General COVID-19 Talk #4 MOD Warning

[Lt Dan]

Can't wait to get back to the parm sandwich at Fratello's.

Let me know when

 

[RonM11]

Let me know when

I'm hoping April or May. I'll be fully retired at the end of the month...I'm leaving the workforce for good, so every day will be Saturday for me. Just need to get these f***ing numbers down to a tolerable level.

BA-2, be gone! Darken my doorstep no more.

 

[Maynard]

Let me know when

I’d love to! Really looking forward to this. Thanks guys.

 

[Lt Dan]

I’d love to! Really looking forward to this. Thanks guys.

You have to wear the clone helmet or no deal!

 

[Maynard]

You have to wear the clone helmet or no deal!

I’m anti-helmet. I actually did my own research on it so you can shove this helmet mandate up your shit pipe, Dan.

 

[Lt Dan]

I’m anti-helmet. I actually did my own research on it so you can shove this helmet mandate up your shit pipe, Dan.

So should we call you Gavin Newsom or London Breed?

 

[Lt Dan]

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It's a baby steps kinda day


Hosp 619----> 617
ICU 125---> 124

Hosp down big 617---->581
ICU 124---->118

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Nevada hospitalizations and cases are plummeting. Our governor lifted the mask mandate effective immediately today.

Nevada's a much more purple state than most, so this is an interesting move. Last time we removed our mask mandate, delta screwed us big time. So I guess we'll see.

 

[Bandit]

It is what it is at this point, but i boggles my mind that people still act like wearing a mask is some terrible hardship or infringement of liberty. Imagine if these p***yes were told they had to storm Normandy.

^ I know @LT Dan is on board...

 

[Lt Dan]

^ I know @LT Dan is on board...

#DicksOut!!!

 

[KINGS17]

It is what it is at this point, but i boggles my mind that people still act like wearing a mask is some terrible hardship or infringement of liberty. Imagine if these p***yes were told they had to storm Normandy.

^ I know @LT Dan is on board...

It would be interesting to have someone explain why one would have anything to do with the other.

 

[Lt Dan]

It would be interesting to have someone explain why one would have anything to do with the other.

#DicksOut!

 

[Bandit]

It would be interesting to have someone explain why one would have anything to do with the other.

Only the Gazpacho Police know for sure.

 

[Herby]

I spend a good chunk of my time in a places in this country with completely polarized views on masks. One where you get a dirty look if you wear a mask and another where well most of you guys know. I know which population I'd be more comfortable storming a foreign beach, and it's not even close.

I have no issues with a business wanting to do whatever a business wants. I think it's a bit ridiculous I have to wear one into a restaurant in CA and then can take it off when I sit down to eat, but whatever floats their boat, people who make a scene about it are stupid.

I also am happy that my young daughter has not been subjected to wearing one for two years like her cousins have, I worry about the long-term social and emotional impacts that this will do to young children. Adults not so much. The video of the reaction of the young kids in Nevada about not having to wear one was great.

 

[Bandit]

I spend a good chunk of my time in a places in this country with completely polarized views on masks. One where you get a dirty look if you wear a mask and another where well most of you guys know. I know which population I'd be more comfortable storming a foreign beach, and it's not even close.

I have no issues with a business wanting to do whatever a business wants. I think it's a bit ridiculous I have to wear one into a restaurant in CA and then can take it off when I sit down to eat, but whatever floats their boat, people who make a scene about it are stupid.

I also am happy that my young daughter has not been subjected to wearing one for two years like her cousins have, I worry about the long-term social and emotional impacts that this will do to young children. Adults not so much. The video of the reaction of the young kids in Nevada about not having to wear one was great.

Just curious, when you go to a hockey game, do you think it's ridiculous that you have to wait until you're standing in front of the urinal, or should you be able to just whip your dick out at your seat and whiz all over the arena on the way to the bathroom?

And yes, let's do think of the children...

The Venn diagram is a perfect circle.

 

[Herby]

Just curious, when you go to a hockey game, do you think it's ridiculous that you have to wait until you're standing in front of the urinal, or should you be able to just whip your dick out at your seat and whiz all over the arena on the way to the bathroom?

And yes, let's do think of the children...

The Venn diagram is a perfect circle.

I don't think your first example makes any sense at all. If I walk in the door and am a threat to spread virus how does it change when I sit down? Why am I a threat to the host greeting me at the door but not the server who serves me, the runner who brings me my food or the busser who clears my plates? But I don't know, this is the same country that requires people performing a job that involves crossing the northern border to be vaccinated but not migrants crossing the southern one.

As far as your other example, you are bringing up something that will effect a minuscule fraction of children in the country vs something that every child has had to deal with over the past two years. My solution would be to budget an armed policeman in every secondary school in America, make it similar to working in the jails, something you have to do before joining the force. I'm sure your solution involves unconstitutional restrictions.

Sorry that saying that the average rural person would be more equipped to fight in a foreign war over a city or suburban person. I guess we can agree to disagree on that one.

