GDT: Game 68: Columbus vs. Carolina | 3/18 7PM EDT
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Has he been asked to change his game? I need some context to these comments before I'm willing to make sweeping declarations about Cam's attitude/play.
Meantime, I believe he's been off his game. I could see the logic in playing him "through it" or sitting him down, especially given the team is not without the depth to cover it. Richards has obviously chosen the latter.
I think it's less of wanting guys who can hit and more guys who can absorb a hit and not be knocked off the puck as easily as Cam has been lately. I'm concerned that he's being scratched for the effect it will have on him, not for how it may deplete the team. He's got the tools but he hasn't been putting it together lately and as the "joke" goes, these games are critical. I feel for him, especially after his shootout attempt against the Sharks, but he isn't helping the team. And maybe there are deeper reasons than his lack of goals, like how he's responding to this rough stretch.
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Tonight's games to keep an eye out for
Boston vs New Jersey Devils- Root for the Bruins because the Devils are only 2 and a half games back from the Blue Jackets
New York Rangers vs Ottawa- Root for the Senators since the Rangers are tied with the CBJ's
Toronto vs Detroit- Root for the Maple Leafs in case we get knocked out of the top 3 spots.
Where am I going wrong?
Boston vs New Jersey Devils- Root for the Bruins because the Devils are only 2 and a half games back from the Blue Jackets
New York Rangers vs Ottawa- Root for the Senators since the Rangers are tied with the CBJ's
Toronto vs Detroit- Root for the Maple Leafs in case we get knocked out of the top 3 spots.
Where am I going wrong?
Fro
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this is some of the context to start (read bottom up)
Shawn Mitchell @smitchcd 2h
Atkinson cont..."Whenever I get my opportunity I’m going to work as hard as I can and play my game. I’m not going to change my game.... #CBJ
Shawn Mitchell @smitchcd 2h
Atkinson cont ",,I’m not going to go out and hit a million bodies. That’s not my style of play. But that’s what they like right now." #CBJ
Shawn Mitchell @smitchcd 2h
#CBJ Cam Atkinson: "It is what it is. You show up...and if you’re name’s up there you’re playing. If it’s not, you’re on the 5h line..(cont)
Shawn Mitchell @smitchcd 3h
#CBJ RW Cam Atkinson had no points, four shots and even rating in past two games. Appears he will be scratched again.
Shawn Mitchell @smitchcd 2h
Atkinson cont..."Whenever I get my opportunity I’m going to work as hard as I can and play my game. I’m not going to change my game.... #CBJ
Shawn Mitchell @smitchcd 2h
Atkinson cont ",,I’m not going to go out and hit a million bodies. That’s not my style of play. But that’s what they like right now." #CBJ
Shawn Mitchell @smitchcd 2h
#CBJ Cam Atkinson: "It is what it is. You show up...and if you’re name’s up there you’re playing. If it’s not, you’re on the 5h line..(cont)
Shawn Mitchell @smitchcd 3h
#CBJ RW Cam Atkinson had no points, four shots and even rating in past two games. Appears he will be scratched again.
Fro
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you're right...per sportsclubstats
Us winning adds 4.1% to our chances
BOS winning adds 1%
TOR winning adds .8%
OTT winning adds .8%
ANA winning adds .5%
CHI winning adds .6%
COL winning adds .3%
moves us above 90% chance to be in...opposite happens, we lose 12.3%
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All part of development and learning. Let's not make up our minds just yet on what Cam is or isn't capable of. ie, the 'useless' comment.
Cam and Gaborik have literally nothing in common. Bit of a stretch there.
Regarding the comments he made, we don't really know that he's been asked to change his game. I suppose if he's being defiant he'll learn sooner or later who'll lose that battle and he'll get shipped out. I hope they can arrive at a middle ground though. I'm sure there were some tough days with Joey as well, but now that they're on the other side of it, all are better - the team and the player.
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It's hard to tell. If he doesn't see any issues with his game that need fixing, that is a problem, but if he is talking like he isn't going to go out and be a banger, that is a little different.
JacketFanInFL
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I like the call to sit him. Teams are getting physical fast and furious and Cam's been getting thrown off the puck like a rag doll. Space closes up this time of year and that's what Cam needs to excel. Plus his attitude sucks on the whole thing. He can keep standing his ground in not changing his game, but he will continue to sit.
