Generational all time greats and their sidekicks

rielledup · 2025-02-25T19:11:08-0500

Anyone ever think about how crazy it is that all of the most recent generational all time greats (Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby, McDavid) all ended up playing with other all time greats (Messier + Coffey, Jagr, Malkin, Draisatl (on his way to being an all timer especially if he wins another Hart this year) organically ( they were drafted by the team, didn't sign with the team because they wanted to play with a great player?) Like what are the odds of that happening by chance? Gotta be 1 in a million or smaller.

Stuff like this makes me think we're living in a simulation.

Summer Rose · 2025-02-25T19:14:28-0500

When I read the thread title, I didn't think that's what you meant, and immediately thought about Esa Tikkanen playing on the same team as Gretzky.

vaspa · 2025-02-25T19:17:43-0500

Summer Rose said:
When I read the thread title, I didn't think that's what you meant, and immediately thought about Esa Tikkanen playing on the same team as Gretzky.

I'd say Grezky was lucky to get an opportunity to play with Tikkanen.

Maple Leaf · 2025-02-25T19:25:29-0500

Lottery win

Coach Reggie Dunlop · 2025-02-25T19:27:21-0500

Pavel datsyuk and shooting pucks off Justin abdelkaders body lol

rielledup · 2025-02-25T19:30:39-0500

Coach Reggie Dunlop said:
Pavel datsyuk and shooting pucks off Justin abdelkaders body lol

Huh?

tarheelhockey · 2025-02-25T19:48:33-0500

rielledup said:
Anyone ever think about how crazy it is that all of the most recent generational all time greats (Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby, McDavid) all ended up playing with other all time greats (Messier + Coffey, Jagr, Malkin, Draisatl (on his way to being an all timer especially if he wins another Hart this year) organically ( they were drafted by the team, didn't sign with the team because they wanted to play with a great player?) Like what are the odds of that happening by chance? Gotta be 1 in a million or smaller.

Stuff like this makes me think we're living in a simulation.

Funny you ask “what are the odds” when half of this was determined by literal lottery balls.

Jagr engineered his way to Pittsburgh because of Mario.

Crosby/Malkin and McDavid/Draisaitl happened because the Pens and Oilers repeatedly picked at the top of the draft.

The only one that was unlikely is the Gretzky/Messier/Coffey trio. The Oilers went through a convoluted process to have Gretzky, and the other two were just good draft choices.

Mr. Met · 2025-02-25T20:02:26-0500

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LaCarriere · 2025-02-25T20:09:04-0500

tarheelhockey said:
Funny you ask “what are the odds” when half of this was determined by literal lottery balls.

Jagr engineered his way to Pittsburgh because of Mario.

Crosby/Malkin and McDavid/Draisaitl happened because the Pens and Oilers repeatedly picked at the top of the draft.

The only one that was unlikely is the Gretzky/Messier/Coffey trio. The Oilers went through a convoluted process to have Gretzky, and the other two were just good draft choices.

Insert drafts were rigged comment here for Edmonton, pit, Blackhawks, etc

rielledup · 2025-02-25T20:18:19-0500

tarheelhockey said:
Funny you ask “what are the odds” when half of this was determined by literal lottery balls.

Jagr engineered his way to Pittsburgh because of Mario.

Crosby/Malkin and McDavid/Draisaitl happened because the Pens and Oilers repeatedly picked at the top of the draft.

The only one that was unlikely is the Gretzky/Messier/Coffey trio. The Oilers went through a convoluted process to have Gretzky, and the other two were just good draft choices.

Not aware of the jagr story just know he was drafted by Pitt, how did he engineer his way there?

Regardless of lottery balls the odds of drafting players that good are very small. The odds of three teams drafting players like Gretzky, McDavid, Crosby and also drafting players like messier, Draisatl and Malkin are very small wouldn't you say?

john g · 2025-02-25T20:37:15-0500

rielledup said:
Not aware of the jagr story just know he was drafted by Pitt, how did he engineer his way there?

Regardless of lottery balls the odds of drafting players that good are very small. The odds of three teams drafting players like Gretzky, McDavid, Crosby and also drafting players like messier, Draisatl and Malkin are very small wouldn't you say?

He told the other teams picking in front of the Pens, he wasn't going to come to NA. All the while telling the Pens he would, bc of #66

Grifter3511 · 2025-02-25T20:43:44-0500

john g said:
He told the other teams picking in front of the Pens, he wasn't going to come to NA. All the while telling the Pens he would, bc of #66

You cant blame the guy though, can you?
His first name is an anagram of Mario Jr.

