Post-Game Talk: GAME #53 - B's win all 10 points available in State of Florida - BRUINS 4 Tampa 3 F

[JCRO]

McIntyre back up. Khudobin to Providence.

I wonder if Zane starts tonight? If so, man has he faced some tough opposition this year. Wild/Rangers/Canadiens/Predators/Penguins/Capitals(?)

I fully expect Rask in net tonight. Would be shocked otherwise.

As others have stated, they play tonight and Saturday then dont play again till the start of the west coast trip Thursday of next week.

 

[BNHL]

I'll be honest, I only got to watch the last 10 minutes of the game, but you can still have a good game and be on the ice for goals for which you weren't at all responsible. I saw Beleskey make a couple of nice plays, and he was playing with more effort than he has recently. Can't say anything about Backes, except that +/- is probably not the best measure of a player's game.

It's true that +- is faulty but not always. i thought Backes was involved,but amounted to nothing. I thought Beleskey was better than last week. Hohum.

 

[TMac21]

I fully expect Rask in net tonight. Would be shocked otherwise.

As others have stated, they play tonight and Saturday then dont play again till the start of the west coast trip Thursday of next week.

Not like he got alot of work last night anyway...18 shots?

 

[jgatie]

Main board losing its gourd again over the Marchand trip. Habs and Canucks fans are so cute when they are acting crazy.

 

[NDiesel]

Main board losing its gourd again over the Marchand trip. Habs and Canucks fans are so cute when they are acting crazy.

I don't know if it's my bias...but that looked accidental to me. The Kronwall one clearly wasn't, this one I really thought was an accident.

 

[caz16]

IIRC Bergy is a member of the Boston Bruins. Correct? So who did you mean when stated heartless and disgusting? I'm just wondering???

Add Krug, Chara, Backes, K. Miller, McQuaid, Marchand....the list goes on. Heartless? No way.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

I fully expect Rask in net tonight. Would be shocked otherwise.

As others have stated, they play tonight and Saturday then dont play again till the start of the west coast trip Thursday of next week.

I expect him in net tonight and for all the games in February.

10 games in 28 days. He can rest on the other 18 days.

 

[22Brad Park]

McIntyre back up. Khudobin to Providence.

I wonder if Zane starts tonight? If so, man has he faced some tough opposition this year. Wild/Rangers/Canadiens/Predators/Penguins/Capitals(?)

They brought Dobby here to be backup and paid money against Cap to do it .They look stupid sending him down constantly for a kid who cannot stop a puck in NHL.

 

[ThomasJ13]

this team was average when it broke camp and at times, albeit briefly, looked just a touch better than average, and during other stretches, looked downright awful.

I wish we could revive some of the threads prior to the drop of the puck on opening night. I swear that most here were on two sides:

1- This was a lottery team

2- This would be a team fighting for the last playoff spot or one of the last spots

So........puzzles me fans acting surprised, shocked, frustrated that #2 is where this team stands (well, in a playoff spot for now)

Me too. Almost want to embed a Dennis Green clip. The only thing that would have surprised me to this point would be if the Bruins were consistently above average. But as you stated, they vacillate between #1 and #2, which most expected, so I really don't get the consternation.

 

[PB37]

Well 27 years to be exact.

I hope they prove me wrong too. But I haven't been this down on a Bruins team in years. The week they went 0-4 just killed my enthusiasm for this year's squad.

Unlike back in 2006-2007, I don't see much light at the end of the tunnel. I'm sorry that's just my honest opinion. I don't care how good their precious Corsi and Fenwick are. 2 1/2 years of disgusting heartless hockey and I'm just jaded at this point.

They went 0-4 and it killed your enthusiasm, but a 3-0 streak doesn't lift your mood just a little bit? Cmon man...where's YOUR heart?

This is the fate of a bubble team and it's going to come down to the wire again. Yes, this team could be better and we're still a few years and pieces away from being a true contender. But to use buzz words like disgusting and heartless to describe these guys ( especially the vet core ) is completely wrong. You can have all the heart in the world ( Bergeron, Marchand, Chara, Backes ) and still come up on the short end of the stick.

 

[Bridges31]

Smh at other fans wishing someone would take Marchand out. I've seen infractions for a lot less. Maybe if you're not a bruins fan you're allowed to do that. I know we're basically not allowed to start threads on the main board because they ultimately get shut down even if they're legitimate because other teams fans just troll until it gets locked.

Having said that, I think he should have been suspended for both.

 

[jgatie]

The main board is a cesspool of Habs fans who weren't alive for their last Cup, and Leafs fans whose grandparents weren't alive for their last Cup.

 

[BruinDust]

They went 0-4 and it killed your enthusiasm, but a 3-0 streak doesn't lift your mood just a little bit? Cmon man...where's YOUR heart?

This is the fate of a bubble team and it's going to come down to the wire again. Yes, this team could be better and we're still a few years and pieces away from being a true contender. But to use buzz words like disgusting and heartless to describe these guys ( especially the vet core ) is completely wrong. You can have all the heart in the world ( Bergeron, Marchand, Chara, Backes ) and still come up on the short end of the stick.

