Post-Game Talk: Game #60 - The wheels come off - Ducks 5 BRUINS 3 F

[GloryDaze4877]

C. Miller just sucked, sucked, sucked tonight.

He had a rough night, although I feel like he takes a lot more **** for the same mistakes that some of the other D make (Carlo).

Also, if we were having a "Who Sucked More Contest" tonight, your boy Cehlarik would win by a mile. He was Awful with a Capital A.

His positioning was bad all night. On two of the goals (he was the LW) he and Pasta were about 5 feet apart holding hands and watching the play (on the RIGHT side). Pasta was partially to blame for not making a play, but at least he was on his side of the ice.

He also has some brutal TO's coming out of his own end. On one shift he turned it over twice in a 15 sec span on really bad passes and decisions, the second of which led to a good scoring chance for Getzlaf. On the PP he looked like he was forcing it and trying to make plays that weren't there (through people) instead of letting things open up.

All in all, not one to put in the scrapbook. I realize that he's young and there will be nights like this for all young players. However, it's also why I think the B's should be all over acquiring a guy like Landeskog if he's available for a non-crazy price. The outcome last night would have been completely different if you have a legit top 6 player like Landeskog with Krejci and Pasta, allowing Vatrano to stay with Spooner against a more favorable third line matchup.

 

[Glove Malfunction]

Why? He was terrible on a couple of those goals.

It's less about the commentary on Rask, and more because that particular poster is on Rask just about every single game. His hate for Rask has become a bit irrational at this point.

 

[Glove Malfunction]

Because Butch used it on the Marchand goalie interference "coaches challenge." He was right but asking these ****bag refs to police themselves is a waste of time. Jack Edwards has said "every goal is reviewed by Toronto" but why not just leave it at that and have TO look at each and every goal and take the final word out of these buffoons hands!?!?!!!!!!

I know that the B's blew it with non saves by Rask and ugly mistakes throughout the lineup but they really don't need poor officiating pushing them into the grave too.

This is exactly why I think something as subjective as goalie interference needs to be taken out of the hands of the guys who made the call in the first place. They seem to be less interested in changing the call when it's the right thing to do and more interested in saving face by sticking with their original call. Goaltender interference is call so inconsistently nowadays, I just don't trust the guys on the ice to change their own calls, even when it's warranted.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

vatrano looking great out there by the way.

if we can get a solid RW for him and spooner , we will have a deadly top 3 lines.

I would rather see them pick up a better than solid LW for Krejci and Pasta, and then slide Cehlarik back to the 3rd line on the RW (where I believe he typically plays), where he will be seeing more favorable matchups for the most part.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

He had a rough night, although I feel like he takes a lot more **** for the same mistakes that some of the other D make (Carlo).

Also, if we were having a "Who Sucked More Contest" tonight, your boy Cehlarik would win by a mile. He was Awful with a Capital A.

His positioning was bad all night. On two of the goals (he was the LW) he and Pasta were about 5 feet apart holding hands and watching the play (on the RIGHT side). Pasta was partially to blame for not making a play, but at least he was on his side of the ice.

He also has some brutal TO's coming out of his own end. On one shift he turned it over twice in a 15 sec span on really bad passes and decisions, the second of which led to a good scoring chance for Getzlaf. On the PP he looked like he was forcing it and trying to make plays that weren't there (through people) instead of letting things open up.

All in all, not one to put in the scrapbook. I realize that he's young and there will be nights like this for all young players. However, it's also why I think the B's should be all over acquiring a guy like Landeskog if he's available for a non-crazy price. The outcome last night would have been completely different if you have a legit top 6 player like Landeskog with Krejci and Pasta, allowing Vatrano to stay with Spooner against a more favorable third line matchup.

totally agree 100% regarding Cehlarik and why Landeskog would have helped, but let's say it was Carlo that went to bring Landeskog back? Then we miss his goal & lose anyway

 

[GloryDaze4877]

This is exactly why I think something as subjective as goalie interference needs to be taken out of the hands of the guys who made the call in the first place. They seem to be less interested in changing the call when it's the right thing to do and more interested in saving face by sticking with their original call. Goaltender interference is call so inconsistently nowadays, I just don't trust the guys on the ice to change their own calls, even when it's warranted.

Bingo! He has Bingo.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

totally agree 100% regarding Cehlarik and why Landeskog would have helped, but let's say it was Carlo that went to bring Landeskog back? Then we miss his goal & lose anyway

I think the B's could acquire him without Carlo, but who really knows what Sakic was actually asking for (and if it is worth it)?

 

[bobbyorr04]

This is exactly why I think something as subjective as goalie interference needs to be taken out of the hands of the guys who made the call in the first place. They seem to be less interested in changing the call when it's the right thing to do and more interested in saving face by sticking with their original call. Goaltender interference is call so inconsistently nowadays, I just don't trust the guys on the ice to change their own calls, even when it's warranted.

Agree.

 

[sarge88]

I saw a team that really sucked in there own end ,Carlo was the least of there worries,don't see how Landeskog is going to help unless he can play D.

