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GDT: Canada vs. Germany 20:05

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The_Eck said:
Hello Team Germany?? Why not try playing some offence?? Perhaps you'll have more success instead of playing the 1-4 system.
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Did you watch the game? They played much more offense than their talent allows.
 
I didn't notice the Doan-Draper-Smyth line until 3 minutes before the end of the game! Did they even play in the 1st 2 periods?
 
shawn_kemp said:
I didn't notice the Doan-Draper-Smyth line until 3 minutes before the end of the game! Did they even play in the 1st 2 periods?
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yip, and very good line. Quinn seriously has to keep them 3 together for good, doan and draper have good chemistry as they have played together b4.

Also, why was Nash on the top line?
 
Peter_Schaefer said:
Oh, I see. So are you just going to call me a liar or are you going to back that up with stats?

OCT 05 - DEC 26

Player Team GP PTS
McCabe, Bryan TOR 36 43
Visnovsky, Lubomir LA 38 36
Lidstrom, Nicklas DET 36 33
Boyle, Dan TB 37 30
Redden, Wade OTT 24 30

Redden = 1.25 PPG
McCabe = 1.19 PPG
Visnovsky = 0.947 PPG
Lidstrom = 0.917 PPG
Boyle = 0.811 PPG

Still gonna claim that he 'never did'?
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Where's your source. How many games did that last for because I missed it? Congrats, good work on the stats.. but post your source.

Now that more games have played Redden has fallen below a PPG playing for the #1 5 on 5 scoring team. How would he do on the 25th 5 on 5 scoring team.
 
I find it hilarious that no matter what country's game thread I read, there's always some people who's getting bashed like there's no tomorrow. McCabe is obviously good at what he does on the PP, but at the same time it's obvious that his defensive game isn't that good. I'm pretty sure that both the coaching staff and the management of Team Canada know this, and that leads me into thinking that they wanted him for his offensive capabilities and not his defensive capabilities. Would Phaneuf be a better all around defenseman? Most likely yes, but again, if they wanted an offensive d-man, then McCabe was the best choice there.

If he's not being played in the 1st PP line then perhaps the reason for that is that regardles of his NHL stats for this season, guys like Blake and Pronger have much longer history of being great PP quarterbacks. Not to mention that both of them have been playing better both offensively and defensively than McCabe during the first two matches.

edit: and I don't root for neither Flames nor the Leafs, but for the Wings, or more like for good hockey in general.
 
Big Mama said:
Where's your source. How many games did that last for because I missed it? Now that more games have played Redden has fallen below a PPG playing for the #1 5 on 5 scoring team. How would he do on the 25th 5 on 5 scoring team.
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http://contest.blastpromo.com/cgi-b...te1=13714|Oct-05-2005&date2=13726|Dec-26-2005

It doesn't matter how many games it lasted for, probably not many, because that's when Ottawa started to slump. The point is that is the time when Olympic roster talk was all over the place. I won't say those stats are good enough to justify any roster decisions, because they really don't mean much, but you challenged me with your 'Never did' comment so I'll break out the stats.
 
All I know is, Blake+Pronger together are absolute rocks on the blueline. :yo:

Why even bring in McCabe if he isnt even on the #1PP? Pronger and Blake is a better duo. Besides, hes the 7th dman, offensive output isnt highly important for that role since they dont play often.

Boyle>McCabe.
 
Peter_Schaefer said:
http://contest.blastpromo.com/cgi-b...te1=13714|Oct-05-2005&date2=13726|Dec-26-2005

It doesn't matter how many games it lasted for, probably not many, because that's when Ottawa started to slump. The point is that is the time when Olympic roster talk was all over the place. I won't say those stats are good enough to justify any roster decisions, because they really don't mean much, but you challenged me with your 'Never did' comment so I'll break out the stats.
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No problem you were up to the challenge, and I don't recall it. Handy stats page.
 
If McCabe absolutely "has" to play on the PP, pair him with Pronger, that way he can cover for him and make McCabe look half decent.
 
PapaBear said:
All I know is, Blake+Pronger together are absolute rocks on the blueline. :yo:

Why even bring in McCabe if he isnt even on the #1PP? Pronger and Blake is a better duo. Besides, hes the 7th dman, offensive output isnt highly important for that role since they dont play often.

Boyle>McCabe.
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McCabe>Boyle
 
Borlag said:
I find it hilarious that no matter what country's game thread I read, there's always some people who's getting bashed like there's no tomorrow. McCabe is obviously good at what he does on the PP, but at the same time it's obvious that his defensive game isn't that good. I'm pretty sure that both the coaching staff and the management of Team Canada know this, and that leads me into thinking that they wanted him for his offensive capabilities and not his defensive capabilities. Would Phaneuf be a better all around defenseman? Most likely yes, but again, if they wanted an offensive d-man, then McCabe was the best choice there.

If he's not being played in the 1st PP line then perhaps the reason for that is that regardles of his NHL stats for this season, guys like Blake and Pronger have much longer history of being great PP quarterbacks. Not to mention that both of them have been playing better both offensively and defensively than McCabe during the first two matches.

edit: and I don't root for neither Flames nor the Leafs, but for the Wings, or more like for good hockey in general.
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Excellent post - I agree on all points. Team Canada wanted McCabe for a specific role and if he succeeds in that role they made a good call. I hesitate to use the words "right" and "wrong" when it comes to the decision because whether Canada chose the "right" players will solely be determined (in this country at least) by whether or not they win the gold medal.
 
Peter_Schaefer said:
Just to clarify, I'm not trying to argue that Redden is a better offensive player than McCabe. I'm just stating the facts.
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Yup, someone posted he had a 4 point game on the 26th and that did it. I missed it. I have both on my fantasy team so I am suprised I missed it but I was away from a computer during the few days after Christmas. Congrats, you were correct.
 
The_Eck said:
Hello Team Germany?? Why not try playing some offence?? Perhaps you'll have more success instead of playing the 1-4 system.
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Because we have not the players for that perhaps?
 
Big Mama said:
Yup, someone posted he had a 4 point game on the 26th and that did it. I missed it. I have both on my fantasy team so I am suprised I missed it but I was away from a computer during the few days after Christmas. Congrats, you were correct.
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Do I get a cookie? :)
 
Showerhead said:
Excellent post - I agree on all points. Team Canada wanted McCabe for a specific role and if he succeeds in that role they made a good call. I hesitate to use the words "right" and "wrong" when it comes to the decision because whether Canada chose the "right" players will solely be determined (in this country at least) by whether or not they win the gold medal.
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Exactly the point. He is not on the team for defence. He is on the team because he is the most talented offensive d-man in the NHL. You can't leave a guy like that at home. Even just to have him on the bench in case you need offence.
 
My TV reception wasn't that great, but when that guy started showing off with all those twirls in the third period, where were all the other players? He had some nice moves.
 
Bob Cole and his dribble bib were a joke eight frickin years ago when he had Jagr passing to himself and Gretzky was the only Canadian player he know. I taped the 2002 Gold medal game and he didn't call one freakin goal scorer before the replay. I could see who scored everytime through the television screen, but then I had the advantage of actually knowing the players and the lines. Can't believe the laziest Pejorative Slur in sports still has a job. His senile partner is no help to him either. Cut back on the red meat or something Bob.

A Canadian institution? Yeah I guess. Kind of like Leaf losing.
 
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