Coach Reggie Dunlop · 2025-02-25T22:33:18-0500

rielledup said:
Huh?

Abdelkader and datsyuk played a lot, there was seemingly no reason other than abdelkader would cause chaos in front and get free goals from datsyuk shooting it off of him.

kugelbahn · 2025-02-25T23:15:31-0500

rielledup said:
Anyone ever think about how crazy it is that all of the most recent generational all time greats (Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby, McDavid) all ended up playing with other all time greats (Messier + Coffey, Jagr, Malkin, Draisatl (on his way to being an all timer especially if he wins another Hart this year) organically ( they were drafted by the team, didn't sign with the team because they wanted to play with a great player?) Like what are the odds of that happening by chance? Gotta be 1 in a million or smaller.

Stuff like this makes me think we're living in a simulation.

OV did not, so not all. He is truly a unicorn.

Bombshell11 · 2025-02-25T23:48:41-0500

I would totally put Jagr as generational. He was the best player in the league for many years, sometimes head and shoulders above everyone else. Guy was scoring 127 pts when everyone was doing 90 and he had zero legit partners.

Like we said the generational players were all playing with all time greats but Jagr had no one after mario retired and he was still the best of his generation.

4 straight years leading scorer of the league and many more where he was at the top.

tarheelhockey · 2025-02-25T23:48:48-0500

rielledup said:
Regardless of lottery balls the odds of drafting players that good are very small. The odds of three teams drafting players like Gretzky, McDavid, Crosby and also drafting players like messier, Draisatl and Malkin are very small wouldn't you say?

True. To me the biggest un-likelihood is that the same team that drafted Gretzky also drafted McDavid, AND the same team that drafted Lemieux also drafted Crosby. The odds of those two sequences happening in tandem are kind of crazy.

rielledup · 2025-02-26T00:13:13-0500

tarheelhockey said:
True. To me the biggest un-likelihood is that the same team that drafted Gretzky also drafted McDavid, AND the same team that drafted Lemieux also drafted Crosby. The odds of those two sequences happening in tandem are kind of crazy.

Somehow I hadn't even thought that but yea that makes it even crazier. Like legit the odds of that happening twice to the same two franchises has gotta be 1 in a million

StrompTroller · 2025-02-26T02:02:40-0500

Mr. Met said:
Have you ever had a dream that that you um you had you'd you would you could you'd do you wi you wants you you could do so you you'd do you could you you want you want him to do you so much you could do anything?

I also like drinking....lets be friends??

Luigi Lemieux · 2025-02-26T04:15:58-0500

tarheelhockey said:
True. To me the biggest un-likelihood is that the same team that drafted Gretzky also drafted McDavid, AND the same team that drafted Lemieux also drafted Crosby. The odds of those two sequences happening in tandem are kind of crazy.

Pens and Oilers fans have both been spoiled. A penguin (Lemieux 6, Jagr 5, Crosby 2, Malkin 2) or oiler (Gretzky 10, McDavid 5, Draisaitl 1) has won 31 of the last 43 art rosses. 5 cups each in that time frame as well, more than any other franchise.

hangman005 · 2025-02-26T09:30:32-0500

We're talking about me and my trusty sidekick @Zirakzigil right :sarcasm:

Summer Rose · 2025-02-26T09:33:04-0500

hangman005 said:
We're talking about me and my trusty sidekick @Zirakzigil right

I thought your trusty sidekicks were @forsbergavs32 and @TheLegend.

hangman005 · 2025-02-26T09:36:48-0500

Summer Rose said:
I thought your trusty sidekicks were @forsbergavs32 and @TheLegend.

Minions. Because @Zirakzigil being my Milhouse will annoy him more :laugh:

The Gr8 Dane · 2025-02-26T09:42:50-0500

Ovechkin didin't need it , goat

forsbergavs32 · 2025-02-26T10:02:36-0500

hangman005 said:
Minions. Because @Zirakzigil being my Milhouse will annoy him more

Minion? How dare you! And I thought we were internet acquaintances.

Summer Rose · 2025-02-26T10:03:53-0500

forsbergavs32 said:
Minion? How dare you! And I thought we were internet acquaintances.

You are Dark Helmet; @hangman005 is President Skroob.

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