Speculation: Gaudreau's next contract.

[Vancouver Canucks]

He's probably getting 10M flat in Calgary for 8 years

9 or 10M, I bet.

 

[pld459666]

Unless he inks before end of season/playoffs with Calgary, I think he will get a massive offer from the Devils.

he's a fit with that organization and they are not too far off from getting back into the playoff picture.

 

[crazyfisherman]

It's ok, I understand that math is a little difficult for some people

Yea its usually due to lack of cognitive functioning

 

[GeeoffBrown]

I'll say 6 years $11million

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Calgary might be better off not signing him in my opinion. I would throw the money at Tkachuk and then insulate him from there.

Tkachuk is a good player but he's benefitting significantly from playing with Gaudreau. He's closer to a 65-70 point winger if asked to be the primary offensive player on his line.

 

[RangerDoggo]

Unless he inks before end of season/playoffs with Calgary, I think he will get a massive offer from the Devils.

he's a fit with that organization and they are not too far off from getting back into the playoff picture.

The NJ connection seems like a good fit, but they'd have to shuffle around their top lines a little bit.

 

[blankall]

He's probably getting 10M flat in Calgary for 8 years

I'd be happy. Hopefully, they can sign Tkachuk for $9-9.5 million. Then move Monahan and Lucic and get Kylington/Mangiapane done. Then fill out the team with guys like Pelletier, Zary, Ruzicka, etc..

 

[cheechoo]

If he says he will re-sign only if Monahan is given another shot next year, Monahan will be here next year

Absurd hypothetical.

The team is clicking better than ever with Monahan out of the lineup and Gaudreau is pacing for career highs across the board since they've been separated.

If Gaudreau prioritized playing with a friend over being on the best possible team he'd go to Philadelphia to play with his bestie Kevin Hayes.

There's just no world where Tre or Johnny value Monahan's... presence over retaining Tkachuk, Mangi or Kylington.

 

[I am Canadian]

Montreal?

 

[Mickey Marner]

I was thinking 9 before, but after the season he's having it's probably more like 10 if he re-signs, 11-11.5 on the open market.

 

[Suntouchable13]

He's been way too up and down, no? Sure, if you sign him to 10+ M and he produces like he has this season, then that's great value. But what if he goes down to 70-80 point range again? is he a 90-100 point guy going forward? Or is this just a monster career season? GMs have to be very careful. This can become an albatross contract quite quickly. He is an outstanding talent, though.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

The NJ connection seems like a good fit, but they'd have to shuffle around their top lines a little bit.

I think I'd be okay with it

Gaudreau - Hughes - Sharangovich
Zacha - Hischer - Bratt
Wood - Mercer - Johnsson
Tatar - McLeod - Bastian
Boqvist

 

[Rich Nixon]

The NJ connection seems like a good fit, but they'd have to shuffle around their top lines a little bit.

I can see the Devils offering because they have the cap space and they have been making audacious offseason moves as of late, but I'm not sure what the "NJ connection" is outside of it just being the same state. The part of NJ that Gaudreau was born in is more or less Pennsylvania, geographically and culturally. That's all farmland down there, very rural. Then he went to high school across the river from Philly (so he could play hockey at a decent level). Physically, his youth was spent as close to Washington, DC as it was to Newark, NJ.

The "come home" speculation was always re: Flyers because he went to high school in their backyard and was a fan growing up. If we're going off "closer to home" and including the Devils in that, might as well throw the Caps and Rangers in there too (not that they're really in position to make that acquisition). Unless it's all based on not pumping his own gas, the Jersey where he grew up and the Jersey where the Devils play and practice are pretty different places.

 

[Rebels57]

Fletcher and Flyers owner Dave Scott are going to empty the Comcast coffers for Gaudreau. They've made that very clear. If he doesn't go to Philly, it won't be because of money. It will be because he's not an idiot.

 

[Rebels57]

Unless he inks before end of season/playoffs with Calgary, I think he will get a massive offer from the Devils.

he's a fit with that organization and they are not too far off from getting back into the playoff picture.

The Devils would be a lot smarter pick than the Flyers for Gaudreau. Their future isn't quite so bleak with the Hughes Brothers.

 

[Seanaconda]

You are the one calling it a discount. 10M for Barkov is a fair contract, same as Eichel who is a similar caliber player so 9-10M should be considered "fair" for Gaudreau. Also how is Stone "clearly inferior" when he was coming off an selke finalist season where he put up over a PPG before the trade and nearly 2 pts per game in the playoffs. The only player in the league to sign for 11M+ on an 8 year deal is McDavid. Kane and Toews both got 10.5M x 8 but they also won 3 cups

The barkov and stone ones were signed in way lower tax brakets if your logic is money over the term of the contract, same with kucherov who you brought up before . And I believe panarin and Tavares would have gotten 11x8s if they wanted to stay on the jackets and the isles

 

[blankall]

Absurd hypothetical.

