GDT: Germany vs Canada, Group A; Dec 28, 2024, 7:30 Eastern

Crosby2010

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The game tonight was troubling. Look, George is great in net. Let's hope Cameron doesn't try to think he's a genius and pull him out. George belongs in net for the rest of the tournament. But we played Finland, Latvia and Germany. That's nice that only two goals have been scored, but we haven't played the USA, Sweden and Russia isn't even here, so..................

The US will be the best test. I still am wondering how you crawl back after a loss like Latvia though. And they didn't look inspired until the 3rd period today. A late goal to make it 2-0 and then an empty netter. 3-0. Against Germany. Meh. They can't score. We can point to the goals against vs. these weak teams and be happy about it, but they've scored 9 goals in three games and we've yet to play the top 2-3 teams yet. They just don't look organized. That PP is woeful. Shake it up Cameron. It is a shame we are stuck with him and the roster that left a lot of talent at home but at least move things around. McKenna should be on the top line and the top PP unit. They have to shake things up before the U.S. game. That's a critical game and losing that could bounce us down to 3rd place which is a harder QF.
 

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The game tonight was troubling. Look, George is great in net. Let's hope Cameron doesn't try to think he's a genius and pull him out. George belongs in net for the rest of the tournament. But we played Finland, Latvia and Germany. That's nice that only two goals have been scored, but we haven't played the USA, Sweden and Russia isn't even here, so..................

The US will be the best test. I still am wondering how you crawl back after a loss like Latvia though. And they didn't look inspired until the 3rd period today. A late goal to make it 2-0 and then an empty netter. 3-0. Against Germany. Meh. They can't score. We can point to the goals against vs. these weak teams and be happy about it, but they've scored 9 goals in three games and we've yet to play the top 2-3 teams yet. They just don't look organized. That PP is woeful. Shake it up Cameron. It is a shame we are stuck with him and the roster that left a lot of talent at home but at least move things around. McKenna should be on the top line and the top PP unit. They have to shake things up before the U.S. game. That's a critical game and losing that could bounce us down to 3rd place which is a harder QF.
USA has played the same teams and has let in 9 goals. Got the same amount of PP goals as Canada too. Other division has Kazakhstan and a weak Switzerland squad and every team in that division is bad on the PK. Sweden has like a 61% PK so idk why we should really be afraid of these teams. It's not like Canada is being dominated or outplayed. They lead the tournament in shots on goal and are 3rd worse in shooting percentage so I'm not too worried about the offence against these better offensive teams you listed. These teams that aren't so good just stack the slot and aren't looking for offence when the USAs and Swedens are gonna be looking for offence which will open up much more.
 

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The game tonight was troubling. Look, George is great in net. Let's hope Cameron doesn't try to think he's a genius and pull him out. George belongs in net for the rest of the tournament. But we played Finland, Latvia and Germany. That's nice that only two goals have been scored, but we haven't played the USA, Sweden and Russia isn't even here, so..................

The US will be the best test. I still am wondering how you crawl back after a loss like Latvia though. And they didn't look inspired until the 3rd period today. A late goal to make it 2-0 and then an empty netter. 3-0. Against Germany. Meh. They can't score. We can point to the goals against vs. these weak teams and be happy about it, but they've scored 9 goals in three games and we've yet to play the top 2-3 teams yet. They just don't look organized. That PP is woeful. Shake it up Cameron. It is a shame we are stuck with him and the roster that left a lot of talent at home but at least move things around. McKenna should be on the top line and the top PP unit. They have to shake things up before the U.S. game. That's a critical game and losing that could bounce us down to 3rd place which is a harder QF.

You do know USA just lost to Finland who scored 4 goals on them? The same team you're discrediting as only Finland when Canada beat them 4-0.

Canada is playing great defensively, people are too caught up on goals. They've barely given up any good scoring chance and 0 goals 5 on 5 all tournament.
 

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USA has played the same teams and has let in 9 goals. Got the same amount of PP goals as Canada too. Other division has Kazakhstan and a weak Switzerland squad and every team in that division is bad on the PK. Sweden has like a 61% PK so idk why we should really be afraid of these teams. It's not like Canada is being dominated or outplayed. They lead the tournament in shots on goal and are 3rd worse in shooting percentage so I'm not too worried about the offence against these better offensive teams you listed. These teams that aren't so good just stack the slot and aren't looking for offence when the USAs and Swedens are gonna be looking for offence which will open up much more.
You do know the US just lost to Finland who scored 4 goals on them? The same team you're discrediting as only Finland when Canada beat them 4-0

I've never been one of those "Okay, so the USA beat Germany 10-4 so that's better/worse than our 3-0" type of fans. I look at it individually. We aren't scoring. Maybe it changes from here on, I don't know. But 9 goals in 3 games is concerning to me. Despite some questionable roster selections this team still shouldn't have trouble scoring goals. Nor have a weak power play. It has both so far. If we win at this rate it will be through defense and goaltending, not offense. In a short tournament you can't make mistakes. They don't have anymore time to bond.
 
