GDT: GDT #43 New York Islanders vs Ottawa Senators | January 14th | 7:30 PM | F/L 2-0

[Rehabguy]

32nd in PP
32nd in PK

Team is disgraceful

But hey Lou believes in this group.

Roy needs to be able to fire McClean and Albalin and pick his own full staff. He also needs to start picking players he wants that can play for him.

That is the major problem. I watched Roy frustratingly yelling at MacLean after he pulled the goaltender something to the effect of cmon let’s get things going. It was futile. It didn’t give me much confidence watching Maclean running the 6 on 5. Roy needs to take over this team from top to bottom. His hands are tied. The shit has hit the fan and Lou needs to go! I hope the owners are listening but soon I expect Roy to be replaced by Maclean. You know it’s coming.

No, he needs to be given a chance to do things 100% his way. Lou forcing assistants on him isn’t ideal.

Yes the assistants play critical roles on teams this guy is a loser at this job. He shouldn’t be coaching the PK and we shouldn’t have the son of an assistant coach playing on the team. It’s an awkward situation and all of Lou’s doing and it’s not fair to his son either.

How can Roy take responsibility for special teams when his “assistants” have close relationships with his boss. Rid the team of Lou and the dynamic changes completely.

 

[Rehabguy]

End the misery. Tough season to watch. Can't imagine what is going through Patrick Roy's mind. Guy was a fierce competitor. The sens looked hungry last night the isles did not.

He must be totally frustrated. In the NHL at least at the coaching level he had little administrative control. That’s why he left the Avs. Unfortunately he’s back in the same situation on the Island. As a player he had a lot of control minding the net and he proved himself a winner on so many levels quite often the MVP. Feel for the guy.

 

[MarsTBOW]

Yup, The Country Club Always Wins....
I love Roy's competitive Spirit, something that just does not seem to fit with what is here among what we have with Lou and his Loser Staff...

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

End the misery. Tough season to watch. Can't imagine what is going through Patrick Roy's mind. Guy was a fierce competitor. The sens looked hungry last night the isles did not.

Wonder what Roy thinks of this list of Vezina trophy candidates?

 

[Rehabguy]

So you don't know.

Too many around here want to, for god knows what reason, give Roy a pass and deflect responsibility for the horrendous special teams to his assistant coaches. Personally, I think that is bullshit.

One here wants to give Lou a pass and deflect it to Roy. Personally I think that is bullshit.

Does a fish not rot head first?

 

[MJF]

It sure feels like our boys face more than their fair share of 3rd and 4th-string goaltenders.

And yet...

Very rough to play at home and get shutout by a guy who has spent the bulk of the season in the AHL.

Granted, Merilainen has now won 4 of five straight starts. He came in pretty hot.

Still, we barely tested this guy.

1 high danger shot on Meralainen in the 3rd period. Just 1.

 

[IslesNorway]

Yup, The Country Club Always Wins....
I love Roy's competitive Spirit, something that just does not seem to fit with what is here among what we have with Lou and his Loser Staff...

Nor the players.

 

[Torrey Redux]

One here wants to give Lou a pass and deflect it to Roy. Personally I think that is bullshit.

Does a fish not rot head first?

For the team, yeah, Lou is a train wreck. But, as is always the case with you, you missed the point of the post in order to flag wave for your boy again. The post had to do with Roy's discretion in choosing his assistants. None of us here know if he has that authority or not but some are making the assertion that he doesn't.

I know he didn't choose McClean and Albelin. I don't know if he has the power to fire them.

Right, you don't, and neither do I but you are placing the blame for the weak special teams on them when it may well be Roy's decision to keep them.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

Yup
Back to being bad AND boring

Hard sell

AND not playing hard. I usually hate that statement, because how dare we on the couch say something like that...but last night's ENG and not trying to block that shot is shameful.

That's an exclamation point on the death knell for this team and the pending UFA's.

 

[Arsenalogist24]

AND not playing hard. I usually hate that statement, because how dare we on the couch say something like that...but last night's ENG and not trying to block that shot is shameful.

That's an exclamation point on the death knell for this team and the pending UFA's.

I’m firmly on sell off both Nelson and Palms. But when both of them didn’t even try to block that ENG it got me more mad than anything. You don’t wanna be here, you’re on Zillow looking for the new playoff house. Get out

 

[Rehabguy]

For the team, yeah, Lou is a train wreck. But, as is always the case with you, you missed the point of the post in order to flag wave for your boy again. The post had to do with Roy's discretion in choosing his assistants. None of us here know if he has that authority or not but some are making the assertion that he doesn't.

New York Islanders general manager Lou Lamoriello has made his assistant coaching decisions for the 2024-25 season.

Assistant Doug Houda not returning to Islanders in coaching staff shakeup

You can read right? Because it makes pretty clear who's hiring who. Let me guess... fake news?

 

[Strummergas]

Has an assistant coach ever been fired mid-season? It happens to head coaches all the time, but I honestly can't remember an assistant getting canned without the whole staff getting sent off.

