GDT: Game 46: Wild @ Coyotes - 6:00pm (AZ) - BSAZ+, 910 AM

[BUX7PHX]

I could not agree more. That’s why I’ve lately been going straight up drooling mental patient about bringing in violent, passionate players, despite any glaring red flags. It’s just a response to the general apathy I’ve witnessed from this team the last four years. Really, since they quit on Tippett two years before that. It’s been six years of sleepwalking.

I agree, too, that it’s most apparent with OEL. He’s like watching the film Pleasantville on rewind. He went from this vibrant, technicolor, brilliant player to this black-and-white, muted, repressed, emotionless automaton.

I was honestly worried a year or two ago that he might be suffering from depression and/or some substance problems. I’m no longer worried about that based on some things I’ve seen and heard. So that’s good. But I am left wondering “What the f***?!?”.

Was it Tippett getting fired? Was it Doan being unceremoniously dumped? Was it the death of his mother? Was the hiring of Tocchet? Was it the new big mega contract? Was it not getting the captaincy? Or was it later getting the captaincy?

Or is it just the near decade of disappointing seasons from losing teams that just can’t figure anything out and never seem to make any real, sustainable progress just piling up on his head and weighing him down?

I guess it’s multiple or even all of those things. But this is a shell of a player. Lucky for us, he was once such a special player, that even his dried out husk is still a very solid top four defenseman. But it’s been a real shame to lose what he once was. And we don’t even get to properly mourn our loss because he’s still hanging around in this un-dead, zombie-state.

So typically Coyotes. We should just say f*** it and change the name to the Arizona Murphy’s Laws.

I think part of it is losing his mother, but the other piece is that with Tippett, my understanding was that the blue line typically drove the offense. I can't recall, but in our playoff years (and maybe for a year or two after), wasn't our defense corps in the top 5 of points from defensemen in the entire NHL? Once we lose talent, the points dry up, plus that was around the time when OEL lost his mom.

Flash forward to a new coach and new system that clearly a) lacks effectiveness, b) lacks cohesion, and c) does not appear to use the blue line in the same way, and this is what you have. A perfect example is that OEL used to be able to squeeze shots through traffic much more easily. Is that a struggle caused by his play, or does the system try to create space for forwards, and the lanes close down far more quickly than when Tippett was here? Maybe Tocchet's system wants to flash movement for tips and re-directs, and if the timing is not correct for a forward to get to the location for him to be, OEL is forced to wait before making a play, resulting in lost time, space, and lanes.

I just don't think Tocchet or Housley manages our offense correctly.

 

[0point1]

Only 87 replies on the thread. Have we reached peak apathy? Nah.

Here is one for Alex Meruelo and the corporate guys. I know they like graphs...

I know this isn't quite how graphs work but whatever.

 

[Mosby]

Agree with many of the above posts. The games aren't exciting and I spend most of the 3 hours looking at my phone and only occasionally look up when there is an inflection from McConnell.

 

[Mosby]

We just have to watch. OEL actually has to live through this shit.

 

[Neighborhood Coyote]

Not gonna lie... I skipped this Minnesota game.

Got back from my little vacation trip and decided to watch something else because I KNEW how this game was going to end. It's a Rick Tocchet coached team against Minnesota. Knew it would probably be a crappy game to watch and me and the wife could just watch something else more relaxing and enjoyable together vs me getting upset watching the Yotes suck against Minnesota yet again. And it looks like I was totally right in my decision.

It's actually sad. I'm usually die hard about trying to watch as many of the Yote's games as I can. But I'm in the same boat as some of you others here. It's hard to watch this team "play" against good teams. They don't play well, they don't hit, they don't really fight... They appear heartless. The games they DO.. it's great and I love to watch. But it just doesn't happen very often.

I still try and I still hope for them to give fans a reason to cheer and a reason to care. Just seems like their approach is boring as shit and they don't even care about each other as team mates so it's hard to care about them as a fan.

Not trying to add into any downer type vibes going on, either. I AM excited for change this off season (I hope). So I can hope that this team can finally take a step forward in at least some way. Just consistently care about being an actual team that stands up for each other at minimum, I hope.

 

[MIGs Dog]

inflection from McConnell.

McConnell: "...COULD BE A TWO ON ONE IF THEY HURRY!!!"
Me: hmm...another false alarm

 

[MIGs Dog]

We just have to watch. OEL actually has to live through this shit.

If they pay me 1/100th of OEL's salary I promise to attend every game...and buy some beers.

 

[Matias Maccete]

I've watched maybe 3 games this year, highlights from maybe 5 more. Often I check the gdt to see if even the highlights are worth watching, they rarely seem to be.

