News Article: Geoff Molson re-affirms confidence in Marc Bergevin, will not hire a president of hockey operations

[sheed36]

He was so fast to fire Pierre Gauthier and was saying all the right things.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/canadiens-fire-gm-gauthier-part-ways-with-gainey-1.1154664

Why can’t he do the same with Bergevin?

I was listening to a TSN690 replay of what McKenna and Starr had to say this morning about what Molson had to say yesterday and I do agree with what they said regarding the Groupe CH likely not wanting to have to pay MB to not be the GM of the Habs.

The last few years it really seems money is far more important that winning for the Habs with stuff like not spending to the cap and for likely not firing MB and other management due to lack of success, so they don't have to pay them not to work for the organization.

Bottom line it seems to be all about the money for Molson and his Groupe CH partners these days. Just my opinion.

Here's the audio to what McKenna and Starr had to say this morning on TSN690 if anyone is interested in listening.
McKenna and Starr: What Molson really said

 

[The Real Timo]

I was listening to a TSN690 replay of what McKenna and Starr had to say this morning about what Molson had to say yesterday and I do agree with what they said regarding the Groupe CH likely not wanting to have to pay MB to not be the GM of the Habs.

The last few years it really seems money is far more important that winning for the Habs with stuff like not spending to the cap and for likely not firing MB and other management due to lack of success, so they don't have to pay them not to work for the organization.

Bottom line it seems to be all about they money for Molson and his Groupe CH partners these days. Just my opinion.

Here's the audio to what McKenna and Starr had to say this morning on TSN690 if anyone is interested in listening.
McKenna and Starr: What Molson really said

No doubt it is all about the money however (and I am no economist) wouldn't it be easier to make money of suckers if Habs was a contending team? wouldn't it be easier to sell lodges, season tickets, merchandise crap, condos and anything that can be branded with CH if this was a team that actually was pushing for the cup on a consistent basis?

 

[JeffreyLFC]

He was so fast to fire Pierre Gauthier and was saying all the right things.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/canadiens-fire-gm-gauthier-part-ways-with-gainey-1.1154664

Why can’t he do the same with Bergevin?

Molson said. "Just qualifying for the playoffs cannot be our goal or our standard, not for this team, not for this organization. This organization going forward must set its sights on competing for the game’s ultimate prize every season — and no lesser standard should be accepted."

Hilarious comment with hindsight!

 

[WeThreeKings]

No doubt it is all about the money however (and I am no economist) wouldn't it be easier to make money of suckers if Habs was a contending team? wouldn't it be easier to sell lodges, season tickets, merchandise crap, condos and anything that can be branded with CH if this was a team that actually was pushing for the cup on a consistent basis?

Theres a lot of suckers still buying and believing that MB is actually trying to rebuild.

 

[Rico Suave]

I was listening to a TSN690 replay of what McKenna and Starr had to say this morning about what Molson had to say yesterday and I do agree with what they said regarding the Groupe CH likely not wanting to have to pay MB to not be the GM of the Habs.

The last few years it really seems money is far more important that winning for the Habs with stuff like not spending to the cap and for likely not firing MB and other management due to lack of success, so they don't have to pay them not to work for the organization.

Bottom line it seems to be all about they money for Molson and his Groupe CH partners these days. Just my opinion.

Here's the audio to what McKenna and Starr had to say this morning on TSN690 if anyone is interested in listening.
McKenna and Starr: What Molson really said

the habs lose millions of dollars every year they dont make the playoffs,if ur GM cant build you a playoffs team after years on the job you move on regardless of the years left on the contract

 

[Adam Michaels]

Molson said. "Just qualifying for the playoffs cannot be our goal or our standard, not for this team, not for this organization. This organization going forward must set its sights on competing for the game’s ultimate prize every season — and no lesser standard should be accepted."

Hilarious comment with hindsight!

Tony Marinaro has played that press conference multiple times the last two years to drive home the point how things are today and how things seemed back then.

To be fair, though, in the early part of his tenure, the team was showing success. I think it all changed in 2016 with that historic collapse.

