Glove Pass Rule

[mcleex]

The glove pass rule needs to change to something like the kicking the puck rule

If the puck hits your skate and goes in, or gets redirected then it's still good. If it's a distinct kicking motion it's no good

The same thing should apply for glove passes. If it's a distinct glove pass then call it, but if the puck hits off your glove then why is it automatically blown down????

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[Dreakmur]

The glove pass rule needs to change to something like the kicking the puck rule

If the puck hits your skate and goes in, or gets redirected then it's still good. If it's a distinct kicking motion it's no good

The same thing should apply for glove passes. If it's a distinct glove pass then call it, but if the puck hits off your glove then why is it automatically blown down????

Until Boston scores on us with a glove pass, then we gotta call that!

 

[LastOne2100]

Honestly, the rule is fine. The right answer is to just remove the video reviews, as they provide almost nothing positive. Sure, 1/1000 times the review fixes something obvious, but it's not worth it as most reviews just end up being over the tiniest hair splitting that makes no difference to the actual play, and completely ruin the flow and excitement of the game.

Imagine a league that takes something exciting like a game tying goal in the last couple minutes and turns it into a 5 minute stand around fest to decide the ending of the game.

 

[BertCorbeau]

The glove pass rule needs to change to something like the kicking the puck rule

If the puck hits your skate and goes in, or gets redirected then it's still good. If it's a distinct kicking motion it's no good

The same thing should apply for glove passes. If it's a distinct glove pass then call it, but if the puck hits off your glove then why is it automatically blown down????

it is in the rule IIRC that defections don't count as a hand pass.

 

[robertmac43]

The review process is what got me todaY. Without replay you cannot tell me that was a directed pass, and even with replay it's brutal lol

 

[HellasLEAF]

I'm sorry that was slowed down to super slo-mo, replayed a dozen time and I still can't decipher how Rielly glove passed the puck to his teammate. This to retract a late game goal btw.

 

[Stephen]

I don’t care that we lost because of a chintzy call or not. But it’s also not every day that the “situation room” calls down to correct a missed call on the ice. That feels like someone’s intervening.

 

[ErnieLeafs]

I don’t see how they call that.
1. Rielly is clearly about to glove it down to his own stick.
2. The intent to direct it to a teammate isn’t present.
3. The defender’s stick arrives before the puck, and impedes Rielly’s willful actions.

It’s a stray puck deflection off the glove, and a bull*^%# call.

 

[BayStBullies]

Until Boston scores on us with a glove pass, then we gotta call that!

But we know how it would be called the opposite.

 

[Dreakmur]

But we know how it would be called the opposite.

So whine about it if they get it wrong then, not when they got it correct now.

 

[Mr_Fun]

Why are they calling this by the absolute letter of the law and not other infractions, then? Technically, pushing and shoving is interference and has an influence on EVERY goal so that should be called too so that we have consistency, right? *rolls eyes*

This is not "the spirit" of rule. The glove hand pass rule was not implemented to protect against something like this happening.

 

[Wiseguys]

But you're allowed to pass the puck by a kicking motion to a player who scores, a goalie can purposely redirect the puck with his blocking pad which may result in a goal. What's the difference?

 

[NastyKnies]

I did not even know they could review hand passes wtf

 

[The Iceman]

The gloved puck clearly goes off the Arizona's players skate.

Wouldn't that negate the glove puck?
Just like a delayed high sticking the puck, if the other team touches it game on.

 

[GlassesManbad]

NHL tries WAY too hard to take away goals. This has been happening for years. Keller's stick is in Rielly's glove when he tries to grab it then it bounces off a skate. How the hell is that a hand pass?

 

[ACC1224]

Show up for 60 minutes and theses rules will have no impact.

 

[wingman75]

This rule has been the same forever. I thought it was clearly a hand pass, not sure what all the fuss is about.

And, they could only review it because the play ended up in a goal I believe.

We didn't lose because of that call, we lost because these arrogant pricks didn't show up for an easy win. They did not deserve to salvage anything out of this game.

 

[Brown Dog]

The gloved puck clearly goes off the Arizona's players skate.

Wouldn't that negate the glove puck?
Just like a delayed high sticking the puck, if the other team touches it game on.

That would make sense, but apparently the rule says that possession has to change and the deflection off the Arizona player's skate doesn't count as a change of possession. So it's different than with a high stick (Why is it different for a hand pass you ask? Nobody knows).

Never mind that Rielly never really had possession when the puck glanced off his glove (unless it actually touched the Arizona player's stick). Or that that deflection creating a loose puck that Marner picked up in Rielly's feet wasn't really a hand pass. Or that it's dumb that a play at the blue line 5 seconds before a goal can be reviewed to disallow that goal.

 

[ToneDog]

The gloved puck clearly goes off the Arizona's players skate.

Wouldn't that negate the glove puck?
Just like a delayed high sticking the puck, if the other team touches it game on.

It's like a delayed penalty, off the skate is not enough to stop play.

 

[Brown Dog]

IMHO, there should be no reviews for plays that do not directly result is a goal. Hand passes, offsides, puck over glass, etc. If the on-ice officials miss these things (as they occasionally will), that's how it goes.

I can live with reviews to determine if a goal is legitimate (kicking motion? puck crossing the line? high stick?). But going back in time to say the play should have been stopped earlier is a slippery slope to me. What if an icing call is made by mistake and the team scores off the draw? Should that be reviewed because the faceoff never should have happened? At some point you have to draw the line and accept that there will always be an element of human error in the the officiating.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

@wingman75

Here's where I'm confused...

Here is the rule the situation room cited: "A player may bat a puck in the air with an open hand unless in the opinion of the on-ice officials he has directed the puck to a teammate... blah blah blah".

Ok. The on-ice officials didn't call anything. In fact, the ref states CLEAR AS DAY (maybe as a semi-criticism of the ruling?) that it was the situation room that determined there was a glove pass.

So what the f***. They're just literally ignoring the rule book?

 

[Larcos_Unal]

If you watched last night's game are woke up angry at the glove pass rule you are missing out on the big picture.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

If you watched last night's game are woke up angry at the glove pass rule you are missing out on the big picture.

Insert "why not both" meme...

 

[egd27]

@wingman75

Here's where I'm confused...

Here is the rule the situation room cited: "A player may bat a puck in the air with an open hand unless in the opinion of the on-ice officials he has directed the puck to a teammate... blah blah blah".

Ok. The on-ice officials didn't call anything. In fact, the ref states CLEAR AS DAY (maybe as a semi-criticism of the ruling?) that it was the situation room that determined there was a glove pass.

So what the f***. They're just literally ignoring the rule book?

That was my thoughts on it as well. Guess the opinions of the on ice officials don't matter much now.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

That was definitely a glove pass. That gets called all the time in the neutral and offensive zones.

The grey area is the change of possession which would negate it.