News Article: Geoff Molson re-affirms confidence in Marc Bergevin, will not hire a president of hockey operations

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Mb is paid about 90 percent more than he is worth.

You're getting soft, brother

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

This is what i believe too , and to add to what you said … Remember a few days ago the rumour of Vincent Damphousse being the next president ?

I think it was Rejean Tremblay who got the "scoop" , I think he said that Molson was in favor of a president but Bergevin is/was able to convice Molson that he doesnt need someone between him and the Boss. From what i remember Molson bought what Bergevin sold and put the idea of a president on hold.

Can you substanciate this? I read the collumn and I don't remember him saying that last part. Did he say it on the radio show? (91.9 or 98.5?)

I don't buy this. Molson doesn't need someone in between because Bergevin is his spokesperson. I don't buy that Bergevin convinces Molson of anything. Molson keeps him there because it's just too much trouble hiring another charismatic french yes man. Those who think Bergevin is some machiavellian genius who manipulates Molson are out for lunch. The furthest Bergevin is of that mold, is a smoocher/asskisser. No way he's intelligent enough to plan a manipulative/cohersive/persuasion plan. He's a f***ing moron who doesn't have an inkling how to plan.

 

[417]

You guys ever seen an interview by an owner where he expresses non-confidence in his GM?

Not sure why this is newsworthy...

he obviously has confidence in Bergevin

 

[Censored Toad]

If Gallagher wants 7-8 years i would hesitate a lot. His kind of players often slow down early in their 30ies. 7 years would put him at 35 the last season and 8 years at 36. Unless it's not 6+ millions not sure i would sign that.

Yes, his style of play is conducive to a heavy decline as the body wears down... that body has some miles on it! Unless of course he plays like Dru Dru at which point he will be largely ineffective.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

You guys ever seen an interview by an owner where he expresses non-confidence in his GM?

Not sure why this is newsworthy...

he obviously has confidence in Bergevin

And you find this normal after missing out on the playoffs 4 years out of 5?

Awaiting partyline in 5, 4, 3..

 

[Censored Toad]

At some point this season I hoped that the fans would just stop going to the games. Under 12'000 out of 21'000 would be a strong statement that the fans arent ok with all that BS. But for some reasons the Habs are such a prestigious franchise that if you ever get the chance to go in the Centre Bell for the experience, you just go.

boo'ing Marc Bergevin in front of cameras would be another good chance to show our displeasure but he will never expose himself to that risk.

A solution would be to Chant " OUR GM SUCKS " in a game, non stop for 4-5games straight until something happens. But I doubt that everyone will tag along or get the heads up to do so.

Anyhoo, when is marc's contract due ?

Unfortunately it would take years upon years of bottom of the basement like bottom 3 spots for real change before GM got fired. Along with trades are are Total and complete disasters and you cannot argue otherwise.

I mean its funny. Marc makes the team bad, Its a win cause we now get high draft picks. You almost spin it into progress no matter what. Just muddy the waters enough that isn't not clear we are total and complete losers.

The bar is so low, and I would stay that in my personal experiences, the denizens of HF habs understand hockey far more then the layperson fan. I've got friends who are hab fans that are still on the MB train of " he's done pretty good, not amazing but not bad"

Those are the people who are still going to games. I dont know how bad we would have to be to get that man fired.
My only hope is that he does not get extended and moves into a less central role in the habs org (Scout, A.Gm , Fitness and Bicep Consultant) . If he does get extended, i'll likely walk away from this organization until new owner/gm comes in. Its just too hard to like this team when you've got those clowns steering the ship.

 

[Gravity]

Geoff: "Hey Marc"
Marc:"what?"
Geoff: "8 more years!"

 

[Le Barron de HF]

You guys ever seen an interview by an owner where he expresses non-confidence in his GM?

Not sure why this is newsworthy...

he obviously has confidence in Bergevin

This is what, the 3rd time he's had to reaffirm his confidence in MB in the last few years? I think that he's had to do this so often says it all as far as the job MB has done with the team. You can blame it on the frantic market or rumors but fact remains, our lack of playoff action is a major negative on his resume.

 

[417]

This is what, the 3rd time he's had to reaffirm his confidence in MB in the last few years? I think that he's had to do this so often says it all as far as the job MB has done with the team. You can blame it on the frantic market or rumors but fact remains, our lack of playoff action is a major negative on his resume.

Be that as it may...I'm not sure what the story is here.

As long as he's still GM of this team...what purpose does it serve to ask him if he still has confidence in him?

 

[OnTheRun]

You just can't change an highly successful formula.

 

[Gravity]

Geoff "the hot dogs will be better next year" Molson taking in the mediocrity

 

[Frenchy]

Can you substanciate this? I read the collumn and I don't remember him saying that last part. Did he say it on the radio show? (91.9 or 98.5?)

I don't buy this. Molson doesn't need someone in between because Bergevin is his spokesperson. I don't buy that Bergevin convinces Molson of anything. Molson keeps him there because it's just too much trouble hiring another charismatic french yes man. Those who think Bergevin is some machiavellian genius who manipulates Molson are out for lunch. The furthest Bergevin is of that mold, is a smoocher/asskisser. No way he's intelligent enough to plan a manipulative/cohersive/persuasion plan. He's a f***ing moron who doesn't have an inkling how to plan.

Yeah it was on a radio show on a Québec station , I Believe Tremblay said that to Jeff Fillion

 

[Spring in Fialta]

What did Engels say?