The team is clicking better than ever with Monahan out of the lineup and Gaudreau is pacing for career highs across the board since they've been separated.

If Gaudreau prioritized playing with a friend over being on the best possible team he'd go to Philadelphia to play with his bestie Kevin Hayes.

There's just no world where Tre or Johnny value Monahan's... presence over retaining Tkachuk, Mangi or Kylington.

To add to this. The Flames have had many of Gaudreau's friends on the team, who were here, it didn't work out and then they were gone. See Buddy Robinson and Bill Arnold. I really don't see it as the players feeling betrayed by Gaudreau when things don't work out with the organization. It's the exact opposite. These players are being given chances they otherwise wouldn't due to their association with Gaudreau, and they're likely grateful.

Monahan, due to playing with Gaudreau, was able to sign a relatively large contract as is likely set financially for life. If things aren't working out with the Flames, then he has to look elsewhere. If he can't find a job anywhere else in the NHL, that's 100% on him. It may be injuries, but if that's the case, Monahan is a lot luckier than most players who's careers get derailed by injuries. He signed, and collected on almost all, of the $44,625,000 contract before injuries set in.

Gaudreau may fight to keep Monahan on the team, but he's got to realize that the team cannot work with that contract on the team. I do not see Monahan leaving affecting Gaudreau's decision to stay in any way.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

To add to this. The Flames have had many of Gaudreau's friends on the team, who were here, it didn't work out and then they were gone. See Buddy Robinson and Bill Arnold. I really don't see it as the players feeling betrayed by Gaudreau when things don't work out with the organization. It's the exact opposite. These players are being given chances they otherwise wouldn't due to their association with Gaudreau, and they're likely grateful.

Monahan, due to playing with Gaudreau, was able to sign a relatively large contract as is likely set financially for life. If things aren't working out with the Flames, then he has to look elsewhere. If he can't find a job anywhere else in the NHL, that's 100% on him. It may be injuries, but if that's the case, Monahan is a lot luckier than most players who's careers get derailed by injuries. He signed, and collected on almost all, of the $44,625,000 contract before injuries set in.

Gaudreau may fight to keep Monahan on the team, but he's got to realize that the team cannot work with that contract on the team. I do not see Monahan leaving affecting Gaudreau's decision to stay in any way.

If Monahan ever has money trouble it could only be due to gross negligence from either himself or his representatives.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Whether it's with Calgary or somewhere else it is going to be 8 figures. Not many players are capable of carrying an offense like Johnny is. I think it'll age just fine too, Gaudreau's game isn't built on physical traits that diminish with age. It's all vision and hockey IQ. Great playmakers often age much better than goalscorers.

 

[blankall]

If Monahan ever has money trouble it could only be due to gross negligence from either himself or his representatives.

Monahan still has 1 big payment of about $3+ million (after taxes, agents/escrow fees, etc.) coming his way. Even if he's totally F-ed up his financial situation, he should be able to set up a pretty comfortable life on that alone.

I do feel bad for Monahan, but at the end of the day the team is a business, and that business can't operate properly with $6 million in dead cap. I'd love it if there was a way to keep Monahan on the books for about $2-3 million next year. Even then, he may just not have a role on the team anymore.

 

[blankall]

Whether it's with Calgary or somewhere else it is going to be 8 figures. Not many players are capable of carrying an offense like Johnny is. I think it'll age just fine too, Gaudreau's game isn't built on physical traits that diminish with age. It's all vision and hockey IQ. Great playmakers often age much better than goalscorers.

Gaudreau was also a very late bloomer and seems relatively injury free. Gaudreau, just now, seems like he's coming into his own strength wise. The Flames should throw 8 at him. Barring injury, the first 4-6 years he'll be at his peak. After that, he'll still be a great player due to the nature of his game.

 

[SnS]

Chuck Fletcher is entering the room…..

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

The barkov and stone ones were signed in way lower tax brakets if your logic is money over the term of the contract, same with kucherov who you brought up before . And I believe panarin and Tavares would have gotten 11x8s if they wanted to stay on the jackets and the isles

Alberta has the lowest tax bracket in Canada and they are all paid in USD, after conversion they technically make more money in Alberta right now so that is not a good argument. What you believe about Panarin and Tavares is not reality though and you can't prove it, the only thing you could possibly prove is that San Jose offered Tavares 12x7 and he turned it down

 

[TheHudlinator]

Absurd hypothetical.

The team is clicking better than ever with Monahan out of the lineup and Gaudreau is pacing for career highs across the board since they've been separated.

If Gaudreau prioritized playing with a friend over being on the best possible team he'd go to Philadelphia to play with his bestie Kevin Hayes.

There's just no world where Tre or Johnny value Monahan's... presence over retaining Tkachuk, Mangi or Kylington.

My point was he might be willing to take a bit of a discount to keep all of them and his bestie

 

[McVespa99]

8 years at 11 million
Same for Tkachuk