GDT: Game 63: Kings @ Avalanche - Dethroned - 7PM

[TruePowerSlave]

I strongly believe they should have treated this contention period from MacK’s breakout to this season as all ins. They had 2 seasons there where they had significant cap space and did nothing with it. I’m just glad they managed to actually do something last year.

Sums it up nicely.

The Avs have been fools not constantly going all in during their only window in decades. Soon it will end and that was that. This period should be remembered as a missed opportunity even with the one cup.

 

[Alex Jones]

Jost, Newhook, Kaut, Bowers. Avs scoring depth was supposed to be their young forwards, none of which turned out. Maybe Foudy or OO reverse the trend, but total lack of drafting screwed us.

 

[Chiarelli]

Kings are a playoff team so this is an auto L. 5-2 Kings.

This guy

 

[dahrougem2]

This whole Landeskog thing is getting blown completely out of f***ing proportion. Bednar was absolutely just talking about this season and playoffs. He's not gonna come back as f***ing Andrew Ladd.

How is it getting blown out of proportion? He has had two operations on his knee over the last calendar year. This was supposed to keep him out for 12 weeks. It's been what, 22 weeks? And he's still not close to returning and Bednar even said he'd be lying if he wasn't a bit concerned.

 

[sethro109]

Newhook facing 2nd line competition has been a disaster each time. If he’s there, the Avs concede that line big time and not just Compher bad… utterly caved in.

I still wouldn't mind giving it a go though. We're losing f***ing games anyways might as well start throwing shit at the wall and see if something sticks. Because Compher obviously is not the f***ing answer.

 

[The Kingslayer]

This guy

Sucks being right all the time.

 

[dahrougem2]

Jost, Newhook, Kaut, Bowers. Avs scoring depth was supposed to be their young forwards, none of which turned out. Maybe Foudy or OO reverse the trend, but total lack of drafting screwed us.

Hence why it's a colossal failure not trading that 1st round pick. The Avs can't draft worth a shit, there's zero reason to keep that pick and "reward" the amateur scouts for failure after failure.

That plus the last year of MacKinnon's contract and this season's TDL could not have gone any worse.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Jost, Newhook, Kaut, Bowers. Avs scoring depth was supposed to be their young forwards, none of which turned out. Maybe Foudy or OO reverse the trend, but total lack of drafting screwed us.

I don’t think it is helped by them being too patient, they waited until these guys lost all their value before moving them.

 

[Alienblood]

Unless Winnipeg suddenly figures things out, or Nashville goes on some remarkable run, they Avs will be playing Minnesota in round 1.

Oilers are going to finish 1st in the west and the Avs last wildcard or miss lol

 

[sethro109]

How is it getting blown out of proportion? He has had two operations on his knee over the last calendar year. This was supposed to keep him out for 12 weeks. It's been what, 22 weeks? And he's still not close to returning and Bednar even said he'd be lying if he wasn't a bit concerned.

He also said it wasn't the same injury form last year. If it was something that was reoccurring then I'd be more concerned, but it's not.

 

[dahrougem2]

He also said it wasn't the same injury form last year. If it was something that was reoccurring then I'd be more concerned, but it's not.

Even if it's not the same injury, the fact that it will basically take 2x as long to heal from this as it should have (if he's even 100% healed after 24 total weeks) is terrifying for his prospects of returning to full health.

Injuries and their recovery don't work that way. Something is wrong.

 

[Alienblood]

The good news is I think the East is going to clobber whoever comes out the west this season.

The Oil just took out the Bruins at home

 

[sethro109]

Even if it's not the same injury, the fact that it will basically take 2x as long to heal from this as it should have (if he's even 100% healed after 24 total weeks) is terrifying for his prospects of returning to full health.

Injuries and their recovery don't work that way. Something is wrong.

Are you implying that a player that had a setback on an injury never came back healthy again?

 

[cinchronicity]

MacK, G and Georgie should walk through the dressing room and slap every other player. Except Malgin and LoC.

Slap Toews twice, once for each goal for which he is wholly and completely responsible. ( Though 2 were also entirely on Bednar, so I am unsure how one slaps one's coach.)

 

[Alex Jones]

I don’t think it is helped by them being too patient, they waited until these guys lost all their value before moving them.

I think it's just that the Avs trust their scouting. If they like a guy they like a guy and they won't give that up easily. Helps them find value in players but also hurts them with being too loyal.

 

[Balthazar]

 

[NateTheGreat]

Nobody even knows if Landeskog will be healthy following his surgery let alone next season. You cannot bank on that.

MacKinnon is going to be making double the money next season, too. Manson is a year older. Compher/Rodrigues gone and likely replaced with worse players (even if Rodrigues stinks). Lack of NHL-ready prospects outside of J.L. Foudy who projects as a bottom six and more likely LOC type of player.

Shit is bleak. The Avs need to move on from one of Toews/Girard to help the forward corps and also need to move their 1st round pick for roster help.

An off-season will help Landeskog’s recovery not hurt it.

The Avs banked on Newhook and Rodrigues to be contributors this year and it hasn’t worked out. What if they make a trade involving Newhook and bring in a player similar to Erod’s contract that actually fits the team? Georgiev looks to be a true #1. EJ’s contract is off the books and won’t be relied upon. There are multiple things that you can do to a build around one of the best cores in the league.

 

[redacted]

Beyond the injury, Landy crossed 30… there’s always going to be some risk a player drops off. I’m in the camp of it being overblown, but there are legitimate reasons to be concerned. If he looks like crap in December… I’ll be very concerned. To me, it’s simply a wait and see.

 

[Alienblood]

Jost, Newhook, Kaut, Bowers. Avs scoring depth was supposed to be their young forwards, none of which turned out. Maybe Foudy or OO reverse the trend, but total lack of drafting screwed us.

Jost is playing well in Buffalo, we could use him right now not Eller

 

[dahrougem2]

Gotta disagree with Bednar on this one. I don't think the Avs played ok at all.

Are you implying that a player that had a setback on an injury never came back healthy again?

Did I say that?

 

[Vk1ing]

Can we put mack and rants back together. Atleast then we can be a 1 line team not whatever we were today lol

 

[redacted]

An off-season will help Landeskog’s recovery not hurt it.

The Avs banked on Newhook and Rodrigues to be contributors this year and it hasn’t worked out. What if they make a trade involving Newhook and bring in a player similar to Erod’s contract that actually fits the team? Georgiev looks to be a true #1. EJ’s contract is off the books and won’t be relied upon. There are multiple things that you can do to a build around one of the best cores in the league.

You’re not getting top 6 (maybe even 9) players (Avs need a few) for under 2m without giving up many 1sts. Just not the reality of the situation.

Avs have 13m to build out the roster and resign Byram. Even if the Avs found 3 ERods, they likely couldn’t fill the roster.

 

[sethro109]

Did I say that?

I didn't say that you said that. I asked if you were implying that. Because I see no reason to start ringing the bell for our Captains death.

 

[Alienblood]

He also said it wasn't the same injury form last year. If it was something that was reoccurring then I'd be more concerned, but it's not.

He said he didnt know if Landy would ever be the same again or elite anymore

 

[redacted]

Jost is playing well in Buffalo, we could use him right now not Eller

Jost is a 4th liner there and treading water. Eller, for all of his faults (he has many) is a better player today.