Proposal: Gaudreau for Taylor Hall

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

No questions asked.

thank you for letting me know to never take your opinion seriously ever again. appreciate it!

 

[Tedenboozled]

No questions asked.

Is that because he's a favourite player of yours or because you legitimately think that's a good organisational move? Serious question

 

[goonybird]

No questions asked.

Wat. No.

 

[VoidCreature]

No questions asked.

Dear God. That's Mike Milbury level.

 

[Eric Sachs]

No questions asked.

Surprised you wouldn't throw in McLeod too for a 5th.

0/10

 

[CerebralGenesis]

what in the world...

 

[McSuper]

The premise that Hall = Johnny is totally absurd.

I'd take the guy with high IQ and elite offensive skill over the physical beast with no toolbox 10/10 times. If Hall was 3/4 the player people say he is, he wouldn't be traded for a player like Adam Larsson, a top 30 dman at best.

So the Oilers should keep doing what doesn't work ?

Rumours this summer were

The Wild ask for RNH for Dumba
The NJD would not budge off of Hall for Larsson

Both of these have 2 things in common . The had the Oilers bent over a barrel and was going to be an enjoyable thing for the Oilers .

Also people forget that Larsson was in the running for first over all in his draft year . D takes longer to develop . Plus Larsson had the worst d zone starts in the NHL yet keep his head above water . I ask a question in one of my Hall posting as I was all for trading him . I ask whats his value in a RHD . If Hall is a top 5 LW in the game what does that = in a D . I thought around top 20 . Some others thought around top 25 either way Larsson is close to that .

I also said I thing JG is slightly better then Hall but if he is truly seeking 8 million I take Hall all day long at 6 million . JG is not 25% better then Hall . I know the contracts are from a difference cap but the fact is NJD has to pay Hall 6 or JG 8 . Hall is worth his contract and is a better value considering cap

 

[Johnnybegood13]

So the Oilers should keep doing what doesn't work ?

Rumours this summer were

The Wild ask for RNH for Dumba
The NJD would not budge off of Hall for Larsson

Both of these have 2 things in common . The had the Oilers bent over a barrel and was going to be an enjoyable thing for the Oilers .

Also people forget that Larsson was in the running for first over all in his draft year . D takes longer to develop . Plus Larsson had the worst d zone starts in the NHL yet keep his head above water . I ask a question in one of my Hall posting as I was all for trading him . I ask whats his value in a RHD . If Hall is a top 5 LW in the game what does that = in a D . I thought around top 20 . Some others thought around top 25 either way Larsson is close to that .

I also said I thing JG is slightly better then Hall but if he is truly seeking 8 million I take Hall all day long at 6 million . JG is not 25% better then Hall . I know the contracts are from a difference cap but the fact is NJD has to pay Hall 6 or JG 8 . Hall is worth his contract and is a better value considering cap

Hall signed his deal with a 60m cap, pro-rated that's 7.3m, which is probably close to where Johnny will end up.

How much better Gaudreau is over Hall is subjective and based on needs.

 

[Dertell]

No questions asked.

I want to quote this post too!

 

[Kilted Yaksmen]

The premise that Hall = Johnny is totally absurd.

I'd take the guy with high IQ and elite offensive skill over the physical beast with no toolbox 10/10 times. If Hall was 3/4 the player people say he is, he wouldn't be traded for a player like Adam Larsson, a top 30 dman at best.

Larsson isn't even top 60. My hand would literally cramp up trying to type out all the names ahead of him, I really hope EDM fans aren't expecting that. He's a very uncreative yet serviceable 4D with limited upside to his game IMO. The offensive upside he once possessed has evaporated, there is a pretty big book of evidence proving that at this point. It's not 2011 any more, you need to elsewhere if you're looking for a guy with top pairing potential.

At this point he is what he is. A serviceable top 4 guy who had the luxury playing with a true top 30 Dman in Andy Greene. Luckily for the Oilers, Klefbom does look pretty good. He definitely has top pairing potential... maybe he will be the next guy to make Larsson look better than he really is?

That was one of the most inexcusably bad trades I've ever seen. Just brutal. Even if you want to rationalize the Lucic signing and Puljuarvi pick to make yourself feel better, it doesn't change the fact that they should've got so much more, and failing that, just find another, less expensive way to acquire an average top 4 guy. Easily the worst trade since the Phaneuf to Toronto deal.