To be fair....Cehlarik had at least 3 bad turnovers -- none resulting directly in goals against, but definitely caused extended time in the defensive zone.

A veteran like Landeskog, is much less likely to make those errors.


Not giving up on the kid, because he looks like a keeper, but that's the difference between having been around the block and playing your second road game in the NHL.

 

[bruinmann77]

hate losing hate the refs tonight but this team needs to bounce back or else they most likely will be hitting the links early again

 

[caz16]

So, not having seen the game, the Bruins deserved to win and the score should have been closer to 4-3 Bruins if the goals had been handled correctly by the refs?

 

[SPLBRUIN]

This is BS.

I get why they take away the time-out (to prevent abuse) but if the play is wrong, it's wrong.

This one isn't even debatable, it's clearly off-sides.

And why in the name of all that is holy should officials be able to go to the penalty box, look at tablet, and determine a call like the Bernier hook on Marchand that negated Pastrnak's goal?

Like Glorydaze said, you think they are going to admit they *****ed up the initial call.

Should be done in Toronto, not by the on-ice official.

What a farce this video review has become.

And in a league where teams can miss the playoffs by a single point (or less), it's inexcusable to have this farcical review system impacting the outcome of games.

Most reasonable fans can maybe live with 1 major officiating gaffe in a game, but 2 ? This very well could end up costing the B's the playoffs, it is going to be that tight. I'm just glad I couldn't stay up that late to watch the game live, I would have been even more incensed then I am now.

 

[patty59]

So, not having seen the game, the Bruins deserved to win and the score should have been closer to 4-3 Bruins if the goals had been handled correctly by the refs?

The Pastrnak goal could have gone either way to be honest. ANA 3rd goal was about 6 feet offside.

 

[bobbyorr04]

This is BS.

I get why they take away the time-out (to prevent abuse) but if the play is wrong, it's wrong.

This one isn't even debatable, it's clearly off-sides.

And why in the name of all that is holy should officials be able to go to the penalty box, look at tablet, and determine a call like the Bernier hook on Marchand that negated Pastrnak's goal?

Like Glorydaze said, you think they are going to admit they *****ed up the initial call.

Should be done in Toronto, not by the on-ice official.

What a farce this video review has become.

And in a league where teams can miss the playoffs by a single point (or less), it's inexcusable to have this farcical review system impacting the outcome of games.

The Bruins don't seem to have much luck on video reviews, but if the challenge calls were decided ONLY in Toronto, it might make a difference.

When was the last time the Bruins won a game in Anaheim? I can't remember the last time they won at the Honda Center.

 

[Coach Parker]

So, not having seen the game, the Bruins deserved to win and the score should have been closer to 4-3 Bruins if the goals had been handled correctly by the refs?

Their defensive zone coverage was the worst I've seen in years. This cannot be hidden or blamed on the refs.

Lots of posts, Bergeron missed two wide open nets that he could have put the puck off the ice and scored on both.

Basically, they played a run and gun game that had them running and facing the gun. Trouble covering opponents in front of the net and Rask was below-average.

This system they are playing is entertaining, highlights their scoring abilities and exposes their holes (winger for Krejci who can score, top pairing RHD who would have eaten up some of Miller and Carlo's minutes.

 

[KnightofBoston]

Well that game was annoying and one we should have won


I thought the bruins looked really great save for some stretches when they had to play from behind (I saw some of the same bad play from the Julien era, gripping sticks too tight, forcing passes, being out of sync)

Just reset and get the win tonight

 

[Hali33]

Their defensive zone coverage was the worst I've seen in years. This cannot be hidden or blamed on the refs.

Lots of posts, Bergeron missed two wide open nets that he could have put the puck off the ice and scored on both.

Basically, they played a run and gun game that had them running and facing the gun. Trouble covering opponents in front of the net and Rask was below-average.

This system they are playing is entertaining, highlights their scoring abilities and exposes their holes (winger for Krejci who can score, top pairing RHD who would have eaten up some of Miller and Carlo's minutes.

That's what I saw as well.

 

[CDJ]

Refs were bad. Not sure how that offsides was missed



So were the defensive breakdowns though. Not gonna win leaving guys wide open on the door step

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

Fell asleep early and missed the game. Good thiming I guess...

Just looked at the highlights on NHL.com.

1st Bruins goal: Great play by Backes to set up Carlo goal. Nice shot.

1st Ana goal: What was K.Miller doing?

Bergy got robbed. Then how in hell was that interference on Marchand? Pasta got stolen a goal.

Bruins still take the lead 2-1 on a slap shot from Big Z.

Then K.Miller the clueless at it again on the tiying goal and then Krug+McQuaid got caught watching and doing nothing on the 3rd goal.

Awesome feed from Krejci to Vatrano to tie the game in the 3rd but like the Bruins have done too many times this year, they wasted at least 1pt losing in the last minutes of a tie game in the 3rd. K.Miller again at fault on that goal giving the puck back to Ana before doing nothing next to Rask.

Looks like Mr Useless #86 had one of his trade mark game...

For those who watched, Who did well? Who were with #86 on the bad end?

