I'm pretty sure every team in the league would take Barkov over Gaudreau in a heartbeat. I highly doubt Johnny gets 10Mx8 let alone more than that
You literally name one bargain contract and you know barkov took a slight discount. For one barkov i can raise you panarin, Tavares, marner, Matthews. You think JG should get paid less than these guys
None of those players signed 8 year deals, and 2 of those 4 players were under 23. Those aren't comparable at all unless Gaudreau walks
Yea they are under 23 so their bloat contracts even has rfa years, its not helping. 8 years is a bargain chip where if you offered 8 yrs you can probably get tavares contract down to 10/10.5, no the same total value but over 8 years that you seem to believe.
I mean not really the guy has been through so many surgeries, Gaudreau can trust Sutter and still think with a real offseason his best friend can rebound and be an effective player. It would also be in the Flames advantage to get Gaudreau to agree to a discount on a 8 year deal for 1 year for Monahan to try and rebound
So basically you are speculating with zero basis yet when I provide a good example like Barkov, or Mark Stone (top 5 RW in the entire league) they don't count because they took discounts. Why Is Gaudreau not allowed to take a discount to be on a winning team too?
Im the one with 0 basis, you are the saying why cant JG take a discount. Why would i expect anyone to take a discount? If he takes one great, but why would i expected anyone to leave money on the table? Stone who came off a clearly inferior season got 9.5m doesnt help your case. And you know damn well you were arguing less than 10 for 8 years is fair value, not a discount contract. I gave you comparable, pararin and Tavares and you act like that 8th yr is the be all end all and somehow turned whats supposed to be an advantage to the home town team into a disadvantage thru your amazing negotiations
His birthday is in August and will turn 29. An 8 year deal would be 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, and 36. Pretty sure someone even said 38 earlier in the thread. 36 isn’t very old especially for a player who plays with almost no contact in his game. I’d say Flames give him 8x10 no problem.
You are the one calling it a discount. 10M for Barkov is a fair contract, same as Eichel who is a similar caliber player so 9-10M should be considered "fair" for Gaudreau. Also how is Stone "clearly inferior" when he was coming off an selke finalist season where he put up over a PPG before the trade and nearly 2 pts per game in the playoffs. The only player in the league to sign for 11M+ on an 8 year deal is McDavid. Kane and Toews both got 10.5M x 8 but they also won 3 cups
Selke vs hart, i wonder which one is more impressive. Lindholm is gonna be a finalist for the selke, you tell me whose better. Eichel? The one where it was hes 2nd contract that bought out a bunch of RFA years? Might as well use Drais contract as a comparable then. When Tavares are making 11 and rfa eichel and Matthews at 10.5+, you damn right barkov is on a slight discount. So for ufa contract you have stone, barkov, Tavares, panarin, given that JG is literally 3rd in scoring and the most important player on the team thats a cup contender, hes worth 10-11. Stop bring up the 8th yr like its so valuable when you arent even willing to pay for it. offer 11x7 if you think thats equivalent to 9.6x8 then and screw the 8th year. Believe it or not, the actual comparable offer to 11x7 is 10/10.5x8.
You know I cant wait to see how poorly your posts age, you keep trying to compare 5-7 year deals to 8 year deals yet when I give examples of multiple 8 year deals you dismiss them as all bad examples or outliers. I'm done debating this with you as I could have a more productive conversation with a wall. See you in 4-5 months
Says the genius that thinks 11mx7 is matched by 9.6mx8. arent you the cutest. Btw you gave 2, if you think JG isnt better than stone at when he signed the contract then its even more lol worthy
It's odd how you complain that he dismisses all your contracts you list, which arent comparable, and then just turn around and dismiss his.
7 x 11.6 mil = $74.5 mil
Because I provided legitimate reason on why his comparisons made no sense whereas his reason for the ones I provided was "well they took discounts so they don't count"