 

[Fishhead]

As far as your other example, you are bringing up something that will effect a minuscule fraction of children in the country vs something that every child has had to deal with over the past two years. My solution would be to budget an armed policeman in every secondary school in America, make it similar to working in the jails, something you have to do before joining the force. I'm sure your solution involves unconstitutional restrictions.

As a teacher who works with secondary-aged students on a regular basis, I can tell you with certainty that this is a terrible idea. If a group of students really wanted it, they could get that weapon. A lot of them might seem clueless in class, but they are incredibly creative, sometimes to genius levels when they really want something.

 

[Herby]

As a teacher who works with secondary-aged students on a regular basis, I can tell you with certainty that this is a terrible idea. If a group of students really wanted it, they could get that weapon. A lot of them might seem clueless in class, but they are incredibly creative, sometimes to genius levels when they really want something.

But a lot of schools in America already do this, at secondary and even elemtary levels, how many instances has it happened where an SPO lost control of his or her weapon to a student? I am not criticizing, I am truly curious.

I just don't see what the other solutions are. I know people have their ideas but none of them are going to be survive legal challenges so I think we need to look at ones that will.

To keep it on Covid, what are your views on masks for staff and especially students? From the teachers I know it seems to be mixed, based largely on political lines. I think a teacher should be able to wear a mask should they choose to, and also believe a parent should be able to decide for their children. I think choice is overall a good thing on the matter.

 

[Maynard]

I don't think your first example makes any sense at all. If I walk in the door and am a threat to spread virus how does it change when I sit down? Why am I a threat to the host greeting me at the door but not the server who serves me, the runner who brings me my food or the busser who clears my plates? But I don't know, this is the same country that requires people performing a job that involves crossing the northern border to be vaccinated but not migrants crossing the southern one.

As far as your other example, you are bringing up something that will effect a minuscule fraction of children in the country vs something that every child has had to deal with over the past two years. My solution would be to budget an armed policeman in every secondary school in America, make it similar to working in the jails, something you have to do before joining the force. I'm sure your solution involves unconstitutional restrictions.

Sorry that saying that the average rural person would be more equipped to fight in a foreign war over a city or suburban person. I guess we can agree to disagree on that one.

I think the idea is to have masks in more common areas where people gather and wait. Like restaurant lobbies. Also in tight spaces where multiple people cycle though, like restrooms. It’s not perfect, but it can help lower the risk to some degree. Table interactions are much quicker, no lingering, no tight spaces. Less spread.

Millions dead worldwide, one variant after another and people are still pissing and moaning about masks. The funniest part is that by ignoring the safeguards, the whiners are actually helping the virus stay alive and mutate, which leads to more variants, which leads to more restrictions and mandates for the whiners to whine about. It’s a self perpetuating circle of dumbf***ery.

 

[Herby]

I think the idea is to have masks in more common areas where people gather and wait. Like restaurant lobbies. Also in tight spaces where multiple people cycle though, like restrooms. It’s not perfect, but it can help lower the risk to some degree. Table interactions are much quicker, no lingering, no tight spaces. Less spread.

Millions dead worldwide, one variant after another and people are still pissing and moaning about masks. The funniest part is that by ignoring the safeguards, the whiners are actually helping the virus stay alive and mutate, which leads to more variants, which leads to more restrictions and mandates for the whiners to whine about. It’s a self perpetuating circle of dumbf***ery.

I feel like I am not whining, I am not one of those people who are openly hostile to those that choose to wear one or flaunt businesses who request it. I just feel like the contradictions we see from certain rules, or politicians having a "rules for thee but not for me" attitude is a bad look. I think it should be up to the people to do what they want, I have had Covid twice, once very early on which I was pretty sick and then recently when I had no symptoms. I am vax'ed and boosted and just ready to move on and accept this as part of life, right or wrong. And I feel like this is not some type of terrible attitude no one else has, my sister in CA who is about as opposite politically from me as you could get feels the same way, she doesn't want her kids in masks anymore either (something I never thought I'd hear 6 months ago). And my guess is with the policy changes in many bluer states that have happened or are reportedly about to happen that the politicians realize a lot more moderate and even people on the left are starting to feel that way.

 

[Papa Mocha 15]

As a teacher who works with secondary-aged students on a regular basis, I can tell you with certainty that this is a terrible idea. If a group of students really wanted it, they could get that weapon. A lot of them might seem clueless in class, but they are incredibly creative, sometimes to genius levels when they really want something.

Have to jump in here. 100%. I taught in South Central LA in a heavy gang area. My kids were in getting jumped in as low as 6th grade. By 8th grade, some of these kids were already bigger than the teachers who taught them. I had been swung at by a few students back in the day when I was dumb enough to break up fights, luckily never got hit but it wouldn't take much to get a weapon off someone if a kid or group of kids really wanted it.

