General Fines and Suspensions thread (2021-22)

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If anybody wants to help me understand why this was only a fine, when Labanc's three days earlier was a suspension, I'm all ears

@one2gamble

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George Parros

Position: RW
Birthday: Dec 29, 1979
From: Washington, PA United States
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 228 lbs.
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[TD]Teams Fought Against
RankTeamTotal
1San Jose Sharks17
2St Louis Blues10
3Los Angeles Kings10
4Calgary Flames10
5Dallas Stars9
6Edmonton Oilers9
7Columbus Blue Jackets8
8Vancouver Canucks7
9Buffalo Sabres7
10Chicago Blackhawks7
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@one2gamble

[TABLE="class: brtb_item_table"][TBODY][TR][TD]
George Parros

Position: RW
Birthday: Dec 29, 1979
From: Washington, PA United States
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 228 lbs.[/TD]
[TD]Teams Fought Against
RankTeamTotal
1San Jose Sharks17
2St Louis Blues10
3Los Angeles Kings10
4Calgary Flames10
5Dallas Stars9
6Edmonton Oilers9
7Columbus Blue Jackets8
8Vancouver Canucks7
9Buffalo Sabres7
10Chicago Blackhawks7
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[TR][TD][/TD]
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If you left it as just this, I think it would also explain a lot:

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George Parros[/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
 
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If you left it as just this, I think it would also explain it:

[TABLE="class: brtb_item_table"][TBODY][TR][TD]
George Parros[/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]

I know but I think it's interesting to actually see the numbers. He fought the Sharks almost twice as much as he fought anyone else. Maybe we traumatized him or something and now we're getting Parros's Revenge.
 
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One of these things is NOT like the others!
And those that are similar are all over the flippin' place... :laugh:


[TABLE="class: brtb_item_table"][TBODY][TR][TD="bgcolor: #B30000"]Player[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #B30000"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #B30000"]Offense[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #B30000"]Notes[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Ryan Getzlaf[/TD][TD]
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[/TD][TD]October 23, 2021
Dangerous Trip - $1,000[/TD]
[TD]Getzlaf fined less than the maximum allowable[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Ryan Hartman[/TD][TD]
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[/TD][TD]November 21, 2021
Slew-footing - $4,250[/TD]
[TD]Hartman fined the maximum allowable, for a player of his salary[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Artemi Panarin[/TD][TD]
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[/TD][TD]November 26, 2021
Unsporstmanlike Conduct - $5,000[/TD]
[TD]Panarin fined the maximum allowable, for a player of his salary, without a hearing[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]P.K. Subban[/TD][TD]
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[/TD][TD]November 2, 2021
Tripping - $15,000[/TD]
[TD]Subban fined the maximum allowable, for a player of his salary, with a hearing
(NOTE: Subban was a repeat offender; otherwise the max with a hearing is $10,000)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Kevin Labanc[/TD][TD]
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[/TD][TD]November 18, 2021
Slew-footing - 1 game suspension
($23,625)
[/TD]
[TD]Offense was deemed beyond a fine. Salary is forfeited for each game suspended[/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
But this also just shows that the DoPS does have the ability to diversify their rulings. They can fine less than the max; they can fine more than $5k (they just usually choose not to and quote "maximum allowable" instead).
 
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One of these things is NOT like the others!
And those that are similar are all over the flippin' place... :laugh:


[TABLE="class: brtb_item_table"][TBODY][TR][TD="bgcolor: #B30000"]Player[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #B30000"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #B30000"]Offense[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #B30000"]Notes[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Ryan Getzlaf[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]October 23, 2021
Dangerous Trip - $1,000[/TD]
[TD]Getzlaf fined less than the maximum allowable[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Ryan Hartman[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]November 21, 2021
Slew-footing - $4,250[/TD]
[TD]Hartman fined the maximum allowable, for a player of his salary[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Artemi Panarin[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]November 26, 2021
Unsporstmanlike Conduct - $5,000[/TD]
[TD]Panarin fined the maximum allowable, for a player of his salary, without a hearing[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]P.K. Subban[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]November 2, 2021
Tripping - $15,000[/TD]
[TD]Subban fined the maximum allowable, for a player of his salary, with a hearing
(NOTE: Subban was a repeat offender; otherwise the max with a hearing is $10,000)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Kevin Labanc[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]November 18, 2021
Slew-footing - 1 game suspension
($23,625)
[/TD]
[TD]Offense was deemed beyond a fine. Salary is forfeited for each game suspended[/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
But this also just shows that the DoPS does have the ability to diversify their rulings. They can fine less than the max; they can fine more than $5k (they just usually choose not to and quote "maximum allowable" instead).
I try not to compare across seasons too much - giving DoPS some benefit of the doubt that they can learn, grown, and set new precedents :laugh:, but it is pretty comical that Panarin got the same fine as this:
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and $5,000 more than this:
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Panarin can be tossed down to the ground and punched for free, but can't throw a glove
 
