Post-Game Talk: GAME #47 - B's hit rock bottom - Brooklyn 4 BRUINS 0 F

[Absurdity]

They know where they are in the standings and how close other teams are with games in hand over them. Time and time again we see the Bruins play a great game with effort only to do a complete 180 degrees and play the complete opposite. They put up a very solid effort against Nashville, St. Louis, and Philadelphia where in two of those three games, they scored 5+ goals. However, after multiple glimmers of hope where this team plays up to expectations, they play a game like they did today. It is absolutely inexcusable to know where you are in the standings, face a last place team like the Islanders, and play absolutely flat with no effort all game.

 

[TMac21]

They don't even have much that they could sell. The only value they have is in younger players like Krug, Spooner, Vatrano, and C. Miller — all of whom they would want to keep and build around.

I mean, I suppose Chara could fetch a substantial return, given how his base salary and cap hit will be going down for the rest of his deal. But I doubt a move like that would ever happen. Upper management has publicly stated they want a deep playoff run; they would never then approve dumping the team captain.

Exactly, maybe a Dom Moore or Liles could fetch something but they can't just trade off K Miller or McQuaid when each has term left on their deals.

 

[DKH]

Why can't I vote on this poll?

 

[TheBigBadB]

In the GDT someone mentioned Backes and one of the reasons they brought him in was for games like this. And like that poster, I'm not blaming Backes in anyway for a loss.

Rather, can we please put to bed that "leadership"(or lack thereof) was the reason the team folded over the last 2 years? Bergeron is a leader, Chara is a leader, Backes is a leader, etc etc. The reason the team doesn't win consistently is a talent problem not a leadership problem, not a toughness problem, not a effort problem.

The D is poor so the coach plays extra conservative and requires that of the Fs. Maybe he's right, the team would be worse if they opened it up. But the problem is that this team isn't the 2011 team that had deep enough scoring throughout that they could play a defensive system and still score. They just aren't talented enough to do that, especially when playing defensive.

Before the game on the radio Claude was asked about Morrow getting into the game and what he needed to do "Keep it simple, just play a simple game". I thought to my self, "Does Claude ever NOT say that about a player... any player?" I swear every interview he says that.

Now it's not Claude's fault either. Again, they simply don't have enough talent on the blueline or at F and the backup goalie situation is a joke considering they spent a 1st rd pick on a guy that can't even do that.

I understand that when Zboril turns 21 we'll all be popping champagne, but unless the team is going to be lowering season ticket prices in the meantime and unless they admit to their fans that they really aren't "trying" to win, then they owe it to try and ice a more competitive team. We rag on players for shying away from contact and not "competing" yet how hard is Sweeney trying to win right now given the roster he's assembled?

Same talent yet they scored way more goals last season by a wide margin. The fact is the coach and vets are too comfortable right now. They may come out and play a couple of games hard, but then they go right back to cruising around. Krejci being the prime example. They know that Julien will not change anything.

 

[BruinDust]

I'm not saying (or voting) voting fire Claude.

But man, some of the inconsistencies on this team game-to-game are because the veterans are simply too comfortable in their positions. Knowing that irregardless of effort or performance, they will still have their spot when they wake up the next day.

It happens with every boss, in every walk of life or profession. I'm not surprised after 3-4-5, heck in some cases 10 years of the same boss, that these guys, even subconsciously, know what they can get away with.

Perhaps the scratching of a core veteran (I'd vote for Krejci) will give the rest of the veteran core a jolt. Instead of scape-goating a young guy every time.

 

[toasterjam]

reporter cutting Chara off mid answer....CHARA SMASHHH

 

[Brucentric*]

In the GDT someone mentioned Backes and one of the reasons they brought him in was for games like this. And like that poster, I'm not blaming Backes in anyway for a loss.

Rather, can we please put to bed that "leadership"(or lack thereof) was the reason the team folded over the last 2 years? Bergeron is a leader, Chara is a leader, Backes is a leader, etc etc. The reason the team doesn't win consistently is a talent problem not a leadership problem, not a toughness problem, not a effort problem.

The D is poor so the coach plays extra conservative and requires that of the Fs. Maybe he's right, the team would be worse if they opened it up. But the problem is that this team isn't the 2011 team that had deep enough scoring throughout that they could play a defensive system and still score. They just aren't talented enough to do that, especially when playing defensive.

Before the game on the radio Claude was asked about Morrow getting into the game and what he needed to do "Keep it simple, just play a simple game". I thought to my self, "Does Claude ever NOT say that about a player... any player?" I swear every interview he says that.

Now it's not Claude's fault either. Again, they simply don't have enough talent on the blueline or at F and the backup goalie situation is a joke considering they spent a 1st rd pick on a guy that can't even do that.

