George Laraque important message about Subban

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The french media have a larger coverage of the Habs. There are extra journalists and commentators that wouldn't have a job if the offer wasn't that vast. So that gives paper and microphone to few francophones who should stay hidden in the closet. My opinion and you're free to contradict me.

But those few toxic mouths gives a bad impression of the frenchies, you say you're not xenophobic about the frenchs and I beleive you. But the others anglos, they make the difference between the Réjeannes and the other francos?

There are two laws of the physics there: the water drop and the contrainer. In one situation you drop the water on the ground (no container) and the water dissapear in the ground. The other option you drop the water and the water stays in the container.
Now that's very possible, and highly probable (higher coverage increases likelihood of bad apples). Once again, and I repeat, a few toxic mouths don't give a bad impression of frenchies (as you put it), it gives a bad impression of the french media covering the Habs. I am calling out a very small subset of individuals who just happen to be french, please don't stretch my argument any further than that because everything else is an illogical deduction.
 
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This is typing not talking, sir.

I get pickles are lazy by nature so you probably missed the posts where I posted how much he raised.

I will type it again, slower this time so you can follow along.

His website used to have a section where he had a tracker. He pulled it down in 2019 and was at 30%

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He donated another 250k in 2019, 50k in 2020 and a whopping 0k in 2021.


In total he has donated 33% of the pledged $10 million as of 2021.
Wow someone has anger issues. I'm a grandfather helping raise a 3 year old little girl I don't have the time to read every page of these forums.

So your issue is he may or may not have reached his goal to raise 10 million bucks for the MCH. And you think he made the pledge out of some sort of ego driven disingenuous act to get his name on an attrium entrance? He's raised money for children's hospitals in Nashville and New Jersey he's not trying to scam anyone. He doesn't live in Montreal anymore kind of hard to raise money for a hospital in Montreal when you're playing in New Jersey. You add the pandemic and now crippling inflation I suppose the money just dried up.


It's disappointing that he didn't make his goal if this information is up to date and accurate. If you're that concerned about those sick kids being cheated then may I suggest you make a donation to his foundation. You can make your donation through that link in your post.
 

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This is typing not talking, sir.

I get pickles are lazy by nature so you probably missed the posts where I posted how much he raised.

I will type it again, slower this time so you can follow along.

His website used to have a section where he had a tracker. He pulled it down in 2019 and was at 30%

pktracker.jpg


He donated another 250k in 2019, 50k in 2020 and a whopping 0k in 2021.


In total he has donated 33% of the pledged $10 million as of 2021.
Wow someone has anger issues. I'm a grandfather helping raise a 3 year old little girl I don't have the time to read every page of these forums.


So your issue is he may or may not have reached his goal to raise 10 million bucks for the MCH. And you think he made the pledge out of some sort of ego driven disingenuous act to get his name on an attrium entrance? He's raised money for children's hospitals in Nashville and New Jersey he's not trying to scam anyone. He doesn't live in Montreal anymore kind of hard to raise money for a hospital in Montreal when you're playing in New Jersey. You add the pandemic and now crippling inflation I suppose the money just dried up.


It's disappointing that he didn't make his goal if this information is up to date and accurate. If you're that concerned about those sick kids being cheated then may I suggest you make a donation to his foundation. You can make your donation through that link in your post
Now that's very possible, and highly probable (higher coverage increases likelihood of bad apples). Once again, and I repeat, a few toxic mouths don't give a bad impression of frenchies (as you put it), it gives a bad impression of the french media covering the Habs. I am calling out a very small subset of individuals who just happen to be french, please don't stretch my argument any further than that because everything else is an illogical deduction.
I think we can all agree that the media that covers the Habs as a whole is pretty toxic with a few exceptions. They stir up shit sometimes to generate stories and feed on any drama going on around the team.
 

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Wow someone has anger issues. I'm a grandfather helping raise a 3 year old little girl I don't have the time to read every page of these forums.


So your issue is he may or may not have reached his goal to raise 10 million bucks for the MCH. And you think he made the pledge out of some sort of ego driven disingenuous act to get his name on an attrium entrance? He's raised money for children's hospitals in Nashville and New Jersey he's not trying to scam anyone. He doesn't live in Montreal anymore kind of hard to raise money for a hospital in Montreal when you're playing in New Jersey. You add the pandemic and now crippling inflation I suppose the money just dried up.


It's disappointing that he didn't make his goal if this information is up to date and accurate. If you're that concerned about those sick kids being cheated then may I suggest you make a donation to his foundation. You can make your donation through that link in your post

I think we can all agree that the media that covers the Habs as a whole is pretty toxic with a few exceptions. They stir up shit sometimes to generate stories and feed on any drama going on around the team.
You are correct. PK Subban is clearly a supervillain whose evil plan was to get his name on an Atrium at all costs. Thus, he evilly pledged an amount he had no intent of delivering upon in order to insidiously achieve his dual goals of having an atrium named after him and double-crossing sick children everywhere.

