Friedman: Gibson is interested in Carolina or Edmonton

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And what I’m saying is that not all goalies are built the same.

I don’t think John Gibson has been in that class for quite some time
He certainly is this year. Not sure how anyone could honestly argue he isn't after taking a look a his stats this year.

And if the Oilers are trying to win the Cup this year isn't that all that really matters? Gibson is the best available goalie that gives the Oilers their best chance at winning the Cup in 2025. How can you argue otherwise?

Now all that has to be determined is the payment. How much is a legitimate shot at winning the cup this year worth to you? Oilers with Gibson in 2025 are better than they are without him. One could even say they would be the leading cup contender.

Bowman is a fool if he doesn't do what it takes to get a deal done... and it sounds like Verbeek wants Stu Skinner + a top prospect to make it happen.
 
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How to solve it with that contract?
Skinner has to go the other way, thats a certain. But Gibson holds s spicey pricetag. Doubt Kane goes the other way round.
 
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How to solve it with that contract?
Skinner has to go the other way, thats a certain. But Gibson holds s spicey pricetag. Doubt Kane goes the other way round.
Well Anaheim prob doesn’t mind taking back a goalie stop gap, we don’t have anyone in the system ready to jump up to big club so skinner is fine. That solves our back up goalie situation for next year too.

Then doesn’t just retention get it across the line?
 
It feels like any duck fan probably would hate the return at this point.

Based on any info we have, I'd say it's more likely we continue to just not have a trade. There is absolutely nothing holding the Ducks hand to the fire here, it's weird to assume they'll suddenly get desperate and hand him over for a crap return
 
And what I’m saying is that not all goalies are built the same.

I don’t think John Gibson has been in that class for quite some time.



Yeah thanks,

Again, I don’t think John Gibson has aged like fine wine.



Been here longer than you pal. My post has nothing to do with skinner. I don’t think he’s the answer, just like I don’t think Gibson is either.
What i don't like about Gibson is the term. A team like the Oilers should be doing what Colorado did. If you don't have a clear #1 you should be trying things until you do.

Gibson has good stats on a bad team and he would like to come here. So, that checks some boxes. But, there are red flags with him too. I wish he were impending UFA so we could try him out first. Even with retention, that's a lot of cap commitment and we aren't doing our jobs if we aren't planning for the possible negative outcome.

If there is a plan to deal with that outcome then I'm all for trying Gibson. I don't see having the full cap hit as fitting that plan
 
It feels like any duck fan probably would hate the return at this point.
I’m fine with most of the returns that have been discussed.

I think we lose a Gibson trade , in most scenarios…. But I think the team owes it to Gibson to trade him to a contender

He’s played himself into a posistion where we can get value on him…. Which is more than I could say last year
 
According to David Pagnotta, Verbeek's asking price is Stu Skinner and a top level prospect.
I can only assume the prospect is Matt Savoie or Sam O'Reilly. So I guess thst kind of translates out to Skinner + a 1st. I don't know about the 50% retention. Anaheim can certainly afford it.

The only way the oilers should do that is if strome comes with Gibson and is retained as well.
 
What i don't like about Gibson is the term. A team like the Oilers should be doing what Colorado did. If you don't have a clear #1 you should be trying things until you do.

Gibson has good stats on a bad team and he would like to come here. So, that checks some boxes. But, there are red flags with him too. I wish he were impending UFA so we could try him out first. Even with retention, that's a lot of cap commitment and we aren't doing our jobs if we aren't planning for the possible negative outcome.

If there is a plan to deal with that outcome then I'm all for trying Gibson. I don't see having the full cap hit as fitting that plan

It's only two years remaining. With the cap rising, his 6.4M (before retention) for the next two years would be roughly equivalent to taking on a 5M player this year. It really doesn't seem like a huge gamble to me
 
The only way the oilers should do that is if strome comes with Gibson and is retained as well.
So now we've gone from $3.2m in retention to $5.7m in retention, assuming the Ducks retain the maximum 50% on both players. The Oilers take on $3.1m in net salary ($5.7m - $2.6m).
Good luck with trying to talk the Ducks into paying two more players $5.7m to play elsewhere for the next two years. Also lets not forget about the $2.5m they are paying Cam Fowler to play in StL this year snd next.
Obviously in your world the Ducks are desperate to get rid of Gibson.
 

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