I understand that when Zboril turns 21 we'll all be popping champagne, but unless the team is going to be lowering season ticket prices in the meantime and unless they admit to their fans that they really aren't "trying" to win, then they owe it to try and ice a more competitive team. We rag on players for shying away from contact and not "competing" yet how hard is Sweeney trying to win right now given the roster he's assembled?

Great great great post.


But, but, but, We have Tory Krug on defense. Surely you have heard of this franchise defensemen. How could we have no talent on the blueline ?He was only minus 3 today but his greatness will over come anything.

 

[Coach Parker]

Not Worth Watching.

Sums up the Bruins nicely.

 

[JCRO]

I'm not saying (or voting) voting fire Claude.

But man, some of the inconsistencies on this team game-to-game are because the veterans are simply too comfortable in their positions. Knowing that irregardless of effort or performance, they will still have their spot when they wake up the next day.

It happens with every boss, in every walk of life or profession. I'm not surprised after 3-4-5, heck in some cases 10 years of the same boss, that these guys, even subconsciously, know what they can get away with.

Perhaps the scratching of a core veteran (I'd vote for Krejci) will give the rest of the veteran core a jolt. Instead of scape-goating a young guy every time.

I vote for this and I agree entirely.

I genuinely think players are too comfortable and just sit back. This team isnt young and hungry like they were in the 07-11 period.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Would like to make the trip to Boston too catch a game haven't been in awhile but they just suck so much at home ,don't want to waste the money.

 

[smithformeragent]

In response to the poll portion, Jacobs should express to management that the short term goals have changed and instruct them to start selling off pieces.

You asked.

 

[Bruinaura]

Not one single reason for any of those kids going to their first NHL or Bruins game to cheer.

1. No goals.
2. No nice plays.
3. No big saves.
4. No fights.

Nothing. Nothing to give a kid a single reason to get up off their $100 / hour seat. I really do feel bad for Bruins fans with kids who are trying to make them into fans or show them the game of hockey.

Right now, look elsewhere.

My Twitter feed is full of a bunch of posts by people who took their kids to the game, got tickets to it for Christmas, had their first date at this game.... All posts "liked" by the Bruins Twitter account.

 

[TMac21]

At least when I see them play the Ducks next month they will be on the road.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Ask my friend who spent $540 to take his 3 kids to the game.

Losing a stinker to an elite team is one thing but losing badly at home TWICE to Brooklyn is another story.

I assume your friend is aware that spending any amount of money for tickets doesn't bear any guarantee on the outcome of a game.
That said, in a season there's highs and lows. Losing twice to the 16-17 Islanders stinks for sure. Soundly beating the 16-17 Columbus Blue Jackets TWICE, including once in their barn is great. I am not happy with what happened today either, but folks need to calm down a little, IMO. It's not the end of the world, nor even the end of the season.

PS: I know that with all the games in hand other teams have, our chances of getting into the playoffs are not good. But there's some 35 games left. Not all is lost, yet. I for one support my Bruins wholeheartedly.

 

[BruinDust]

I vote for this and I agree entirely.

I genuinely think players are too comfortable and just sit back. This team isnt young and hungry like they were in the 07-11 period.

In some cases absolutely.

Take Krejci for example. He's got his money. He would have to lay an egg for half a season to even get demoted to the third line, let alone be a healthy scratch. So his "spot" is secure. He's won a cup. I know it's not easy for these guys to get up to play 82 games a year, I get that. And I'm not trying to point fingers at #46, just using him as an example.

Sometimes guys need a kick in the you-know-what and a tongue lashing from your coach only goes so far, especially when you've probably received it numerous times over the course of a decade.

 

[missingchicklet]

I voted for getting rid of Cam. Send a message to the organization. Really sick of the idea that somehow leadership and grit will cure the ills of the Bs. Bs need skill, not a team full of grinders and grit. The past few seasons have been filled with mismanagement of assets and bringing in assets that lack skill but have that "veteran presence and grit." Screw that crap. It doesn't score goals.

And I also would love to see Krejci shopped for something decent in return. I wanted to see him traded a couple years ago when he still had nice value. Not sure what kind of deal could be reached and where Krejci would go, but I'm done with his lackadaisical attitude that creeps in more than it ever has. His contract is gosh awful and this team has enough centers to fill out three teams.

 

[BergyWho37]

I'm not saying (or voting) voting fire Claude.

But man, some of the inconsistencies on this team game-to-game are because the veterans are simply too comfortable in their positions. Knowing that irregardless of effort or performance, they will still have their spot when they wake up the next day.

It happens with every boss, in every walk of life or profession. I'm not surprised after 3-4-5, heck in some cases 10 years of the same boss, that these guys, even subconsciously, know what they can get away with.