Clearly, he is pure and delicious evil from 100% concentrate. I don't know how I didn't see it.
 

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You are correct. PK Subban is clearly a supervillain whose evil plan was to get his name on an Atrium at all costs. Thus, he evilly pledged an amount he had no intent of delivering upon in order to insidiously achieve his dual goals of having an atrium named after him and double-crossing sick children everywhere.

Clearly, he is pure and delicious evil from 100% concentrate. I don't know how I didn't see it.
The perfect crime!

It's disappointing that he didn't make his goal if this information is up to date and accurate.
That was my entire point. It is the PKult that got their panties bunched over that little bit of info.
 

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The french media have a larger coverage of the Habs. There are extra journalists and commentators that wouldn't have a job if the offer wasn't that vast. So that gives paper and microphone to few francophones who should stay hidden in the closet. My opinion and you're free to contradict me.

But those few toxic mouths gives a bad impression of the frenchies, you say you're not xenophobic about the frenchs and I beleive you. But the others anglos, they make the difference between the Réjeannes and the other francos?

There are two laws of the physics there: the water drop and the contrainer. In one situation you drop the water on the ground (no container) and the water dissapear in the ground. The other option you drop the water and the water stays in the container.

There's an overwhelming number of French sports media personalities who are dicks and it's not just the ones who are there because of the extra demand. Oh the English too, I'd say, but their proportion of the market is small. Whether French or English, they all seem self-serving, but the French ones dominate the market and have the added annoyance of pushing political ideals in a place where it doesn't belong. It sets them apart and that's what people refer to when they say French Sports Media as a whole.

Rejaune, Flynn, Raymond, Bernier, Leclerc, Pedneault, Labbé, Villeneuve, Langlois, Lavoie, Bergeron and I forget quite a few. The list is long and they are not the extras. They are the main ones and they are bad. The whole scene would get a major uplift by hiring more competent journalists.

One of the rare ones I don't dislike, although he can be annoying at times is Cantin, because he had the balls to ask question the Habs PR team and Bergevin frowned upon. And he doesn't seem self-serving, he seems to genuinely care about his profession.
 

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Now that's very possible, and highly probable (higher coverage increases likelihood of bad apples). Once again, and I repeat, a few toxic mouths don't give a bad impression of frenchies (as you put it), it gives a bad impression of the french media covering the Habs. I am calling out a very small subset of individuals who just happen to be french, please don't stretch my argument any further than that because everything else is an illogical deduction.
And you might know there is a few anglos in the medias that are toxic too. How many years Cherry was on air? And he lost his job when he attaqued the immigrants for not being enough patriotic. You know, toxic goes both ways.
 
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I think most regulars here know I’m generally even keeled, but I’ll just come out and say it.

PK the humanitarian is a class act. If any idiot hater would spend a couple minutes listening to Laraque, he tells a story of a pre-star PK taking the time to travel with Georges to Haiti after the massive earthquake that rocked the nation and spent a week helping where he can.

Oh, but the shame! PK may or may not have raised $10 million for a hospital in a city he no longer has any ties to!

Let’s ignore the $3 to $4 million he has raised. Let’s ignore the work his foundation has done for the hospital, including the matching of donations for cancer patients in March and other times he matched donations or personally participated in fundraisers.

BUT OH!!! That should be included in the millions he pledged so it shouldn’t count! Boo hoo, he only raised a few million! What a trash person for not giving MORE money.

Sure, ask the kids and the staff if they give a F**K!

And how about the kids? Other than the financial commitments, every time he comes back to town, he makes a stop at the hospital to see the kids.

Sure, I get it. It’s easier to just bring up all the bad, nitpick about somebody else’s time and money and call him a horrible person. Well, the only horrible people are the ones who feel the need to try to tear down a person who is a better human being than they are.

It's the nitpicking itself that hints to an underlying motive, no matter how much they deny it.
 

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My money is on the guy accusing others of talking out of their asses!


Horrible advice. Give directly to the hospital. By the looks of his foundation's numbers, Big Karl is taking too big of a cut.

You can pretend not being racist, but you've now accused both PK and is Dad of dishonesty, without proof, so there's definitely hate there.

The fact you've harped about the donation for pages on top of those unsupported accusations makes it obvious you're not here to simply criticize.

The Subban threads always end the same way in the last few years, with someone harping over the pledge, once everything else gets shot down. It's the last refuge of the haters, racist or not.

Maybe you should buy a punching bag. It's far more efficient for venting your hatred.
 

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Now the PKult has determined it is racist to suggest giving your donation directly to the hospital instead of going through the PKatrium Foundation.