Speed is only good if you have the muscle to get guys off you. See Calvert on that assist the other night.
Speed is only good if you have the muscle to get guys off you. See Calvert on that assist the other night.
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When is the last time Cam (or Calvert for that matter) had a clean breakaway? That used to happen once every 3 or 4 games. I remember when Cam used to fight through players, while he had to puck, and get a quality change on the goal tender. Haven't seen that in a while.
Part of his offensive games are glaringly absent. Without that his defensive zone play isn't good enough to justify his existence (unlike Calvert's).
Like the poster above me is alluding to; these games may simply be too rich for Cam's current state of development.
Part of his offensive games are glaringly absent. Without that his defensive zone play isn't good enough to justify his existence (unlike Calvert's).
Like the poster above me is alluding to; these games may simply be too rich for Cam's current state of development.
Jive Pawnbroker
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Richards has more than earned my respect with regards to how he is handling playing time given the results season to date, especially since January 1. I think lately that he's been doing a damn good job of that, especially his moves before the Nashville game getting Tropp and Comeau back in there.
Fro
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agreed...i'm still not fully on board with Richards, and I still don't believe he's the long term solution here (i.e. he's not Jarmo and JD's guy) but its hard to argue with the results he's getting with a lesser skilled team than some of those below us
You are not far off. I remember the days of Tyuts in the shootout. Was that Hitch? I've got it from a very reliable source (TR himself) that the next to go if it went to four shooters that game was PROUT.
(coffee with the coaches lol)
Yes, I'm sure he's being held out of the lineup because he doesn't body check enough.
If that was the case, I'm not sure Johansen would see a game again.
rocky7
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looks like Muller has the lines all changed again after a fiery practise. might what to have a look at our GDT...good luck with the post season guys. I've always like the Blue Jackets...
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I'm on board with every decision Richards makes until we start losing. If that means Cam isn't out there, so be it. He's still my favorite player and I'll still wear his jersey to the games no matter what, but it's about what's best for the team right now.
We have plenty of scoring without Cam, that's been proven, some of which comes from physical play along the boards. Comeau and Tropp bring additional physical play and energy, which Richards rightfully values more in a playoff race for a team that is doing fine in the scoring department. Like I said, until he makes a roster move that doesn't work, I'm not going to sit here and complain.
We have plenty of scoring without Cam, that's been proven, some of which comes from physical play along the boards. Comeau and Tropp bring additional physical play and energy, which Richards rightfully values more in a playoff race for a team that is doing fine in the scoring department. Like I said, until he makes a roster move that doesn't work, I'm not going to sit here and complain.
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Indeed it was. Think back to the game in Chicago where we clinched. It was Tyuts who won that shootout for us. Extra point we didn't really need to make it, but Tyutin usually proved himself very useful to Hitch in the shootout.
We have 1 goal in 3 of the last 5 games. We were rolling 4 scoring lines just two weeks ago, not anymore.
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I was being facetious, with how Ilove Zherdev likes Fedor so much. Yes I remember Hitch running Tyutin out there in several shootouts. Tyutin would try to mesmerize the goaltender with fast stickhandling and it worked a couple of times.
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As for the Atkinson scratch, I'm on board. What have you done for me lately is what is going on here. Also which players will give me the best chance to get the W, in Richard's mind.
What I see that Richards wants out of all of his lines is three forwards that can play the cycle game. Atkinson does not play a good cycle game. Cam is a better perimeter player than a grinding forward. Right or wrong on Richard's part, he is going with the bigger more physical lineup.
Richard's said yesterday after practice that Comeau was playing now that his two game suspension was up.
Tropp has brought energy and yes some offensive zone ability when he is in the lineup.
I would be surprised if Cam took these scratches laying down. That he is griping about is a good thing.
What I see that Richards wants out of all of his lines is three forwards that can play the cycle game. Atkinson does not play a good cycle game. Cam is a better perimeter player than a grinding forward. Right or wrong on Richard's part, he is going with the bigger more physical lineup.
Richard's said yesterday after practice that Comeau was playing now that his two game suspension was up.
Tropp has brought energy and yes some offensive zone ability when he is in the lineup.
I would be surprised if Cam took these scratches laying down. That he is griping about is a good thing.