 

[yababy]

Id be quite happy if Larsson is a Dan Hamhuis type. Not flashy but effective shut down guy with high hockey IQ

 

[yababy]

Larsson isn't even top 60. My hand would literally cramp up trying to type out all the names ahead of him, I really hope EDM fans aren't expecting that. He's a very uncreative yet serviceable 4D with limited upside to his game IMO. The offensive upside he once possessed has evaporated, there is a pretty big book of evidence proving that at this point. It's not 2011 any more, you need to elsewhere if you're looking for a guy with top pairing potential.

At this point he is what he is. A serviceable top 4 guy who had the luxury playing with a true top 30 Dman in Andy Greene. Luckily for the Oilers, Klefbom does look pretty good. He definitely has top pairing potential... maybe he will be the next guy to make Larsson look better than he really is?

That was one of the most inexcusably bad trades I've ever seen. Just brutal. Even if you want to rationalize the Lucic signing and Puljuarvi pick to make yourself feel better, it doesn't change the fact that they should've got so much more, and failing that, just find another, less expensive way to acquire an average top 4 guy. Easily the worst trade since the Phaneuf to Toronto deal.

Im thinking the Larsson/Hall deal is meant as a vindictive trade to punish the Bruins for the equally bad trade with the Flames when Oilers wanted Hamilton. Go play against Taylor Hall for another 8 games/year...and remember Dougie Hamilton when you do.

 

[Nocashstyle]

Larsson isn't even top 60. My hand would literally cramp up trying to type out all the names ahead of him, I really hope EDM fans aren't expecting that. He's a very uncreative yet serviceable 4D with limited upside to his game IMO. The offensive upside he once possessed has evaporated, there is a pretty big book of evidence proving that at this point. It's not 2011 any more, you need to elsewhere if you're looking for a guy with top pairing potential.

At this point he is what he is. A serviceable top 4 guy who had the luxury playing with a true top 30 Dman in Andy Greene. Luckily for the Oilers, Klefbom does look pretty good. He definitely has top pairing potential... maybe he will be the next guy to make Larsson look better than he really is?

That was one of the most inexcusably bad trades I've ever seen. Just brutal. Even if you want to rationalize the Lucic signing and Puljuarvi pick to make yourself feel better, it doesn't change the fact that they should've got so much more, and failing that, just find another, less expensive way to acquire an average top 4 guy. Easily the worst trade since the Phaneuf to Toronto deal.

You call Andy Greene a true top 30 guy and Larsson not even top 60? As someone who actually watched the Devils...last year had Larsson surpassed Greene as the Devils best defenseman.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Larsson isn't even top 60. My hand would literally cramp up trying to type out all the names ahead of him, I really hope EDM fans aren't expecting that. He's a very uncreative yet serviceable 4D with limited upside to his game IMO. The offensive upside he once possessed has evaporated, there is a pretty big book of evidence proving that at this point. It's not 2011 any more, you need to elsewhere if you're looking for a guy with top pairing potential.

At this point he is what he is. A serviceable top 4 guy who had the luxury playing with a true top 30 Dman in Andy Greene. Luckily for the Oilers, Klefbom does look pretty good. He definitely has top pairing potential... maybe he will be the next guy to make Larsson look better than he really is?

That was one of the most inexcusably bad trades I've ever seen. Just brutal. Even if you want to rationalize the Lucic signing and Puljuarvi pick to make yourself feel better, it doesn't change the fact that they should've got so much more, and failing that, just find another, less expensive way to acquire an average top 4 guy. Easily the worst trade since the Phaneuf to Toronto deal.

name me 60 better DMen than Adam Larsson currently in the NHL

I will wait.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I obviously was overshooting there just to make a point of how little I think of Hall but why on earth would nobody be interested in Bouma? Unbelievable shot blocker, hard hitter, backchecks well, and is a warrior that never quits. Obviously his value is not worth Hall yet I would rather have him on my team then a guy that thinks only offense, has poor hockey IQ, and absolutely disappeared on his team the last quarter of the season once his team was pretty much out of it.

Wait. In what way, world, or universe is Hall less desirable to have on your team than Bouma? Come on man, try and post serious.

 

[workedforme]

Larsson isn't even top 60. My hand would literally cramp up trying to type out all the names ahead of him, I really hope EDM fans aren't expecting that. He's a very uncreative yet serviceable 4D with limited upside to his game IMO. The offensive upside he once possessed has evaporated, there is a pretty big book of evidence proving that at this point. It's not 2011 any more, you need to elsewhere if you're looking for a guy with top pairing potential.