 

[sheed36]

No doubt it is all about the money however (and I am no economist) wouldn't it be easier to make money of suckers if Habs was a contending team? wouldn't it be easier to sell lodges, season tickets, merchandise crap, condos and anything that can be branded with CH if this was a team that actually was pushing for the cup on a consistent basis?

Yes one would think that but MB hasn't shown he has the ability to turn the Habs into contenders, especially in the past 5 seasons, and yet Molson doesn't feel the need to change the GM and try a different approach for whatever reason. For me that reason boils down to money and Molson likely not wanting to be on the hook for the remaining salary left on MB's or any other personnel's contracts if they were let go.

I'm just a lowly fan though who's sick of the losing and just wants the team to be a contender for the cup most seasons and not aiming to just be content with making the playoffs. For me the Habs and winning just doesn't seem like priority #1 anymore for Molson and his Groupe CH partners in the past few seasons despite what Molson is trying to sell us when he speaks.

 

[OldCraig71]

Just fire the er already, give your hardcore fans a glimmer of hope.

 

[Runner77]

I was listening to a TSN690 replay of what McKenna and Starr had to say this morning about what Molson had to say yesterday and I do agree with what they said regarding the Groupe CH likely not wanting to have to pay MB to not be the GM of the Habs.

The last few years it really seems money is far more important that winning for the Habs with stuff like not spending to the cap and for likely not firing MB and other management due to lack of success, so they don't have to pay them not to work for the organization.

Bottom line it seems to be all about they money for Molson and his Groupe CH partners these days. Just my opinion.

Here's the audio to what McKenna and Starr had to say this morning on TSN690 if anyone is interested in listening.
McKenna and Starr: What Molson really said

It was estimated two years ago, what it would have cost to ditch Bergevin and all the cronies he had appointed at the time and the price tag was in the neighborhood of $40-$50 Million. I wonder what it might be now, not that it’s going to happen but should be a lesser amount.

 

[shamrun]

Just fire the er already, give your hardcore fans a glimmer of hope.

oh man.....that made my day LOL

 

[Runner77]

Just fire the er already, give your hardcore fans a glimmer of hope.

You clearly can't take it anymore and you don't give a rat's ass. They should have had you at that PC, it would have been epic.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Just fire the er already, give your hardcore fans a glimmer of hope.

Now that's more like it

 

[The Real Timo]

You clearly can't take it anymore and you don't give a rat's ass. They should have had you at that PC, it would have been epic.

any of us at that PC would have been much better than what Molson blowhards from the montreal media are asking... they all have been reigned in and now towing the party line.

 

[Runner77]

any of us at that PC would have been much better than what Molson blowhards from the montreal media are asking... they all have been reigned in and now towing the party line.

If the party line needs to be towed, then it can't get any mileage on its own.

They're also toeing the party line, which makes it a double whammy.

 

[Fixxer]

Make that 27.

Well, Bergevin played 20 years in the league, with limited talent. He's 7 years in as the GM of the Habs, so maybe he can reach that... yeah. lol

 

[The Real Timo]

If the party line needs to be towed, then it can't get any mileage on its own.

They're also toeing the party line, which makes it a double whammy.

Touche

 

[BLONG7]

any of us at that PC would have been much better than what Molson blowhards from the montreal media are asking... they all have been reigned in and now towing the party line.

Perimeter Pansies.....the media in Montreal are soff, real soff....no one ever asks a second or third question ramming these guys with tougher questions. Mol$on is as bad as Clown Bergevin for moving goalposts, 5 years running....
They are disgusting as a duo....I cannot imagine what some of the alumni from the winning years think of these two circus acts.

 

[jackeymoon]

No doubt it is all about the money however (and I am no economist) wouldn't it be easier to make money of suckers if Habs was a contending team? wouldn't it be easier to sell lodges, season tickets, merchandise crap, condos and anything that can be branded with CH if this was a team that actually was pushing for the cup on a consistent basis?