1. That it was telling that Molson started his conference call concerned about justifying the hierarchy instead of making changes to it.
2. Molson spoke of his merits as a president and businessman when he was asked if the Damphousse rumor was a direct criticism of his work as a hockey executive. Engels said that if those merits were obvious to fans, he wouldn't have needed to mention them.
3. That if the team hadn't trended backwards again after the 96 points season in '19, he wouldn't appear myopic by betting on himself and Bergevin again.
4. The last sentence is a subtle jab at the consistent Canadiens tradition of always pushing the window ahead as to when this team will finally contend.

He did all this without sounding like a columnist with a schtick like Kelly.

 

[The Real Timo]

1. That it was telling that Molson started his conference call concerned about justifying the hierarchy instead of making changes to it.
2. Molson spoke of his merits as a president and businessman when he was asked if the Damphousse rumor was a direct criticism of his work as a hockey executive. Engels said that if those merits were obvious to fans, he wouldn't have needed to mention them.
3. That if the team hadn't trended backwards again after the 96 points season in '19, he wouldn't appear myopic by betting on himself and Bergevin again.
4. The last sentence is a subtle jab at the consistent Canadiens tradition of always pushing the window ahead as to when this team will finally contend.

He did all this without sounding like a columnist with a schtick like Kelly.

So we are not arguing the accuracy of Kelly's statements... just don't like the delivery? I rarely if ever read the gazette anymore... ever since the killed the HIO... but I am yet to find anything that Kelly says about Molson, Bergevin and their minions wrong.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

Okay, so Molson wants to be president. Cool.

Hire a special advisor then. He’s already done it, why not?

 

[Spring in Fialta]

So we are not arguing the accuracy of Kelly's statements... just don't like the delivery? I rarely if ever read the gazette anymore... ever since the killed the HIO... but I am yet to find anything that Kelly says about Molson, Bergevin and their minions wrong.

He's often hyperbolic to the extreme and with the delivery of a tabloid rag. Just awful, artless stuff. He's in Jack Todd's tier.

 

[ahmedou]

 

[peate]

He's often hyperbolic to the extreme and with the delivery of a tabloid rag. Just awful, artless stuff. He's in Jack Todd's tier.

Todd is a hack. Kelly is just a disgruntled fan, like us.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Todd is a hack. Kelly is just a disgruntled fan, like us.

They're both hacks. Being a disgruntled fan is not mutually exclusive from being a hack. He sucks at writing.

 

[sheed36]

1. That it was telling that Molson started his conference call concerned about justifying the hierarchy instead of making changes to it.
2. Molson spoke of his merits as a president and businessman when he was asked if the Damphousse rumor was a direct criticism of his work as a hockey executive. Engels said that if those merits were obvious to fans, he wouldn't have needed to mention them.
3. That if the team hadn't trended backwards again after the 96 points season in '19, he wouldn't appear myopic by betting on himself and Bergevin again.
4. The last sentence is a subtle jab at the consistent Canadiens tradition of always pushing the window ahead as to when this team will finally contend.

He did all this without sounding like a columnist with a schtick like Kelly.

Since you brought up Brendan Kelly. He was on TSN690 earlier this morning with Tony but I only heard the very end of the segment. Anyway Tony asked Kelly why he wasn't on the conference call with Molson yesterday and he wouldn't say why he wasn't there and told Tony he would tell him the story over a beer someday. Tony pressed him for details but he still wouldn't say on air. He said his "What the Puck" column is on hiatus (he did write a column on May 27th though) due to covid and said his gazette colleague (Cowan?) covered it for the gazette or something like that.

Now I'm wondering what this is all about? I know Kelly is mostly always negative and critical towards the Habs in his columns but I really hope the Habs didn't have anything to do with this due to his views on the Habs.

 

[OldCraig71]

You're getting soft, brother

Yeah, I know. I really don't give a fukk anymore, I like coming here and talking to all of you guys but in all honesty, I have lost my desire to cheer for what Bergevin has built. I will have hope again but not until the MB era ends.

Even though MB is a shitty GM, a star or two on the roster would help me overlook him to an extent but we don't even have that, we just have a vanilla bland bunch of scrubs wearing habs jerseys, not all that inspiring to old geezers like me.

 

[Justin11]

Molson really believes with his experience and Bergevin's "supposed respect around the league" the team is heading in the right direction...

 

[the]

He was so fast to fire Pierre Gauthier and was saying all the right things.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/canadiens-fire-gm-gauthier-part-ways-with-gainey-1.1154664

Why can’t he do the same with Bergevin?

 

[OldCraig71]

1. That it was telling that Molson started his conference call concerned about justifying the hierarchy instead of making changes to it.
2. Molson spoke of his merits as a president and businessman when he was asked if the Damphousse rumor was a direct criticism of his work as a hockey executive. Engels said that if those merits were obvious to fans, he wouldn't have needed to mention them.
3. That if the team hadn't trended backwards again after the 96 points season in '19, he wouldn't appear myopic by betting on himself and Bergevin again.
4. The last sentence is a subtle jab at the consistent Canadiens tradition of always pushing the window ahead as to when this team will finally contend.

He did all this without sounding like a columnist with a schtick like Kelly.

Wow, Engels woke up and realized that he was a journalist and not MB's butt plug. Impressive.

 

[OldCraig71]

He was so fast to fire Pierre Gauthier and was saying all the right things.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/canadiens-fire-gm-gauthier-part-ways-with-gainey-1.1154664

Why can’t he do the same with Bergevin?