@one2gamble

[TABLE="class: brtb_item_table"][TBODY][TR][TD]
George Parros

Position: RW
Birthday: Dec 29, 1979
From: Washington, PA United States
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 228 lbs.[/TD]
[TD]Teams Fought Against
RankTeamTotal
1San Jose Sharks17
2St Louis Blues10
3Los Angeles Kings10
4Calgary Flames10
5Dallas Stars9
6Edmonton Oilers9
7Columbus Blue Jackets8
8Vancouver Canucks7
9Buffalo Sabres7
10Chicago Blackhawks7
[THEAD] [/THEAD]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
Whoa, be careful. The NHL may fine you and have your parents fired.
 
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One of these things is NOT like the others!
And those that are similar are all over the flippin' place... :laugh:


[TABLE="class: brtb_item_table"][TBODY][TR][TD="bgcolor: #B30000"]Player[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #B30000"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #B30000"]Offense[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #B30000"]Notes[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Ryan Getzlaf[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]October 23, 2021
Dangerous Trip - $1,000[/TD]
[TD]Getzlaf fined less than the maximum allowable[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Ryan Hartman[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]November 21, 2021
Slew-footing - $4,250[/TD]
[TD]Hartman fined the maximum allowable, for a player of his salary[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Artemi Panarin[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]November 26, 2021
Unsporstmanlike Conduct - $5,000[/TD]
[TD]Panarin fined the maximum allowable, for a player of his salary, without a hearing[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]P.K. Subban[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]November 2, 2021
Tripping - $15,000[/TD]
[TD]Subban fined the maximum allowable, for a player of his salary, with a hearing
(NOTE: Subban was a repeat offender; otherwise the max with a hearing is $10,000)[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Kevin Labanc[/TD][TD][/TD]
[TD]November 18, 2021
Slew-footing - 1 game suspension
($23,625)
[/TD]
[TD]Offense was deemed beyond a fine. Salary is forfeited for each game suspended[/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
But this also just shows that the DoPS does have the ability to diversify their rulings. They can fine less than the max; they can fine more than $5k (they just usually choose not to and quote "maximum allowable" instead).

After Ian Cole's spectacular knee-on-knee tonight and while we wait to hear what magic DoPS might conjure this time, let's do another one of these!


[TABLE="class: brtb_item_table"][TBODY][TR][TD="bgcolor: #B30000"]Player[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #B30000"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: #B30000"]Offense[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #B30000"]Notes[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Mark Borowiecki[/TD][TD]
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[/TD][TD]November 13, 2021
Kneeing - No supplemental discipline[/TD]
[TD]Borowiecki was given a hearing* but supplemental discipline was deemed unnecessary[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Andrei Svechnikov[/TD][TD]
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[/TD][TD]November 26, 2021
Kneeing - $5,000.00[/TD]
[TD]Svechnikov fined less than the maximum allowable, for a player of his salary[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Nicolas Aube-Kubel[/TD][TD]
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[/TD][TD]October 23, 2021
Kneeing - $2,687.50[/TD]
[TD]Aube-Kubel fined the maximum allowable, for a player of his salary[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Neal Pionk[/TD][TD]
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[/TD][TD]December 5, 2021
Kneeing - 2 game suspension
($58,750.00)[/TD]
[TD]Offense was deemed beyond a fine. Salary is forfeited for each game suspended[/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
*Compare that to, say Jani Hakanpaa who was involved in a knee-on-knee collision but was not offered a hearing and was also ruled to not extend his knee.


So... where do we land? Is kneeing worth a formal meeting but not supplemental discipline? A less-than-maximum fine? A maximum fine?? A suspension???

I guess we'll see where Ian Cole lands tomorrow!
 

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