If one has taken a weapons safety course, they teach that the standard is 22 feet of distance is needed to be able to get a shot off safely if an officer was going to fire against someone doing a bum rush on them. People can get swarmed fast in. If teachers or onsite guards start carrying, the underlying threat is always there and in an area where tensions are high, it would change classroom dynamics and trust levels where race is already in issue would be magnified. Same with security. I'd be ok if there was a guard outside the school and off site that responds to multiple schools in a 3 mile radius but not in teacher's hands and not on the premises interacting with kids in high risk areas because that's what we did and they had to move officers off site d/t budgets. They had arresting authority as well and would work with local Sheriff.

If you have never been in an area where people hate you for the color of your skin because that is what they learned from home or you or they perceive it to be real, then add a gun in the mix, it can create some issues if it is local. But I wouldn't put them on site. Just very close by. But our schools were barred, gated etc. to give you an idea of the env. Maybe in a better area that would work better, but as far as inner city goes, it's dicey in a gang area because of the other variables.

 

[Papa Mocha 15]

I think the idea is to have masks in more common areas where people gather and wait. Like restaurant lobbies. Also in tight spaces where multiple people cycle though, like restrooms. It’s not perfect, but it can help lower the risk to some degree. Table interactions are much quicker, no lingering, no tight spaces. Less spread.

Millions dead worldwide, one variant after another and people are still pissing and moaning about masks. The funniest part is that by ignoring the safeguards, the whiners are actually helping the virus stay alive and mutate, which leads to more variants, which leads to more restrictions and mandates for the whiners to whine about. It’s a self perpetuating circle of dumbf***ery.

Yup. Because it's airborne and travels, walking around and spreading it is how people catch it. In a sitting location, it's not necessary confined but it doesn't travel as much compared to just walking across a room. The common areas, elevators is higher levels of transmission. Watching people travel in hospitals is interesting. More doctors and nurses take stairs. We walk along walls after a Pt rolls by instead of in the middle when someone is going to CT or MRI or being transferred from unit to unit or discharge. I'd say 1/2 just wear an N95 all day even walking the halls since Omicron hit. But these are the practices most of us are implementing now since the surge.


I just lost 1 patient on Tuesday and the one I left this am was trying to go overnight. All Covid. Another Pt got to the unit and coded 5 minutes later. Another Covid. This virus doesn't seem to want to stop or care about how we think or feel. Bunch of new hires on the unit d/t turnover, at least they have experience. But HCPs are making changes. I'm probably going to switch to pediatric ICU from adult ICU. Most of these patients are unvaccinated, greater than 90% are the people getting admitted and I'm tired of watching people just hurt themselves on purpose d/t ignorance or cult like thinking and then fall apart when they realize it could have been prevented. I've submitted an app and am waiting to hear back.

 

[RonM11]

I don't think your first example makes any sense at all. If I walk in the door and am a threat to spread virus how does it change when I sit down? Why am I a threat to the host greeting me at the door but not the server who serves me, the runner who brings me my food or the busser who clears my plates? But I don't know, this is the same country that requires people performing a job that involves crossing the northern border to be vaccinated but not migrants crossing the southern one.

As far as your other example, you are bringing up something that will effect a minuscule fraction of children in the country vs something that every child has had to deal with over the past two years. My solution would be to budget an armed policeman in every secondary school in America, make it similar to working in the jails, something you have to do before joining the force. I'm sure your solution involves unconstitutional restrictions.

Sorry that saying that the average rural person would be more equipped to fight in a foreign war over a city or suburban person. I guess we can agree to disagree on that one.

Over 1,000 kids have lost their lives to COVID-19, Herby. Your arguments are strikingly close to ridiculous Trumper arguments that forcing kids to wear masks in schools is "child abuse." You go ahead and storm those foreign beaches, Herby. We are sending 3,000 troops to Poland. Sign up.

 

[RonM11]

I think the idea is to have masks in more common areas where people gather and wait. Like restaurant lobbies. Also in tight spaces where multiple people cycle though, like restrooms. It’s not perfect, but it can help lower the risk to some degree. Table interactions are much quicker, no lingering, no tight spaces. Less spread.

Millions dead worldwide, one variant after another and people are still pissing and moaning about masks. The funniest part is that by ignoring the safeguards, the whiners are actually helping the virus stay alive and mutate, which leads to more variants, which leads to more restrictions and mandates for the whiners to whine about. It’s a self perpetuating circle of dumbf***ery.

So true. Two years and counting with at least the original wild virus and five deadly variants, and the so-called "mild" Omicron has killed over 130,000 in the U.S. and over 560,000 worldwide. There is even concern that the cloth masks and surgical masks we've been wearing with past variants perform poorly with Omicron. Your best bet is to get better masks, not discard them: N95 respirators, and KN-95 and KF-94 masks.

 

[Papa Mocha 15]

It would be interesting to have someone explain why one would have anything to do with the other.

I don't think it would be able to be understood by them. In my opinion, people who complain the loudest about masks and their freedom would be the least likely to do something like storm Normandy for someone else. Like it would never occur to them. I think, not all, but there is a large fraction who are living off the backs of other people's sacrifices but then scream freedom from the rooftops when something is inconvenient. Nothing about love of country or countrymen, just all me me me. Meanwhile a new variant emerges.