL, but he’s settling in much faster than I ever thought. I figured 1-2 years in the A before we saw him.

It’s early on these guys, but there’s definitely some promise there. Luff looks good, pretty impressed with what Rempal has shown too. Wagner needs to take a step, but shows flashes. Kempe is slumping, but has shown what he can do. Iafallo has great utility and can play several roles. Toss in a healthy Lewis and Clifford and you have a group with solid speed and some skill that can move up and down the lineup instead of the heavy, plodding types we’ve gotten used to. Toss in a couple higher skilled guys like Vilardi and Kupari and things look a lot better down the road.

Losing gets old fast and is painful, but if the team is going to bomb a year, this is the year to do it. A top 3 pick would accelerate a revamping of the roster.

Really like Luff, think he will be a solid 3rd liner, possibly 2nd if you get him with the right guys, top 9 for sure,

Rempal, watched all 4:45 last night and can't get a feel for him, liked him on his first call up, he needs to work on certain things, think it would be a mistake to deal him, but he needs seasoning

 

[Reclamation Project]

The only reason Brown is still on this team is because no team would take on his contract nor did VGK want him in the expansion draft. If taking the C off his chest helped light a fire under his ass and get back to playing the way that was expected, then awesome! You'd prefer him still be captain and having 11-goal seasons? GTFO

I don’t think removing him as captain was the catalyst. He had many seasons where he played at a top level while being captain, most notably being the captain of two Stanley Cup runs. Kopitar is captain this season and is dreadful.

I don’t think very highly of fabric letters. I think they’re incredibly overrated. Two of the best leaders this team has ever had weren’t captains - Justin Williams and Willie Mitchell. Good leaders go out there and lead, they don’t need a piece of fabric to make it happen.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Really like Luff, think he will be a solid 3rd liner, possibly 2nd if you get him with the right guys, top 9 for sure,

Rempal, watched all 4:45 last night and can't get a feel for him, liked him on his first call up, he needs to work on certain things, think it would be a mistake to deal him, but he needs seasoning

That's kind of been my read all along on him haha. What's his ID? I DID like his power move last night to draw a call, much more decisive than before. He's got some tools though in his speed and elusiveness. Kind of a Scott Parse feel.

 

[kingsfan28]

Sad, but true. Not sure why Sutter had a bug up his ass regarding Brown.

I will never understand it. To do what he did , knocking his confidence out of him game after game is just unacceptable to me in my book. And this is the captain of the team he was doing it to, not a bottom 6 guy. Then the fact that Sutter would only re-sign if the C was given to Kopitar, and Lombardi, who picked him as captain went along with it made it only worse.

 

[mrkolice]

kovy's been upgraded into the 3rd line, with kempe & luff:



his toi should go up now.


clap your hands.

 

[mrkolice]

kovy's been upgraded into the 3rd line, with kempe & luff:



his toi should go up now.


clap your hands.

 

[Reaper45]

Tank commander Thompson ready for PP duty.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Tank commander Thompson ready for PP duty.

LOL who else would you put in front of the net to replace Pearson? Clifford possibly, Rempal would get absolutely murdered guess you could put Phaneuf in front....and use Muzzin on the point, that would seriously confuse people here though....

 

[Reaper45]

LOL who else would you put in front of the net to replace Pearson? Clifford possibly, Rempal would get absolutely murdered guess you could put Phaneuf in front....and use Muzzin on the point, that would seriously confuse people here though....

Anyone would be better than the guy with 0 PP goals in his career.

 

[mrkolice]

these are very tricky combos. desjardins is gambling here with strange margins. philosophically i like it, but i'm temped to bet against the kings again, many thing can go wrong here.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Anyone would be better than the guy with 0 PP goals in his career.

Well damn there goes Rempal, Vilardi, JAD, Luff, Wagner, Kumpari....etc,

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Well damn there goes Rempal, Vilardi, JAD, Luff, Wagner, Kumpari....etc,

All those guys combined don't even have a full season worth of games.

Nate Thompson--643 NHL games since 2006, zero power play goals.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

All those guys combined don't even have a full season worth of games.

Nate Thompson--643 NHL games since 2006, zero power play goals.

Your right, but like I said, WHO would you put in there instead? That is going to have the net presence and take the punishment? Rempal? Luff?

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

Your right, but like I said, WHO would you put in there instead? That is going to have the net presence and take the punishment? Rempal? Luff?

What punishment? This is the new NHL where you're not allowed to hit the guy in front of the net nor do defensemen like Greene and Regehr exist anymore.

Although by punishment you could mean Doughty and Muzzin hitting their own teammates lol

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Your right, but like I said, WHO would you put in there instead? That is going to have the net presence and take the punishment? Rempal? Luff?

I'm scared shitless of that unit frankly with Toffoli and Phaneuf on the point haha and with Kempe out there because he can be risky (which I appreciate, but not with that group on the ice). Thompson in front of the net isn't a bad idea per se but I don't like overinflating his minutes. Luff would be a good choice imo, build that skillset, and he's potted some goals lately.

 

[SlimCharles]

What punishment? This is the new NHL where you're not allowed to hit the guy in front of the net nor do defensemen like Greene and Regehr exist anymore.

That's exactly what I was going to say. Smaller guys can't get abused like they used to be.

 

[damacles1156]

Your right, but like I said, WHO would you put in there instead? That is going to have the net presence and take the punishment? Rempal? Luff?

This is the new NHL, there is no punishment in front of the net anymore. It's one big reason Dustin Brown has done a 180 in his production.

Everyone is trying to stick check in front of the net now, cause cross checks are now called penalties.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Watch in front if you think they call the rabbit cross checks

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Watch in front if you think they call the rabbit cross checks

The problem is the stronger guys don't go down so they don't get calls, while the little guys and the rats either dive or legitimately get wrecked, and those do draw calls.

We've always been punished for being stronger on the puck--how impossible was it for Kopitar to draw penalties with three dudes waterskiing since he never went down?--but even more so now.