 

[Coach Parker]

Fell asleep early and missed the game. Good thiming I guess...

Just looked at the highlights on NHL.com.

1st Bruins goal: Great play by Backes to set up Carlo goal. Nice shot.

1st Ana goal: What was K.Miller doing?

Bergy got robbed. Then how in hell was that interference on Marchand? Pasta got stolen a goal.

Bruins still take the lead 2-1 on a slap shot from Big Z.

Then K.Miller the clueless at it again on the tiying goal and then Krug+McQuaid got caught watching and doing nothing on the 3rd goal.

Awesome feed from Krejci to Vatrano to tie the game in the 3rd but like the Bruins have done too many times this year, they wasted at least 1pt losing in the last minutes of a tie game in the 3rd. K.Miller again at fault on that goal giving the puck back to Ana before doing nothing next to Rask.

Looks like Mr Useless #86 had one of his trade mark game...

For those who watched, Who did well? Who were with #86 on the bad end?

Good:

Backes - Likes playing western conference teams it seems
Krejci - Using speed and vision to create plays again
Marchand - Can't be controlled 1 on 1
Vatrano - You can see the scoring touch is about to ignite and he is about to go on a streak.

Average:

Bergeron - So many chances that looked like he was Krejci out there with the slow reaction.

BAD:

Spooner - Great in the offensive zone and on the rush but completely blown coverage in the D zone multiple times.
Cehlarik - Fought the puck all night with bad passes, turnovers and having his plays easily read.
K.Miller - Really poor coverage down low.
Rask - Was below-average and could have saved this game with a more focused effort. It seems when they only allow 20-25 shots he loses focus and lets in a few too many.
Nash - Really not responding to the new coach with speed.

Basically a textbook Bruins game where they gave up getting the loser point once again. Now they are in 10th.

Bigger Issue:

If you were a scout here to watch Beleskey, Colin Miller, Spooner, Cehlarik or Hayes you left this game really underwhelmed and would tell your GM to hold off.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

Good:

Backes - Likes playing western conference teams it seems
Krejci - Using speed and vision to create plays again
Marchand - Can't be controlled 1 on 1
Vatrano - You can see the scoring touch is about to ignite and he is about to go on a streak.

Average:

Bergeron - So many chances that looked like he was Krejci out there with the slow reaction.

BAD:

Spooner - Great in the offensive zone and on the rush but completely blown coverage in the D zone multiple times.
Cehlarik - Fought the puck all night with bad passes, turnovers and having his plays easily read.
K.Miller - Really poor coverage down low.
Rask - Was below-average and could have saved this game with a more focused effort. It seems when they only allow 20-25 shots he loses focus and lets in a few too many.
Nash - Really not responding to the new coach with speed.

Basically a textbook Bruins game where they gave up getting the loser point once again. Now they are in 10th.

Bigger Issue:

If you were a scout here to watch Beleskey, Colin Miller, Spooner, Cehlarik or Hayes you left this game really underwhelmed and would tell your GM to hold off.

It was the 5th time I think this year they lost the game in the last minutes/seconds of the 3rd, preventing them to win at least 1 if not 2. They lost 5-10pts because of these late losts. Even if they had lost them all in OT/SO, that would put them 1pt back the Habs and 1st place.

 

[BklyNBruiN]

That was a really weak goalie interference call on Marchy.

That was a bad bad call. Also Bergeron could of had a goal if he would of lifted it just a tad. We lost this game because of the sloppy play in our own end throughout the whole 60 minutes, I am looking at you Kevan Miller.. Miller is not all of what his plus & minus suggest he is. I'm sorry he just isn't. As many here say everyday, we/Bruins are in need of a top 4 D man.

Colin Miller looked good in my opinion and the Anaheim announcers praised his offensive skills throughout the whole game! They loved his game.

I'll say it again we lost this game because of the utter sloppy play in our own end, like if the puck was a damn grenade or something.

I really do like the open & quick pace of their game now, and I'm sure they like it too, which 2 me is very important. Spooner looks like a new man..

 

[BklyNBruiN]

with a bloody linesman standing right there. When I watched it this morning, I could see it from my couch, how this guy misses it is beyond me

Rite on! We all went nuts here on the board when that happened. Crazy game and we could of and should of won it.

 

[Coach Parker]

It was the 5th time I think this year they lost the game in the last minutes/seconds of the 3rd, preventing them to win at least 1 if not 2. They lost 5-10pts because of these late losts. Even if they had lost them all in OT/SO, that would put them 1pt back the Habs and 1st place.

Exactly the same problem that looks like it may cost them the playoffs once again.

They NEEDED 4 points in California. They had 3 locked up and could have taken an OT loss tonight but now today is a must win.

 

[Seidenbergy]

I have no idea why the NHL has the on ice officials review their own calls in these instances. It should absolutely be getting looked at in Toronto. Do they really think these guys are going to F up a call and then be like, "My bad, I blew that one"??

Like Glorydaze said, you think they are going to admit they *****ed up the initial call.

Should be done in Toronto, not by the on-ice official.

The refs in the NFL have no problem overturning their own calls with regularity.