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I've never been one of those "Okay, so the USA beat Germany 10-4 so that's better/worse than our 3-0" type of fans. I look at it individually. We aren't scoring. Maybe it changes from here on, I don't know. But 9 goals in 3 games is concerning to me. Despite some questionable roster selections this team still shouldn't have trouble scoring goals. Nor have a weak power play. It has both so far. If we win at this rate it will be through defense and goaltending, not offense. In a short tournament you can't make mistakes. They don't have anymore time to bond.

We aren't scoring, but we're not giving up goals. We're prioritizing defence over offence instead of run and gun.

The Canada team that won gold at the Olympics in 2014 did the same thing, everyone kept complaining they weren't scoring because they were winning low scoring games, including beating Latvia 2-1 in an elimination game instead of 10-0.
 

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We aren't scoring, but we're not giving up goals. We're prioritizing defence over offence instead of run and gun.

The Canada team that won gold at the Olympics in 2014 did the same thing, everyone kept complaining they weren't scoring because they were winning low scoring games, including beating Latvia 2-1 in an elimination game instead of 10-0.

That team never lost and never was trailing in a game for even a second. Their goals for/against was 17-3. The big ice was part of the reason why there was low scoring. We had plenty of chances that never went in (I don't know how many times Crosby set up Kunitz where he shot wide). It's a risk playing that sort of game and trying to win it that way. Hard to get kids to have that kind of discipline. Let's just say I find it concerning we aren't scoring. We played Germany and Latvia. I would sincerely hope we haven't allowed many goals as well. My concern is why we weren't building up comfortable leads. It cost us against Latvia. Almost did against Germany. Probably won't be so lucky if we do this vs. US
 
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That team never lost and never was trailing in a game for even a second. Their goals for/against was 17-3. The big ice was part of the reason why there was low scoring. We had plenty of chances that never went in (I don't know how many times Crosby set up Kunitz where he shot wide). It's a risk playing that sort of game and trying to win it that way. Hard to get kids to have that kind of discipline. Let's just say I find it concerning we aren't scoring. We played Germany and Latvia. I would sincerely hope we haven't allowed many goals as well. My concern is why we weren't building up comfortable leads. It cost us against Latvia. Almost did against Germany. Probably won't be so lucky if we do this vs. US

This team lost in a shootout on a back to back. You're acting like they lost 7-0.

Fun fact, this team hasn't been trailing all tournament either. Not even for a second.
 

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This team lost in a shootout on a back to back. You're acting like they lost 7-0.

Fun fact, this team hasn't been trailing all tournament either. Not even for a second.

Let's not crown them yet. They lost to Latvia. Latvia with 1.8 million people. And we've played three games. Can we start thumping our chests when we beat an elite team first? Because right now we lost to a team that could be relegated.
 
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Let's not crown them yet. They lost to Latvia. Latvia with 1.8 million people. And we've played three games. Can we start thumping our chests when we beat an elite team first? Because right now we lost to a team that could be relegated.

They haven't won yet, they haven't lost yet.

You keep bringing up Latvia for some reason as if they got eliminated. They've already guaranteed a spot at the quarters, let it go.
 
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I've never been one of those "Okay, so the USA beat Germany 10-4 so that's better/worse than our 3-0" type of fans. I look at it individually. We aren't scoring. Maybe it changes from here on, I don't know. But 9 goals in 3 games is concerning to me. Despite some questionable roster selections this team still shouldn't have trouble scoring goals. Nor have a weak power play. It has both so far. If we win at this rate it will be through defense and goaltending, not offense. In a short tournament you can't make mistakes. They don't have anymore time to bond.
Yeah but the PP argument doesn't make much sense since USA is considered very good and has the same amount of PP goals. They have 2 less PPs but that's not a huge difference. Finland and Latvia both lead the tournament in PK%. I believe Finland was at 100% and Latvia just over 90%. We can call these teams weak but Switzerland and Sweden are the only 2 teams you could say in this tournament that have good PPs. Are their PPs actually good or is that entire division just bad on the PK? Kazakhstan has the best PK% in that division at 85%. It's a weird tournament and Kazakhstan is the only team really you could say has been very bad. Every other team seems to be doing alright at 5v5. The highest scoring teams in the tournament got the pleasure of playing Kazakhstan who has given up 22 goals in 2 games.
 