Those were probably poor choices of words, I admit.

It's strange for me to be so down on this team. I think it's the inconsistent effort. I look at a team like the 2007-08 squad, they weren't the most talented bunch but they came to play the vast majority of the games. I loved that version of the Bruins, maybe because it felt like they were building towards something.

Last night I fell asleep for half the game. Two weeks ago I went to bed before the 3rd period of a tied game vs. Detroit, partially because I felt like they were already done. That's a rarity for me, especially since I could watch both on the TV and not the laptop PC.

Maybe it's this management team creating apathy for me as a fan. I watch Sweeney and Co. unable to fix even the back-up goaltending situation. I don't expect some massive team-saving deal, but he can't even seem to pull of a "your problem for my problem' type of deal to see if a change of scenary can change a players fortune's coming to Boston.

Some of these guys are trying hard, most nights. Even Saint Patrice has his nights when the effort isn't quite what we are used to. I don't know if they are mentally fragile, or they simply can't lock down opponents the way they used to. Is that Bruin problem, or is it a league-wide thing, with the speed of the game the way it now is. I don't know.

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

Those were probably poor choices of words, I admit.

It's strange for me to be so down on this team. I think it's the inconsistent effort. I look at a team like the 2007-08 squad, they weren't the most talented bunch but they came to play the vast majority of the games. I loved that version of the Bruins, maybe because it felt like they were building towards something.

Last night I fell asleep for half the game. Two weeks ago I went to bed before the 3rd period of a tied game vs. Detroit, partially because I felt like they were already done. That's a rarity for me, especially since I could watch both on the TV and not the laptop PC.

Maybe it's this management team creating apathy for me as a fan. I watch Sweeney and Co. unable to fix even the back-up goaltending situation. I don't expect some massive team-saving deal, but he can't even seem to pull of a "your problem for my problem' type of deal to see if a change of scenary can change a players fortune's coming to Boston.

Some of these guys are trying hard, most nights. Even Saint Patrice has his nights when the effort isn't quite what we are used to. I don't know if they are mentally fragile, or they simply can't lock down opponents the way they used to. Is that Bruin problem, or is it a league-wide thing, with the speed of the game the way it now is. I don't know.

Tonight's game should do wonders for us...(snicker)

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

I don't know if it's my bias...but that looked accidental to me. The Kronwall one clearly wasn't, this one I really thought was an accident.

Oh it's not accidental.

It's also not a big deal.

That people are pissing themselves about it really shows how far the NHL has fallen.

 

[unifiedtheory]

Carlo could do with some AHL time. Unfortunately his replacement options aren't very enticing.

I think he could just use some rest. He's playing moire hockey than he ever has, at its highest level. I'd "day to day" him with an "injury", let him sit for a week and regroup physically and mentally.

Feb. will help the entire team, far less games.

 

[unifiedtheory]

Oh it's not accidental.

It's also not a big deal.

That people are pissing themselves about it really shows how far the NHL has fallen.

Yah, Ferraro just basically said, "when you accidentally clip someone, you look back, Marchand's head didn't even turn. He knew exactly what he was doing."

Marchand is dirty, always has been, always will be. I still love him, and any fan of any team that says they wouldn't want him on "their team" is a ****ing liar.

 

[PB37]

Those were probably poor choices of words, I admit.

It's strange for me to be so down on this team. I think it's the inconsistent effort. I look at a team like the 2007-08 squad, they weren't the most talented bunch but they came to play the vast majority of the games. I loved that version of the Bruins, maybe because it felt like they were building towards something.

Last night I fell asleep for half the game. Two weeks ago I went to bed before the 3rd period of a tied game vs. Detroit, partially because I felt like they were already done. That's a rarity for me, especially since I could watch both on the TV and not the laptop PC.

Maybe it's this management team creating apathy for me as a fan. I watch Sweeney and Co. unable to fix even the back-up goaltending situation. I don't expect some massive team-saving deal, but he can't even seem to pull of a "your problem for my problem' type of deal to see if a change of scenary can change a players fortune's coming to Boston.

Some of these guys are trying hard, most nights. Even Saint Patrice has his nights when the effort isn't quite what we are used to. I don't know if they are mentally fragile, or they simply can't lock down opponents the way they used to. Is that Bruin problem, or is it a league-wide thing, with the speed of the game the way it now is. I don't know.

The backup goaltending point is a huge problem and the inability to find a fix could very well be what causes the team to miss the playoffs. No team leans harder on their starting goaltender to perform for them then the Bruins do Rask. Whether it's because all eyes are looking at the expansion draft or because nobody is willing to part with a quality netminder at this stage of the season, we're stuck with what we have: a goaltender with a promising prospect career who's shown he has ability but ultimately isn't ready ( McIntire ) or the guy who should be a quality backup but for whatever reason, does not have his **** together this year ( Doby ). 1 win out of 11 starts from our backups is horrendous. Even if they had been just poor/average and had managed to stumble around to get 4 wins out of 11 starts, that's still 6 points in the standings. That pushes us to 64 points, and in reach of 1st behind Montreal.

Just imagine where this team would be if our players that have sucked the most this year performed up to their past capabilities ( Hayes, Beleskey, Doby ).

