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It looked to me in Games 2-4 the Rangers were more discombobulated than not trying. They waited when they should have gone, passed when they should have carried, dallied when they should have shot the puck in, zigged instead of zagged, etc.

I think the looking "discombobulated" was a result of being married to a gameplan that was being taken away from them. The most infuriating part was a palpable refusal to dump the puck in and go win a battle to get it.

They did that last night. In addition to protecting the puck better (execution), the Rangers also won the majority of the battles below the goal line (effort). It was all there last night and I hope it continues.
 
Awsome game by Kreider! Huge for him to get that early goal. We are really short on size up front and his precense got an impact for sure.

I missed the last game, but this was the first time I saw "McDonagh" in the POs. Very good game by him...

I've said it for big parts of the season and I'll say it again. I like Brassard. He competes on the ice and has great speed in his game. Sometimes he becomes ineffective, but I still like him.

With the new lines, we get a bit of a diffrent outlook with even more depth. I got a bit of a hope that Pittsburgh won't be able to handle it. We can't get any bad bounces against this Pitt team, let's keep our thumbs crossed.
 
funny how you say you too have been a fan 30 years yet you never get tired of the same old story with the product....I like your dig of saying leave watching to the fans as if I'm not one...well I guess you can call me a fan that's tired of the same old ****...funny how some people are blindly devoted my meager results over many years...some people

other teams wins don't affect me much....there is only one team I'm interested in

You asked why I even bother posting , well my post was directed to his sarcasm and wasn't directed to you....so why bother wasting your time to respond to it if you don't care for it huh?

Enjoy game 6

Problem with this is it isn't "the same old story". Been watching the Rangers playoffs since the late '70's and I've never seen a game like last night. And, neither have you, because you chose not to watch it.

Why respond? Because I'm sick of the whining that goes on around here and the self pity. "Oh woe is me, I'm a Rangers fan". I can come up with 18 franchises' fans off the top of my head that would love to have the "same old ****" that us poor Rangers fans have to deal with.

Penguins fans are supposed to be like this. Not Rangers fans.

If you're a Rangers fan and you can't get up for watching the 2nd round of the playoffs then I certainly think you're worthy of a "dig" as to what kind of fan you really are. Sorry, call it like I see it. And, for your sake, I hope we win game 6 so you can get back to watching hockey in game 7.
 
If this was a video game, I'd agree. Getting in hard on the forecheck and being hard on the puck certainly has elements of effort and battle level. I think its quite absurd to say otherwise.

Weren't you the one that said this style was going to be more sustainable compared to Torts hockey? Thats something I agreed with at the time, but it seems like we have some major disagreements regarding what constitutes effort vs. executing a system.

Sorry. It was a quick response. I think being hard on the puck requires both effort and execution. Without either one, it doesn't exist at all. What I was seeing in the games was an execution issue and not an effort one. They were trying hard, but doing the wrong things. For what it's worth, the coach agrees with my assessment, which is where the "playing their hearts out" thing came from.

And the offense was supposed to be what was more sustainable. G/G is at 2.42 in the playoffs compared to 2.61 in the regular season. Not great, but not awful. It's not the nearly full goal per game less than we were seeing under Torts.
 
Problem with this is it isn't "the same old story". Been watching the Rangers playoffs since the late '70's and I've never seen a game like last night. And, neither have you, because you chose not to watch it.

Why respond? Because I'm sick of the whining that goes on around here and the self pity. "Oh woe is me, I'm a Rangers fan". I can come up with 18 franchises' fans off the top of my head that would love to have the "same old ****" that us poor Rangers fans have to deal with.

Penguins fans are supposed to be like this. Not Rangers fans.

If you're a Rangers fan and you can't get up for watching the 2nd round of the playoffs then I certainly think you're worthy of a "dig" as to what kind of fan you really are. Sorry, call it like I see it. And, for your sake, I hope we win game 6 so you can get back to watching hockey in game 7.







my life isn't devoted to watching just hockey like many here, especially when the team plays like **** 3 straight game typical of many other years of ranger playoff hockey.....you have been a fan 30 years and you have never seen a game like last night?....odd

the penguins have won more cups and have been to the finals more times in way less time than the rangers
 
my life isn't devoted to watching just hockey

the penguins have won more cups and have been to the finals more times in way less time than the rangers

Neither of these things are true.

Its fine to not devote your life to hockey, but I dont think that gives you a right to put forth this BS stuff.
 
Sorry. It was a quick response. I think being hard on the puck requires both effort and execution. Without either one, it doesn't exist at all. What I was seeing in the games was an execution issue and not an effort one. They were trying hard, but doing the wrong things. For what it's worth, the coach agrees with my assessment, which is where the "playing their hearts out" thing came from.

And the offense was supposed to be what was more sustainable. G/G is at 2.42 in the playoffs compared to 2.61 in the regular season. Not great, but not awful. It's not the nearly full goal per game less than we were seeing under Torts.

For me, I think the execution part is being in the right spot, and the effort part is taking a play through to completion.

Thats especially true along the boards and in the trenches. What infuriated me in games 2-4 is that the Rangers puck possession game was being taken away by clogging the middle of the ice. The only thing available was dump and chase hockey. There seemed to be a refusal to

1. play that type of game in the first place and

2. when they did, show some heart and win some battles

Last night looked great from both an execution and effort standpoint. They took what Pittsburgh gave them and excelled in each of the areas.
 
my life isn't devoted to watching just hockey like many here, especially when the team plays like **** 3 straight game typical of many other years of ranger playoff hockey.....you have been a fan 30 years and you have never seen a game like last night?....odd

the penguins have won more cups and have been to the finals more times in way less time than the rangers

Penguins have won more Cups, eh?

