Speculation: Gaudreau seeking $8M annually on new deal with Flames -- Pt. 2

[Curufinwe]

ovechkin back when he signed I bet it was worth higher than what 8 million is now.

But good lord I can't believe you guys signed Iginla for 7 mill a year when the cap was at 39 million !

18 percent of your cap and now you guys are being so cheap 8 mill is like 11 percent of your cap iginlas cap hit today would be almost 13 mill a year.

Oh and ovechkins cap hit was just under 19% of the cap ceiling when he signed his contract. The max being 20%

Yeah, Ovechkin's cap hit under this season's cap would be $13,840,800.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/alex-ovechkin

 

[tmurfin]

ovechkin back when he signed I bet it was worth higher than what 8 million is now.

But good lord I can't believe you guys signed Iginla for 7 mill a year when the cap was at 39 million !

18 percent of your cap and now you guys are being so cheap 8 mill is like 11 percent of your cap iginlas cap hit today would be almost 13 mill a year.

Oh and ovechkins cap hit was just under 19% of the cap ceiling when he signed his contract. The max being 20%

Leverage. You get paid by what leverage you have. It's not being cheap, he's still gonna get the biggest contract ever for anyone in his situation.

 

[MardyBum]

I'd give him 7x7 without blinking.

 

[King In The North]

I'd give him 7x7 without blinking.

Who wouldn't?

 

[King In The North]

ovechkin back when he signed I bet it was worth higher than what 8 million is now.

But good lord I can't believe you guys signed Iginla for 7 mill a year when the cap was at 39 million !

18 percent of your cap and now you guys are being so cheap 8 mill is like 11 percent of your cap iginlas cap hit today would be almost 13 mill a year.

Oh and ovechkins cap hit was just under 19% of the cap ceiling when he signed his contract. The max being 20%

Kind of right but you also left out that he signed an extension after the 2006-2007 season. The year's salary cap was $50.3 million. So closer to 14%.

 

[viper0220]

I'd give him 7x7 without blinking.

This is what the Flames are offering him but his agent wants $8mill/7years.

 

[deckercky]

This is what the Flames are offering him but his agent wants $8mill/7years.

Then you blink a few times, and try to meet at the middle ground while pointing to Tarasenko.

 

[King In The North]

Then you blink a few times, and try to meet at the middle ground while pointing to Tarasenko.

Wow, it's almost like this is what they're trying to do.

 

[tmurfin]

I'd actually bet Gross wants at minimum 7.5, but there's a lot of pressure on Tre to keep it at 7 or just under.

 

[Some Other Flame]

This is what the Flames are offering him but his agent wants $8mill/7years.

Flames are only reportedly offering 6.4M on an 8 year deal. Insulting to be honest for a player of Gaudreau's calibre.

 

[tmurfin]

Flames are only reportedly offering 6.4M on an 8 year deal. Insulting to be honest for a player of Gaudreau's calibre.

Huh? Says who. Freidman said that number, but it was most likely a starting point. Basically saying "If Gaudreau's camp wanted 8+, it's only because the Flames offered 6.4."

That's how negotiations work.

 

[King In The North]

Flames are only reportedly offering 6.4M on an 8 year deal. Insulting to be honest for a player of Gaudreau's calibre.

I guess people don't know this by now but Treliving's camp has been pretty tight lipped on contracts, trades, etc. So I'd guess that's not the number they're playing hardball on.

 

[InfinityIggy]

I guess people don't know this by now but Treliving's camp has been pretty tight lipped on contracts, trades, etc. So...

You would think people would have learned from the Gio negotiations.

 

[Snakepit]

Isn't this just Gross' MO? He always seems to wait until the last second. Even when Calgary signed him the first time

 

[Some Other Flame]

Huh? Says who. Freidman said that number, but it was most likely a starting point. Basically saying "If Gaudreau's camp wanted 8+, it's only because the Flames offered 6.4."

That's how negotiations work.

He also went on to say that the Flames are getting pressured from around league to use Gaudreau's lack of leverage against him. The only reason a deal hasn't been signed yet is because the Flames are taking a ridiculous hardline stance against their best forward.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

ovechkin back when he signed I bet it was worth higher than what 8 million is now.

But good lord I can't believe you guys signed Iginla for 7 mill a year when the cap was at 39 million !

18 percent of your cap and now you guys are being so cheap 8 mill is like 11 percent of your cap iginlas cap hit today would be almost 13 mill a year.

Oh and ovechkins cap hit was just under 19% of the cap ceiling when he signed his contract. The max being 20%

Ovechkin's contract was huge when he signed it (still is), and was a massive exception to the general structuring of NHL contracts since he had already won the Art Ross, Hart, Calder, Rocket, and Lester Pearson (now Ted Lindsay) trophies. He completely swept the NHL awards the year before he was re-signed. It was also like 15 years long. If Gaudreau had that same option and said he wanted to sign for 8 mil/15 years, then sure, the Flames would take it in a heartbeat. But that's not the case.

The Flames signed Iginla for 7 mil a year when he was in his late 20s, had spent time as arguably the best forward in the NHL, and had already been making 7 mil/year before the implementation of the cap. Completely different scenario from Gaudreau.

 

[Hockey Nightmare]

He also went on to say that the Flames are getting pressured from around league to use Gaudreau's lack of leverage against him. The only reason a deal hasn't been signed yet is because the Flames are taking a ridiculous hardline stance against their best forward.

Why should the flames care about what the rest of the league thinks.

 

[tsanuri]

Why should the flames care about what the rest of the league thinks.

Because it will drive contracts up even higher, including the ones they'll have to sign. The NHL is one business with 31 franchises. And they want to control costs especially on players in this situation.

 

[frag2]

Who wouldn't?

I dunno...maybe Calgary?

 

[Mypetrobot]

Is a player with no bargaining rights can get 7x7 or 8x7 then what will an RFA get that can goto arb or get offer sheeted get?

 

[tmurfin]

He also went on to say that the Flames are getting pressured from around league to use Gaudreau's lack of leverage against him. The only reason a deal hasn't been signed yet is because the Flames are taking a ridiculous hardline stance against their best forward.

Yes, and from the sounds of it, the pressure is to have it around 7 if not just under. Which is a lot better than 6.4, give in and pay him 7.5+ and next thing you know we have Bennett sitting out to get 6.5+ etc. Leverage is the name of the game, no doubt in my mind the Flames are willing to give him 7.

 

[vannuckles]

I dunno...maybe Calgary?

You think he would jump at a chance to sign in Calgary. They seem to want him pretty bad.

 

[King In The North]

I dunno...maybe Calgary?

Calgary has no problem with that.

 

[King In The North]

You think he would jump at a chance to sign in Calgary. They seem to want him pretty bad.

Yeah RFAs have been jumping at chances to sign with their teams...

 

[vannuckles]

:

yeah rfas have been jumping at chances to sign with their teams...