At this point he is what he is. A serviceable top 4 guy who had the luxury playing with a true top 30 Dman in Andy Greene. Luckily for the Oilers, Klefbom does look pretty good. He definitely has top pairing potential... maybe he will be the next guy to make Larsson look better than he really is?

That was one of the most inexcusably bad trades I've ever seen. Just brutal. Even if you want to rationalize the Lucic signing and Puljuarvi pick to make yourself feel better, it doesn't change the fact that they should've got so much more, and failing that, just find another, less expensive way to acquire an average top 4 guy. Easily the worst trade since the Phaneuf to Toronto deal.

Probably the worst post since the Phaneuf deal too. Look forward to that list.

 

[MoonDragn]

Larsson isn't even top 60. My hand would literally cramp up trying to type out all the names ahead of him, I really hope EDM fans aren't expecting that. He's a very uncreative yet serviceable 4D with limited upside to his game IMO. The offensive upside he once possessed has evaporated, there is a pretty big book of evidence proving that at this point. It's not 2011 any more, you need to elsewhere if you're looking for a guy with top pairing potential.

At this point he is what he is. A serviceable top 4 guy who had the luxury playing with a true top 30 Dman in Andy Greene. Luckily for the Oilers, Klefbom does look pretty good. He definitely has top pairing potential... maybe he will be the next guy to make Larsson look better than he really is?

That was one of the most inexcusably bad trades I've ever seen. Just brutal. Even if you want to rationalize the Lucic signing and Puljuarvi pick to make yourself feel better, it doesn't change the fact that they should've got so much more, and failing that, just find another, less expensive way to acquire an average top 4 guy. Easily the worst trade since the Phaneuf to Toronto deal.

Look at this analysis:

http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...wizard-of-goal-prevention-or-a-very-lucky-man

 

[DJJones]

Look at this analysis:

http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...wizard-of-goal-prevention-or-a-very-lucky-man

So give him a legit partner, a vezina level goaltender, and change your whole system to the trap nonsense and you too can be a horrible team haha. Game against New Jersey was the the only game I shut off last year.

You'd think after the Fayne disaster you guys would have gone for Greene, not his partner again.

 

[MoonDragn]

So give him a legit partner, a vezina level goaltender, and change your whole system to the trap nonsense and you too can be a horrible team haha.

You'd think after the Fayne disaster you guys would have gone for Greene, not his partner again.

Yet compared to Greene, Larsson had the better numbers. It was more apparent last season. Larsson was the better of the two.

No doubt his numbers may not be as good on an Oiler's team, but he does have Klefbom as his partner so maybe there will be more offense.

On the other hand, Greene was the better skater out of the two. Maybe NJ wanted to go with faster players because they got rid of everyone who was a slow skater on the team.

 

[DJJones]

Yet compared to Greene, Larsson had the better numbers. It was more apparent last season. Larsson was the better of the two.

No doubt his numbers may not be as good on an Oiler's team, but he does have Klefbom as his partner so maybe there will be more offense.

On the other hand, Greene was the better skater out of the two. Maybe NJ wanted to go with faster players because they got rid of everyone who was a slow skater on the team.

Assuming they would have given Greene up no problem but why would the Oilers want a 33 year old.

I'm just shocked by the mindset switch from Oilers fans. Always been one of more analytical fan bases and you are completely throwing out Corsi for Goals Against. I don't care if you are Drew Doughty, there is only so much effect one player can have on goals against.

 

[goonybird]

Someone just got so mad online that they brought up the trap to tear down a young defenceman and called a team horrible (despite his efforts I presume?) in the same sentence

 

[DJJones]

Someone just got so mad online that they brought up the trap to tear down a young defenceman and called a team horrible (despite his efforts I presume?) in the same sentence

Just a ragaholic I guess.

All glory to the trap!

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

So give him a legit partner, a vezina level goaltender, and change your whole system to the trap nonsense and you too can be a horrible team haha. Game against New Jersey was the the only game I shut off last year.

You'd think after the Fayne disaster you guys would have gone for Greene, not his partner again.

if you think that the Devils play a trapping system, you have no clue what you're talking about to be honest

that is not Hynes' system.

old stereotypes die hard, I guess.

 

[DJJones]

if you think that the Devils play a trapping system, you have no clue what you're talking about to be honest

that is not Hynes' system.

old stereotypes die hard, I guess.

It's New Jersey playing defensive hockey. It's a trap system, I don't care if it's not the traditional trap.

"Low scoring, low event hockey" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Shero just got Hall, Doubt he has any interest in moving him any time soon. He would at least keep him a year or two. So doubt that either club makes the move tight now.