Consistent cup contention requires 3-5 years of rebuilding, intense investments into scouting and development and huge losses in terms of the gate/food

Just look at Ottawa. They sold their talent at the right time, mostly got great returns and have suffered intensely over the last two years. Melnyk gets tons of crap but the truth is Ottawa will be a cup contender in 2 years and Montreal will continue being a bubble team. This is why I stopped watching the Habs 2 years ago

 

[WeThreeKings]

Here's why Molson lacks critical thinking skills

In the first few years, with the core of players HE INHERITED, we had a lot of success but we didn't win.

He failed to ADD to that core and then as HE MADE the team in HIS IMAGE, they got worse. Their re-adjustment is continually trying to make the play-offs while failing and being required to acquired picks and draft high, because despite their efforts to compete, he's so bad at his job, he is inadvertently pushing it in the direction it needs to go.

However, he won't commit fully to that direction because he wants to make the play-offs. If he embraced the tank (that's the result of him building a bad team, not trying to tank) and sold off the high value players, we would have a chance on going down a path to success. But he won't, and we won't, so we won't succeed.

 

[jackeymoon]

Perimeter Pansies.....the media in Montreal are soff, real soff....no one ever asks a second or third question ramming these guys with tougher questions. Mol$on is as bad as Clown Bergevin for moving goalposts, 5 years running....
They are disgusting as a duo....I cannot imagine what some of the alumni from the winning years think of these two circus acts.

Almost Everyone in english media should be fired and replaced with guys from Toronto. What a freaking joke. Arpan Basu, Marc Dumont, Eric Engels among the worst bootlickers in the NHL

 

[sheed36]

It was estimated two years ago, what it would have cost to ditch Bergevin and all the cronies he had appointed at the time and the price tag was in the neighborhood of $40-$50 Million. I wonder what it might be now, not that it’s going to happen but should be a lesser amount.

Yeah that amount should be much less now but Molson and partners seem to be penny pinching the past few seasons by not spending to the cap so any amount in the millions is likely a non starter for these guys these days. We're stuck with the word OC71 wrote above (yes I saw it before edited ) until his contract ends most likely.

The best we can hope for at this point is if there's no extensions for biceps and his crew if they don't right the ship in the next couple of years or whatever time MB has left on his contract.

I will say though in the past couple of seasons there does seem to be somewhat of a different approach with the "reset" and going for more drafting and hiring Bouchard to develop the prospects so it gives me a little more optimism for a brighter future soon but we'll see.

 

[jackeymoon]

Eric Engels smoked him in a professional manner without resorting to being Brendan Kelly. I was not expecting that. When this ends with Bergevin, I can't see Molson staying in the spotlight. He'll hire someone and back away.

You're severely underestimating Molson's unearned sense of self, narcissism and penchant for lying

 

[Habs]

King Geoffy thinks Bergy will get Sergabust back, and that means we wont that trade. Bergy probably convinced him it was part of his master plan.

5 year extension incoming.

 

[donghabs98]

Geoff Molson remains confident in Marc Bergevin's plan for Canadiens - Sportsnet.ca

Misplaced confidence is a dangerous thing and Molson has plenty of it. Molson also forgets to mention how the only reason the Habs entered into a restart was because of how bad Bergevin handled the 2017 offaeason. Letting go of Radulov, Markov and Sergachev anf bringing in Drouin and Alzner set us back and wasted years off of Weber and Price.

Even if he has confidence in Bergevin, bringing in an outside voice as President just makes logical sense for a team who was set to miss the playoffs in 3 straight years.

 

[Be a Hab]

Geoff Molson remains confident in Marc Bergevin's plan for Canadiens - Sportsnet.ca

Misplaced confidence is a dangerous thing and Molson has plenty of it. Molson also forgets to mention how the only reason the Habs entered into a restart was because of how bad Bergevin handled the 2017 offaeason. Letting go of Radulov, Markov and Sergachev anf bringing in Drouin and Alzner set us back and wasted years off of Weber and Price.

Even if he has confidence in Bergevin, bringing in an outside voice as President just makes logical sense for a team who was set to miss the playoffs in 3 straight years.