Georgiev is ridiculously bad and it’s kinda embarrassing the Sharks play him.

[Macheteops]

He's probably the same echelon of goalie as Vanecek, can be an elite backstop in a system but garbage as a #1.
If the Sharks find a taker for him (or he signs on as a backup) he can have a strong season next year.

I don't know he was a back-up with New York for years. I recall the days of Bern saying he would be a great starter because he needed the workload and wasn't meant as a back-up

He did have one good season but I don't really think it matters he just isn't that great

 

[lionsDen]

Don’t miss that guy

 

[El Travo]

He's the perfect goalie for a rebuild. Your guys can be playing perfect hockey, only for him to allow 4 softies to keep you nice and low in the standings. It's a win-win. Your team learns to play the right way and you don't risk winning games on accident.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

He's the perfect goalie for a rebuild. Your guys can be playing perfect hockey, only for him to allow 4 softies to keep you nice and low in the standings. It's a win-win. Your team learns to play the right way and you don't risk winning games on accident.

>play the right way
>lose

 

[dahrougem2]

Georgiev will not get an NHL job next year. Unless a team is full-on tanking from day 1 and annoints him the starter.

 

[Puckstop40]

The amount of times I’ve seen this guy get beat blocker side while standing up is unreal. He has truly earned his nickname over the past 2 years.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

 

[El Travo]

>play the right way
>lose

With Georgiev in net, you can also say:

> Only allow 12 shots on net
> Lose 4-3

 

[TheBeard]

Considering the goalie market, this is the best deal they can realistically get. Waiting is unnecessary risk. They get two trade chips at worst that can go to filling more relevant spots in their lineup. Blackwood is also not part of the Sharks future.

That’s fine. And the return alone was worth Blackwood, but having to take back Georgie should have increased the price. I’m starting to think Grier didn’t ask for more because he was convinced he could work his magic with Georgie.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

 

[PAZ]

George would be a decent backup, except his inflated ego and piss poor attitude gets in the way.

I'll be surprised if he's in the NHL next season.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

That’s fine. And the return alone was worth Blackwood, but having to take back Georgie should have increased the price. I’m starting to think Grier didn’t ask for more because he was convinced he could work his magic with Georgie.

There's no reason to believe that Blackwood alone is worth Kovalenko and a 2nd though. He'd be lucky on his own to be worth a 2nd given his track record. Taking Georgiev is what got us Kovalenko.

 

[SoundAndFury]

Traded Miller for a 1st and the corpse of Steve Ott? Idk, I regarded that as a more natural hockey trade- year before the big draft, I think, we weren’t going anywhere, absolutely sucked seeing Miller leave but we were sellers at that point. I suppose you could argue leaving Enroth in charge was similar, but at least that didn’t have the optics of “we are actively switching out a good goalie for someone we know is awful” in the 2nd-3rd year of a tank.

Maybe I said the wrong year. I meant when they had Hackett, Enroth, Lindback, Neuvirth all playing for them. Especially the Neuvirth trade was given the "well, he was just too good for them to keep playing him" tag.

 

[Green]

Their goal is not to win, so it's not really embarrassing in any way for the Sharks. It'll be another thing entirely if they play goalies like him when their team is respectable again.

Which is a joke that the NHL allows teams to get a 1st overall in back to back year's, there should be a rule that if you get a 1st overall pick you are not allowed to pick in the top 3 for at least 3 years, will give teams and incentive to try and win

 

[Big McLargehuge]

The boldest attempt of a team attempting to lose games since Matthew Yeats.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

He looked really good at time on the Rangers. But then again, a lot of guys do when your goalie coach is Benoit Allaire.

He's a bit undersized and that makes it so much more difficult to be an NHL goalie. You literally cannot afford to make a positional mistake, ever.

 

[JoeSakic13]

I don’t think he’s worse than Flyers goalies

You’d be wrong though

 

[Oddbob]

SJS is bad and his numbers are similar to what Vanecek's were. Bad teams get worse at the deadline and this is the time of year the bad teams start playing even worse than they were. Detroit 3-4 years back were doing this each season, not doing great, but sell of some pieces at the deadline, even worse players replace them, the ones that are already there are even more checked out and the first thing that suffers is the goalies.

Not defending Georgiev as I think he is a marginal goalie at best, but goalies stats and play on the really bad teams isn't always a good barometer of their abilities.

 

[Oddbob]

You’d be wrong though

I don't think he is. The Flyers are better than SJS, but go look at the stats of all 3 Flyers goalies this season. They are dreadfully bad, and that is with a defensive minded coach.

 

[JoeSakic13]

I don't think he is. The Flyers are better than SJS, but go look at the stats of all 3 Flyers goalies this season. They are dreadfully bad, and that is with a defensive minded coach.

Aren’t you the guy who just said the Trouba hit on Kyrou looked unintentional?

 

[Oddbob]

Aren’t you the guy who just said the Trouba hit on Kyrou looked unintentional?

It did look unintentional as far as trying hit him in the head. The main part of his shoulder is heading for Kyrou's shoulder and there is head contact. People just can't separate that a dirty player can still throw hits that they aren't intending to injure someone. One thing also has nothing to do with another. Go look at their stats, you wouldn't pick any of the 3 Flyers goalies over Georgiev, as all 4 have brutal stats, at least Gerorgiev's SJ stats are also because they are really bad. Philly is superior to SJ even if PHI is also a bad team.

 

[TheBeard]

There's no reason to believe that Blackwood alone is worth Kovalenko and a 2nd though. He'd be lucky on his own to be worth a 2nd given his track record. Taking Georgiev is what got us Kovalenko.

I really don’t think Kovalenko had that much value, but basically he was the return for Georgie, which basically bailed Colorado out. He’s 26 and will ultimately end up being a journeyman like Kostin.

 

[Bizz]

Georgiev will not get an NHL job next year. Unless a team is full-on tanking from day 1 and annoints him the starter.

Highly doubt it. He knows his NHL career is done for. He'll buy a one way ticket to the KHL sometime this offseason.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I really don’t think Kovalenko had that much value, but basically he was the return for Georgie, which basically bailed Colorado out. He’s 26 and will ultimately end up being a journeyman like Kostin.

And taking Georgiev’s contract to finish the season at that cap doesn’t have much trade value either. There’s nothing about Georgiev’s play or contract justifies paying a higher price. It’s a bit trigger happy to be as convinced about Kovalenko as a rookie here to Kostin who’s been on the fringe in the NHL for four seasons now.

 

[TheBeard]

And taking Georgiev’s contract to finish the season at that cap doesn’t have much trade value either. There’s nothing about Georgiev’s play or contract justifies paying a higher price. It’s a bit trigger happy to be as convinced about Kovalenko as a rookie here to Kostin who’s been on the fringe in the NHL for four seasons now.

There’s a 5 month age gap between Kostin and Kovalenko. There’s just not a ton of upside there.

And you’re right. There is no trade value in Georgie’s contract as in zero. We took him for basically free when in reality, like Goodrow’s deal (even though he does have additional years) we should have gotten far more than we did.