German Football 2024/2025

[gary69]

Bayern will get away with it in a lot of matches like today, but if Kompany can't convince Kimmich to play RB for the big matches at least, I'm not sure they'll fix their problems from last season.

Yeah, it's weird how Kimmich manages to convince the coaches to play him in midifield, while the team works much better when he is on the flank. Hopefully Kompany learned the lesson quickly, after Kimmich moved there when Boye was taken off.

Thomas Muller has now played most matches in Bayern shirt, passing legendary keeper Sepp Meier today.

Interestly, Muller made his debut against HSV, when Kompany played his last match for them before moving to Man City.

 

[cgf]

Left after the Bayern game but saw Wanner scored on his debut for Heidenheim. Kid will probably leave us like Samardzic & Dardai, but he’s such a talent.

Yeah, it's weird how Kimmich manages to convince the coaches to play him in midifield, while the team works much better when he is on the flank. Hopefully Kompany learned the lesson quickly, after Kimmich moved there when Boye was taken off.

Thomas Muller has now played most matches in Bayern shirt, passing legendary keeper Sepp Meier today.

Interestly, Muller made his debut against HSV, when Kompany played his last match for them before moving to Man City.

I kinda get it. Kimmich isn’t super fast and he’d be great in the Kroos role next to a holder who can shield a defense on their own…but that’s not LeGo who likes to charge forward or Pavlovic who runs about as well as current Hummels.

 

[cgf]

Jordan not scoring that 2-0 was almost impressive, but 1-0 is probably fair. We were clearly better and they were scrambling, but 2-0 may have flattered us a bit.

Like Rothe & Haberer as giant wingbacks, Hollerbach & Vertessen are doing things and our defense has them in check so far. But I'd like to see us play:

Hollerbach - Vertessen
Rothe - Schäfer - Benes - Juranovic
Khedira
Liete - Vogt - Doekhi
Rönnow​

 

[cgf]

Good guys at the top of the table again

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Dreadful match. Neither team looks very good.

 

[cgf]

Dreadful match. Neither team looks very good.

It definitely had BuLi2 energy but there was some excitement to it even if the football wasn't very skilled...I've certainly seen more boring top division matches before...

They came out with great energy and finished the match putting us under some real pressure, while in between those periods we were able to generate some good chances.

But Pauli's defense isn't good enough for this level and they lack the skill up front to succeed playing a more expansive game. I want them to stay up, but unless they start scoring a lot or they sort their defense out, it's tough to see that happening.

 

[luiginb]

Beier absolutely annihilated by Werder's defense in that first half. He looked like a kid among men

 

[cgf]

Beier absolutely annihilated by Werder's defense in that first half. He looked like a kid among men

I dunno how much to attribute that to beier and how much is just Dortmund looking poorly organized on both sides of the ball. Their possession structure is struggling with Werder’s press and their defense is playing with fire far too often.

 

[cgf]

Schlotterbeck playing LB in this shape has been interesting. But I feel like they should just go full back 3 and play Adeyemi / Bynoe Gittens as wingbacks…with Groß & sabitzer as pseudo inverted FBs…if they want 3 CBs and 3 midfielders out there.

Beier
Adeyemi - Brandt - Bynoe Gittens
Groß - Can - Sabitzer
Nico - Anton - Süle​

 

[cgf]

God damn Adeyemi. First touch of the ball and a great run + shot

 

[cgf]

Schlotterbeck is such a threat on set pieces, Dortmund almost open the scoring on a nice set piece delivery from Groß that Beier couldn’t get to the rebound of

 

[cgf]

I’d swap Sabitzer or Groß for Malen and go 4231 with Brandt at the 10

 

[cgf]

Clear second yellow for Schlotterbeck puts Werder up a man with ~20 min left

 

[Jack Straw]

Boniface bicycle kick catches RB player in the head.

 

[norrisnick]

Boniface bicycle kick catches RB player in the head.

That was flush

 

[cgf]

nifty finish from Frimpong after Klostermann misplays a long ball from Tah

 

[Jack Straw]

Frimpong scores, in the process disturbing a pigeon that was hanging out in the goal.

The pigeon apparently likes that part of the pitch. Back in the goal now.

 

[cgf]

What a well worked 2-0 after Lukeba fails to break it up.

 

[JoVel]

Schlotterbeck playing LB in this shape has been interesting. But I feel like they should just go full back 3 and play Adeyemi / Bynoe Gittens as wingbacks…with Groß & sabitzer as pseudo inverted FBs…if they want 3 CBs and 3 midfielders out there.

Beier
Adeyemi - Brandt - Bynoe Gittens
Groß - Can - Sabitzer
Nico - Anton - Süle​

I'm not a fan because I don't think Schlotterbeck has been great on the left, and this team doesn't have the depth to keep giving those three full minutes. I think eventually they are bound to trial a midfield of just Brandt, Sabitzer and Groß. Can just isn't good enough on the ball right now. I'd swap Can and Süle in your lineup for fullbacks and see how it works.

 

[Jack Straw]

No one anywhere near Kampl.

 

[Evilo]

Ekitike blowing out as expected.

 

[Evilo]

If that's a penalty, wowowowowow.
Incredible stupid decision to all it a foul already. But a pen? Through VAR?

Well done ref !

 

[Jack Straw]

Welp, had to happen sooner or later but that was a pretty crappy way to lose a game. Up 2-0, at home, giving up a soft goal or two... oh well. Onward and upward.

 

[JoVel]

They've given up 2+ goals in all three games they've played against Bundesliga teams. Maybe not the time to panic, but something to keep an eye on for sure.

 

[cgf]

They've given up 2+ goals in all three games they've played against Bundesliga teams. Maybe not the time to panic, but something to keep an eye on for sure.

Tah's motivation is always a big question, if he wants out it's not hard seeing him check out again.

I'm not a fan because I don't think Schlotterbeck has been great on the left, and this team doesn't have the depth to keep giving those three full minutes. I think eventually they are bound to trial a midfield of just Brandt, Sabitzer and Groß. Can just isn't good enough on the ball right now. I'd swap Can and Süle in your lineup for fullbacks and see how it works.

Oh I wasn't arguing for that, just spitballing how to make it work if they did want to keep 3 CBs and 3 CMs/DMs on the pitch. I think Dortmund should play a back 4 and I do think they need Can shielding the defense against counters. Groß - Sabitzer could work in some games but my default would be:

Guirassy
Adeyemi - Brandt - Beier
Can - Groß
Bensebaini* - Schlotterbeck - Anton - Ryersen*

Malen / Bynoe Gittens / Duranville / Reyna
Sabitzer / Nmecha
*Couto / Kabar
Süle​