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The level of homerism, just lmao. Guy has 28 points in 20 games and is on pace for 76 points. Him being the focal point of this team is why the team is the definition of mediocre.
He is not the focal point of the team. He is one of many excellent players on the team.
 

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They haven't won yet, they haven't lost yet.

You keep bringing up Latvia for some reason as if they got eliminated. They've already guaranteed a spot at the quarters, let it go.

They haven't shown they are that much different of a team from 48 hrs earlier. They come out flying and beat the Germans 8-0 and you can maybe chalk up the Latvia fiasco as some sort of Miracle on Ice fluke. But this team still has some concerning things about them not addressed yet.
 
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They haven't shown they are that much different of a team from 48 hrs earlier. They come out flying and beat the Germans 8-0 and you can maybe chalk up the Latvia fiasco as some sort of Miracle on Ice fluke. But this team still has some concerning things about them not addressed yet.

It doesn't matter though, does it? Even if they won 20-0 it means nothing.

You don't carry momentum game to game, positive or negative.
 

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He was suspended last season for spitting on (or at) a Kingston player. That’s not great, and probably symptomatic of some character issues. Also lot of rumblings around the OHL that he’s an asshole. More charitably, he carries himself with a very cocky attitude (but backs it up with his play).

But you know what? Lots of these kids are assholes.

Spitting on an opponent but refusing to drop his gloves to fight an opponent is the epitome of a cowardly player. Almost as bad as cross checking an opponent in the face but refusing to drop his gloves. Not to mention his penchant for incessant diving to try and draw penalties.

That’s his on-ice demeanour, which wouldn’t be so bad if his off ice demeanour was different. I’ve watched Parekh refuse to sign autographs for kids after OHL games when other players around him are more than happy to sign for kids. In comparison, a guy like Cal Ritchie signs autographs for over an hour for kids lined up waiting for him.

But forget about his “demeanour” issues - - Parekh is not a very good defenseman. He’s physically soft and you’ll hardly ever see him throw a hit. Parekh is also weak defensively and gets caught out of position all the time. Realistically, his best chance at making the NHL is as a winger because he’ll never cut it as a pro level defenceman.

It was a catastrophic mistake by Calgary to
draft Parekh when Sam Dickinson was available. Dickinson is just as good of a skater as Parekh - - if not better - - and he’s bigger, tougher, more physical and light years better defensively than Parekh could ever dream of being. The ONLY thing Parekh had on Dickinson last year was his hollow offensive stats but this year Dickinson’s offensive game has really taken off.

ZERO surprise that Divkinson is playing for Team Canada while Parekh is at home watching.
 

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He was suspended last season for spitting on (or at) a Kingston player. That’s not great, and probably symptomatic of some character issues. Also lot of rumblings around the OHL that he’s an asshole. More charitably, he carries himself with a very cocky attitude (but backs it up with his play).

But you know what? Lots of these kids are assholes.
Dickinson isn’t far behind from what I have heard
 

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It doesn't matter though, does it? Even if they won 20-0 it means nothing.

You don't carry momentum game to game, positive or negative.

Could be mentally draining to lose to Latvia. Could wreck their confidence. You never know, we aren't in the dressing room. Cameron is NOT the type of coach I would ever trust to swing momentum the right way anyways. If they win it is in spite of him.
 
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They used to give out watches. Now I gotta carry around this hunk of wood.
In Malmo they gave out magazines that looked like they were put out by the Malmo Board of Trade. I’d prefer that “hunk of wood” any day.
 
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Canada wins and the wins the group.

Canada loses in OT and they get 2nd.

Canada loses in regulation and its likely 3rd assuming a Finland win vs. Latvia.

Is that right?
 

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I don't know but I'm not completely pissed off by a guy who is carrying a chip on his shoulder, even if it's not the best way to show it.

Michael Jordan is still pissed off to this day at being cut when he was a youngster and that bitterness helped propel him to superstardom and a whole lot of trophies. Point being, it's not always a bad thing for an athlete to have questionable character.
Yeah, and where did it get this Jordan guy? Had zero on ice game, and on top of that, couldn't hit a fastball. Maybe, if he had a decent character, he could've amounted to something.
 

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