 

[MJF]

AND not playing hard. I usually hate that statement, because how dare we on the couch say something like that...but last night's ENG and not trying to block that shot is shameful.

That's an exclamation point on the death knell for this team and the pending UFA's.

I found it curious that after the ENG Roy did not pull Hogberg again with 1:24 left and us controlling the puck in the Sens end. Seems like Roy conceded the game at that point. The team wasn’t challenging the Sens, so the coach wasn’t going to go for it either. Perhaps a Statement about the Isles compete level last night?

 

[leeroggy]

Has an assistant coach ever been fired mid-season? It happens to head coaches all the time, but I honestly can't remember an assistant getting canned without the whole staff getting sent off.

The NFL had a number of those this season.

Can't think of one off-hand in the NHL

 

[Rehabguy]

Lest anyone misunderstand Lou Lamiorello's unwavering support for his guy let's remember that he hired John MacLean to coach what many thought were going to be a Stanley Cup Caliber roster the New Jersey Devils in 2010.

The hockey world was confused why the team had a horrible 2-6-1 record to start the season and many were questioning Lou's choice of MacLean as head coach. His response was:

"There's no thought whatsoever," Lamoriello told ESPN.com Monday. "John has done an exceptional job. I have no issue with him. Our record certainly isn't what any of us like, but it has nothing to do with coaching." and "I am totally supportive," and "The coaches are doing a good job. There are no issues here. We'll handle things the way we feel they're right. And we'll go forward. We're not going to be concerned about what people think or say." Lou Backs John MacLean

It was not until that 2-6-1 record rose to 9-22-2 did Lou fire MacLean from the Devils and hired the only person he apparently loves more other than Jacques Lemaire.

So we have this guy who at every level from head coach to assistant coach for the Yotes, Sharks, and now Isles has failed dismally ( for 6 years in a row every team MacLean has ever coached on the PP has been close to if not at the bottom of the league and some of those were some of the best PP teams in the league prior to his hiring) and yet Lou Lamiorello rehires him to coach OUR Isles special teams and continues to support him with fanatical loyalty to this very day. Who hires a coach with most horrible record in the NHL at every coaching level but Lou. (because he's family)

If he won't fire MacLean then the owners must fire Lou.

 

[Lame Lambert]

Yes I’m sure firing the assistant coach will fix this putrid team

 

[MJF]

Yes I’m sure firing the assistant coach will fix this putrid team

I’m sure. MacLean is stifling the power play’s will to score.

 

[Rehabguy]

Yes I’m sure firing the assistant coach will fix this putrid team

It won't but the roster is only 1/2 of the equation. If you've got the worse PP coach in the NHL for the last 6 years running coaching your PP and your PP is ranked at a historical worse, it doesn't take 1/2 a brain to recognize that maybe you should start there.

I’m sure. MacLean is stifling the power play’s will to score.

If the head coach has your team scoring goals at a record high pace 5 on 5 compared to the previous 6 years and your assistant coach has your team scoring goals on the power play at an NHL record low then I think we've identified at least one problem.

 

[Rehabguy]

That's the ridiculousness of it all. How can Roy have this team scoring at its highest level (when healthy) 5 on 5 and MacLean have this team scoring at an NHL record low with a man advantage?

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

Yes I’m sure firing the assistant coach will fix this putrid team

Lou fires MacLean

NYI roster on the PP:

 

[PK Cronin]

If the head coach has your team scoring goals at a record high pace 5 on 5 compared to the previous 6 years and your assistant coach has your team scoring goals on the power play at an NHL record low then I think we've identified at least one problem.

This is inaccurate, the 5 on 5 scoring is currently the second lowest since Trotz took over the team in 2018-19.

 

[Rehabguy]

This is inaccurate, the 5 on 5 scoring is currently the second lowest since Trotz took over the team in 2018-19

That's only if you are cherry picking stats. You want to control as many variables as you can when making statistical inferences. When healthy under Roy he had this team scoring 5 on 5 at its HIGHEST level in 6 years and GA at its lowest level in 3. That's just a statistical fact.

 

[PK Cronin]

That's only if you are cherry picking stats. You want to control as many variables as you can when making statistical inferences. When healthy under Roy he had this team scoring 5 on 5 at its HIGHEST level in 6 years and GA at its lowest level in 3. That's just a statistical fact.

Define healthy or show your work please.

 

[SI90]

Yes I’m sure firing the assistant coach will fix this putrid team

I don’t think it’s going to turn us into a Stanley Cup contender overnight. But coaching and schemes matter, we saw it in year one of Barry Trotz were virtually a worse lineup than the year before, and we went from worst goals against to the best and goals against. Systems and schemes and play designs absolutely make a difference. We may not have McDavid Matthews McKinnon, but we have players good enough that our power play should not be dead last and we have veteran penalty killers that are a penalty kill shouldn’t be historically bad.