Perhaps the scratching of a core veteran (I'd vote for Krejci) will give the rest of the veteran core a jolt. Instead of scape-goating a young guy every time.

The best thing I've heard yet, don't tell me there was effort in that game. It's not just Cloodes fault for this disgraceful work ethic

 

[Sheppy]

Holy overreaction of a post game... So they pitched a stinker against a crap team. S*** happens. Move on.

They do it more often than not.

 

[SPLBRUIN]

I assume your friend is aware that spending any amount of money for tickets doesn't bear any guarantee on the outcome of a game.
That said, in a season there's highs and lows. Losing twice to the 16-17 Islanders stinks for sure. Soundly beating the 16-17 Columbus Blue Jackets TWICE, including once in their barn is great. I am not happy with what happened today either, but folks need to calm down a little, IMO. It's not the end of the world, nor even the end of the season.

You can't keep losing home games to poor teams, this has been 2 years running. It's bad enough to lose consistently at home but to be downright embarrassed is unacceptable. This was a game that they had to have, all the teams just below them have multiple games in hand. The team looked unprepared, unfocused and folded up once they fell behind, it's bad enough to have to sit and watch such an inferior product on my TV, I can't imagine how angry I would be if I had shelled out hundreds of dollars for that crap.

 

[Number8]

In the GDT someone mentioned Backes and one of the reasons they brought him in was for games like this. And like that poster, I'm not blaming Backes in anyway for a loss.

Rather, can we please put to bed that "leadership"(or lack thereof) was the reason the team folded over the last 2 years? Bergeron is a leader, Chara is a leader, Backes is a leader, etc etc. The reason the team doesn't win consistently is a talent problem not a leadership problem, not a toughness problem, not a effort problem.

The D is poor so the coach plays extra conservative and requires that of the Fs. Maybe he's right, the team would be worse if they opened it up. But the problem is that this team isn't the 2011 team that had deep enough scoring throughout that they could play a defensive system and still score. They just aren't talented enough to do that, especially when playing defensive.

Before the game on the radio Claude was asked about Morrow getting into the game and what he needed to do "Keep it simple, just play a simple game". I thought to my self, "Does Claude ever NOT say that about a player... any player?" I swear every interview he says that.

Now it's not Claude's fault either. Again, they simply don't have enough talent on the blueline or at F and the backup goalie situation is a joke considering they spent a 1st rd pick on a guy that can't even do that.

I understand that when Zboril turns 21 we'll all be popping champagne, but unless the team is going to be lowering season ticket prices in the meantime and unless they admit to their fans that they really aren't "trying" to win, then they owe it to try and ice a more competitive team. We rag on players for shying away from contact and not "competing" yet how hard is Sweeney trying to win right now given the roster he's assembled?

Difficult to argue much if anything with this post. Think it's a very realistic and even handed assessment. Hope Bruins management doesn't get crazy with any playoff desperation Hail Marys. Make smart trades if they are there, but no stupid deadline moves please.

 

[BBB24]

Best news for them is hardly anybody in Boston cares about this team to even notice how much they suck

If this is the case why do they continue to sell out?

 

[BNHL]

If this is the case why do they continue to sell out?

The rule is it is time to worry when you sell out and there are empty seats. The seats are paid for and weren't used. Also,how about the suites?

 

[BruinLVGA]

You can't keep losing home games to poor teams, this has been 2 years running. It's bad enough to lose consistently at home but to be downright embarrassed is unacceptable. This was a game that they had to have, all the teams just below them have multiple games in hand. The team looked unprepared, unfocused and folded up once they fell behind, it's bad enough to have to sit and watch such an inferior product on my TV, I can't imagine how angry I would be if I had shelled out hundreds of dollars for that crap.

Wow... "angry"?? Folks need to chill a bit. Re-read the PGT of the Philly game, put things in perspective. S*** happens. I can't imagine what would happen if we had a stretch of 10+ years like Toronto had. Or the Oilers. A 4-0 loss to the Islanders and this thread feels like Mad Max world.

 

[BNHL]

Wow... "angry"?? Folks need to chill a bit. Re-read the PGT of the Philly game, put things in perspective. S*** happens.

Nothing tweaks a fanbase worse than mediocrity.

 

[Fenway]

You can't keep losing home games to poor teams, this has been 2 years running. It's bad enough to lose consistently at home but to be downright embarrassed is unacceptable. This was a game that they had to have, all the teams just below them have multiple games in hand. The team looked unprepared, unfocused and folded up once they fell behind, it's bad enough to have to sit and watch such an inferior product on my TV, I can't imagine how angry I would be if I had shelled out hundreds of dollars for that crap.

Also they lost badly to the Islanders at home only 3 weeks ago. That alone should have motivated them.