Where I'm from 4>3

And, yes, I've never seen a game like last night where a team comes together for a player who just lost his mother. Please name the game that you've seen that was similar.
 
Neither of these things are true.

Its fine to note devote your life to hockey, but I dont think that gives you a right to put forth this BS stuff.

the penguins won the cup in 91 and 92
went to the finals in 08 and won again in 09...that's less than 20 years

The Rangers won the cup in 1940.....didn't get to another final until 1950....another final in 72 then 79....won the cup again after 54 years in 94

I would say the Penguins have had better success in a shorter amount of time
 
Penguins have won more Cups, eh?

Where I'm from 4>3

And, yes, I've never seen a game like last night where a team comes together for a player who just lost his mother. Please name the game that you've seen that was similar.

sorry should have elaborated....I meant more cup wins and cup appearances in a shorter amount of time

Marty losing his mother was sad....but that game wasn't so special...btw I have seen the replay this morning fyi.,,,they won...so what....they put themselves in a hole
 
Disagree. I never saw a lack of effort on the part of the team. More of a lack of execution. You can try hard and still be doing things wrong.

I saw both.

But the latter much, much more than the former. You don't need to work hard to make a tape to tape pass.
 
the penguins won the cup in 91 and 92
went to the finals in 08 and won again in 09...that's less than 20 years

The Rangers won the cup in 1940.....didn't get to another final until 1950....another final in 72 then 79....won the cup again after 54 years in 94

I would say the Penguins have had better success in a shorter amount of time

You do realize that the Penguins had a top 5 draft pick in 5 consecutive years and how bad they were to get to that position?

2002: 5th (Whitney)
2003: 1st (MAF)
2004: 2nd (Malkin)
2005: 1st (Crosby)
2006: 2nd Staal

Can you name the last time the NYR had a top 5 pick and who it was?
 
the penguins won the cup in 91 and 92
went to the finals in 08 and won again in 09...that's less than 20 years

The Rangers won the cup in 1940.....didn't get to another final until 1950....another final in 72 then 79....won the cup again after 54 years in 94

I would say the Penguins have had better success in a shorter amount of time

OK if you change the parameters, I guess the answers change.

What do you want from me? Go route for them then.

Something tells me you'd have some serious issues with them in the mid 80's and early 2000's.
 
funny how you say you too have been a fan 30 years yet you never get tired of the same old story with the product....I like your dig of saying leave watching to the fans as if I'm not one...well I guess you can call me a fan that's tired of the same old ****...funny how some people are blindly devoted my meager results over many years...some people

other teams wins don't affect me much....there is only one team I'm interested in

You asked why I even bother posting , well my post was directed to his sarcasm and wasn't directed to you....so why bother wasting your time to respond to it if you don't care for it huh?

Enjoy game 6

also those teams that have made their series interesting this year by coming back had the ability and heart to do so....something that's always been lacking with this organization the rangers have never come back from 3-1...they haven't won't 3 straight playoff games in quite some time....but you guys cling to hope...it's good
You're a strange one Petery Pucks
 
LOL, that's the spirit! Wow. :)

sorry man it's just the way I feel



You do realize that the Penguins had a top 5 draft pick in 5 consecutive years and how bad they were to get to that position?

2002: 5th (Whitney)
2003: 1st (MAF)
2004: 2nd (Malkin)
2005: 1st (Crosby)
2006: 2nd Staal

Can you name the last time the NYR had a top 5 pick and who it was?

even though we haven't had a top 5 in quite some time we could have drafted much better in previous years...we didn't....also good teams aren't just high 1st round picks...they know how to draft good 2nd and 3rd rounders too....we lack that

You're a strange one Petery Pucks

to me strange is unconditional devotion to something that doesn't reciprocate

What do you want from me?
.

I don't want anything from you...you said what I said was untrue and I elaborated for you what I meant
 
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to me strange is unconditional devotion to something that doesn't reciprocate

I dont mind that viewpoint. But the question I keep coming back to is with that viewpoint (to the point where you didnt even watch the game), why the hell are you here this morning?
 
I dont mind that viewpoint. But the question I keep coming back to is with that viewpoint (to the point where you didnt even watch the game), why the hell are you here this morning?
Thats what I dont get

You dont watch the game because its a waste of time but you have time to come in here spewing all this negative bs


Dont show up here after we win game 6
 
to answer the questions keep being directed at me...stop quoting me if you don't care for my answers

That would work except you're the one that posted first. You know, about how you didn't watch the game, don't care, Rangers suck, no hope, better things to do, life to live, etc...

You found the time for that yet didn't watch the game. It's puzzling. Have fun tomorrow night with "life". :)
 
the penguins won the cup in 91 and 92
went to the finals in 08 and won again in 09...that's less than 20 years

the rangers won the cup in 1940.....didn't get to another final until 1950....another final in 72 then 79....won the cup again after 54 years in 94

i would say the penguins have had better success in a shorter amount of time

4 > 3
 
Now I understand why NBC said after game 4 that the Rangers are mentally weak.

They certainly need a kick from behind to get going. This game they wanted to win for Marty and his family, and they crushed the Pens.

Rangers are obviously good enough to win the series.

So what will be the trigger for game 6, how will they bury that MSG ghost. As we know they don't play all that well in front of their own fans, another mental issue.
 
Last night looked great from both an execution and effort standpoint. They took what Pittsburgh gave them and excelled in each of the areas.

Yeah, whatever the problem was it was fixed last night. Gotta carry it over. We know teams can come back from 3-1. It happened to us 5 seasons ago. It happened to the Penguins 3 seasons ago. If they can carry over what they did last night, we have a shot.
 
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