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There's an overwhelming number of French sports media personalities who are dicks and it's not just the ones who are there because of the extra demand. Oh the English too, I'd say, but their proportion of the market is small. Whether French or English, they all seem self-serving, but the French ones dominate the market and have the added annoyance of pushing political ideals in a place where it doesn't belong. It sets them apart and that's what people refer to when they say French Sports Media as a whole.

Rejaune, Flynn, Raymond, Bernier, Leclerc, Pedneault, Labbé, Villeneuve, Langlois, Lavoie, Bergeron and I forget quite a few. The list is long and they are not the extras. They are the main ones and they are bad. The whole scene would get a major uplift by hiring more competent journalists.

One of the rare ones I don't dislike, although he can be annoying at times is Cantin, because he had the balls to ask question the Habs PR team and Bergevin frowned upon. And he doesn't seem self-serving, he seems to genuinely care about his profession.
Martin Leclerc is very articulate, I wouldn't put him in the same categories as other. Tremblay is the worst and I'm a francophone... hate Flynn too. Raymond and Villeneuve are retired. Who's Bernier? The others are not that bad even tho I don't agree with them all the time. On the flip side there are a bunch of new guys who are great IMO the guys from BPM sport, la poche bleu and some athletic writters.
I think the writters from the gazette can be just as bad. To me the old guard who used to see the Habs win the cup every few years all live in the past. French or english. They are mostly complaining and don't understand it's so much harder to win now.
 
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Martin Leclerc is very articulate, I wouldn't put him in the same categories as other. Tremblay is the worst and I'm a francophone... hate Flynn too. Raymond and Villeneuve are retired. Who's Bernier? The others are not that bad even tho I don't agree with them all the time. On the flip side there are a bunch of new guys who are great IMO the guys from BPM sport, la poche bleu and some athletic writters.
I think the writters from the gazette can be just as bad. To me the old guard who used to see the Habs win the cup every few years all live in the past. French or english. They are mostly complaining and don't understand it's so much harder to win now.

Do you remember how Leclerc and Labbé made their names?
 

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No? I just listen to his spot on BPM sport and enjoy it. Perhaps he changed, i don't know

Leclerc and Labbé broke the story which was supposed to be the worst day in Habs history; The Kostitsyn bros/Hamrlik/mafia affair. Yellow journalism at its finest. No accusations were ever given to any of the Habs players, but they made a whole thing out of it.
 
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I read the entire thread and I'm not the biggest PK fan but I still don't understand wtf you're trying to prove here.

Even if he pledged/raised 3 M$ it's still great at the end of the day.
30% as great as $10 million, though.

The cry of the PKult is that he was traded so how was he supposed to honor his commitment.

Riddle me this - who is more popular in Montreal, PK or Drouin?

If your answer is PK then why has Drouin been able to raise more money?

The short answer is because he tried.
 

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And you might know there is a few anglos in the medias that are toxic too. How many years Cherry was on air? And he lost his job when he attaqued the immigrants for not being enough patriotic. You know, toxic goes both ways.
Yes absolutely, but remember I said my subset was of the media covering the Habs. Cherry never covered the Habs.
 

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Yes absolutely, but remember I said my subset was of the media covering the Habs. Cherry never covered the Habs.
Can we make a list of those toxic analysts in the french media?
There is Rejean Tremblay and Norman Flynn. Runner doesn't like Mario Langlois, he call him Langue sale. But Langlois wants to show the opinions of every side so he might hurt some fans.

Some are old style and I don't like their style like Mario Tremblay or Benoit Brunet. But they never cross the line of the toxic comment. Some old vets like Pednault might sound redundant but he always stay professional.

Take a look at these of RDS and tell me who is toxic or not professional. Anyway, for me as long as I can listen to Dubé, Gervais, Boucher, Carbonneau, Damphousse, Stock and Denis, I'm satisfied. And Luc Bellemare is a good host.
 

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Can we make a list of those toxic analysts in the french media?
There is Rejean Tremblay and Norman Flynn. Runner doesn't like Mario Langlois, he call him Langue sale. But Langlois wants to show the opinions of every side so he might hurt some fans.

Some are old style and I don't like their style like Mario Tremblay or Benoit Brunet. But they never cross the line of the toxic comment. Some old vets like Pednault might sound redundant but he always stay professional.

Take a look at these of RDS and tell me who is toxic or not professional. Anyway, for me as long as I can listen to Dubé, Gervais, Boucher, Carbonneau, Damphousse, Stock and Denis, I'm satisfied. And Luc Bellemare is a good host.
I'm sorry man, I don't have the time nor do I want to pursue this further. There's also a lot more to the French media covering the Canadiens than just RDS. Carbo and Denis are two of the better ones though. Anyways, have a good rest of your Saturday.
 

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