Beleskey: he goes from .19 GPG and .46 PPG last year to .07 and .24 this year.

Hayes: he goes from .17 GPG and .39 PPG last year to .05 and .08 this year.

Doby: Never had a season under .9 SP and over 3 GAA until this year, he's under 9 and over 3.

These were role players but still roles that were vital to the success of the team. Two guys who we should have been able to count on for 30 goals combined now most likely won't get 10 total. A guy that we should have counted on to get 8 wins has just 1 with 30 games to go.

I still think they can make the playoffs but I look at this season as a process or a step in the right direction. I like where we are now as an organization then I did a year ago. Pasta is evolving into an elite player, Marchand has continued his accession into a whole new career arc that sees him among the very best in the game, Carlo looks like he can forge a solid career as a very good top 4, we have a legit top pairing prospect dman in McAvoy and Bergeron/Backes clones in JFK and Frederic performing well. The expansion draft plus our prospects pushing hard on the door gives the team a built in reason to get rid of some of the dead weight on the team.

 

[Orrfourever]

Even Saint Patrice has his nights when the effort isn't quite what we are used to..

Who brought up Patrice. He's heartless.. Someone said.:

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

One quote below from Friedman among his comments on Marchand. Will post his full 30 Thoughts article in the NHL thread. Found it interesting when he mentioned NHL teams scouting KHL teams for players as many believe that league will reduce teams for next season. May be some good players available.

2. The Department of Player Safety has more patience than I do. When Brad Marchand escaped suspension last week for a “dangerous trip†on Niklas Kronwall, one of the factors was that the NHL historically does not suspend for tripping. I know that drives people crazy, but lawyers always eye precedence — especially when appeals are involved. Marchand was fined $10,000 for knocking down Kronwall, then followed up with something similar Tuesday to Anton Stralman. The league’s position was this was not comparable; the puck was there and it wasn’t intentional.

 

[BruinDust]

The backup goaltending point is a huge problem and the inability to find a fix could very well be what causes the team to miss the playoffs. No team leans harder on their starting goaltender to perform for them then the Bruins do Rask. Whether it's because all eyes are looking at the expansion draft or because nobody is willing to part with a quality netminder at this stage of the season, we're stuck with what we have: a goaltender with a promising prospect career who's shown he has ability but ultimately isn't ready ( McIntire ) or the guy who should be a quality backup but for whatever reason, does not have his **** together this year ( Doby ). 1 win out of 11 starts from our backups is horrendous. Even if they had been just poor/average and had managed to stumble around to get 4 wins out of 11 starts, that's still 6 points in the standings. That pushes us to 64 points, and in reach of 1st behind Montreal.

Just imagine where this team would be if our players that have sucked the most this year performed up to their past capabilities ( Hayes, Beleskey, Doby ).

Beleskey: he goes from .19 GPG and .46 PPG last year to .07 and .24 this year.

Hayes: he goes from .17 GPG and .39 PPG last year to .05 and .08 this year.

Doby: Never had a season under .9 SP and over 3 GAA until this year, he's under 9 and over 3.

These were role players but still roles that were vital to the success of the team. Two guys who we should have been able to count on for 30 goals combined now most likely won't get 10 total. A guy that we should have counted on to get 8 wins has just 1 with 30 games to go.

I still think they can make the playoffs but I look at this season as a process or a step in the right direction. I like where we are now as an organization then I did a year ago. Pasta is evolving into an elite player, Marchand has continued his accession into a whole new career arc that sees him among the very best in the game, Carlo looks like he can forge a solid career as a very good top 4, we have a legit top pairing prospect dman in McAvoy and Bergeron/Backes clones in JFK and Frederic performing well. The expansion draft plus our prospects pushing hard on the door gives the team a built in reason to get rid of some of the dead weight on the team.

Agree.

Expansion has gummed things up for many teams, Bruins included.

I'd toss Nash into that mix of "what if" these guys performed to past levels.

 

[JCRO]

I expect him in net tonight and for all the games in February.

10 games in 28 days. He can rest on the other 18 days.

Agree. Especially with the "bye" week in that fold.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I've said multiple times on this board the past few weeks, I won't cry if Claude if fired, nor will I throw a party. I have issues with how he has handled this team the last 3 seasons. I respect him as a coach and understand how highly he is viewed by his peers. I'm firmly on the fence when it comes to Julien.

Me being disgusted by this year's squad is my honest assessment. Has nothing to do with any agenda but you can think whatever you want.

Why only the last 3 years? Did he begin to change his approach drastically then? Or did he have a different caliber of players to coach?

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I might be the only guy who likes Nash on these boards. He always seems to have the puck on his stick, and he keeps it. Like you said, he's not doing a whole lot with it but I think he helps the team way more than he hurts it...and at under 1 mil, he's worth it. People rip into him here like he's making 3 mil and hurting our cap situation.

Ideally he stays on the 4th line, but he isn't lost on the 3rd.

As I've stated before, he's my favorite player.

 

[BruinDust]

Why only the last 3 years? Did he begin to change his approach drastically then? Or did he have a different caliber of players to coach?

Both