 

[Neighborhood Coyote]

Just for fun I was looking at the NHL standings for the league... Yotes are at or near bottom 10 in goals for AND in goals against (10th to last goals for, 9th from last goals against).

Remember when the Yotes were at least good in the GA category while sucking hard at scoring goals? Well, now they are great at sucking at doing both.

I don't get how the team can regress in the one thing they did well while not really making any progress on the goal scoring side and somehow the coach is going to be "in demand".

 

[XX]

Scoring chances per 60: 26th
Scoring chance share: 29th
High danger goals: 29th
High danger share: 27th
Fenwick per 60: 26th
Shots per 60: 31st aka dead last
Shot share: 25th
Corsi share: 24th

^ clearly Jack Adams worthy.

If this team feels boring as shit 5v5... that's because it is.

 

[Grimes]

I've watched maybe 3 games this year, highlights from maybe 5 more. Often I check the gdt to see if even the highlights are worth watching, they rarely seem to be.

I will say this, when the team has played well they have looked really good and have been exciting to watch. It just so happens that 80% of these good games have come against the California teams or the Blues. The bad games have been hard to watch and even more frustrating because you can see what this team looks like when they play a good game. You can see how much work there is in the roster construction and growth of young players to even be able to play a decent game consistently against the likes of the Avs, Vegas and Wild.

I do feel like they have made the most progress this year in terms of development and playing better consistently since RT has been here. This step up really should have happened last season however and I think everyone is pretty tired of the stagnation the team has made overall. I'm actually a lot more optimistic for next season than I was last offseason.

The loses like last night are still absolute garbage though and a waste of time to witness.

 

[MIGs Dog]

Scoring chances per 60: 26th
Scoring chance share: 29th
High danger goals: 29th
High danger share: 27th
Fenwick per 60: 26th
Shots per 60: 31st aka dead last
Shot share: 25th
Corsi share: 24th

^ clearly Jack Adams worthy.

If this team feels boring as shit 5v5... that's because it is.

Looks like a playoff team if I've ever seen one.

 

[Neighborhood Coyote]

Scoring chances per 60: 26th
Scoring chance share: 29th
High danger goals: 29th
High danger share: 27th
Fenwick per 60: 26th
Shots per 60: 31st aka dead last
Shot share: 25th
Corsi share: 24th

^ clearly Jack Adams worthy.

If this team feels boring as shit 5v5... that's because it is.

These are the type of stats I come here for haha.

This team doesn't win enough AND they aren't entertaining (most of the time) to watch. I want to witness a time where the Yotes are dangerous to play against.

 

[Mosby]

Not surprised by that shot metric at all.

Of our 46 games, I wonder how many times we've outshot the opposition? Bet it's less than 10.

I'd also wager there are maybe as many as half of those 46 games where we've come out of the first period with less than 10 shots, and probably close to 10 games where it's taken 10-plus minutes to get our first shot.

 

[rt]

I've watched maybe 3 games this year, highlights from maybe 5 more. Often I check the gdt to see if even the highlights are worth watching, they rarely seem to be.

You’ve missed some fun games. And some horrendous ones. There have been fun little individual elements of the season, which is mostly been shit. Some micro pearls in the macro garbage dump.

 

[rt]

Scoring chances per 60: 26th
Scoring chance share: 29th
High danger goals: 29th
High danger share: 27th
Fenwick per 60: 26th
Shots per 60: 31st aka dead last
Shot share: 25th
Corsi share: 24th

^ clearly Jack Adams worthy.

If this team feels boring as shit 5v5... that's because it is.

Craig Morgan says we can’t blame Tocchet for any of his because the team doesn’t have number one center and the top two goalies are injury prone.

 

[Ebb]

I've been waiting to watch the games. Early in the season I tuned in about 1 hour late (to skip through the intermissions). Now, I'm indifferent (although I try to watch a game before the next one). I ended up watching this game at 4:30 AM when I couldn't sleep (perhaps hoping they would lull me to sleep). Although the game didn't put me to sleep, it wasn't the best game (past the first).

Oh well, CoYoTeS HoCkEy

 

[Neighborhood Coyote]

Craig Morgan says we can’t blame Tocchet for any of his because the team doesn’t have number one center and the top two goalies are injury prone.

Could you imagine the player that would be required as a 1c to lift those numbers out from where they are into respectable territory? Would be absolutely incredible.

 

[XX]

Craig Morgan says we can’t blame Tocchet for any of his because the team doesn’t have number one center and the top two goalies are injury prone.

I know you are paraphrasing but it's really funny considering the Wild are running Victor Rask as their 1C. Stephenson is centering Vegas' top line.

I don't give Craig money for a reason.

 

[SniperHF]

Only 87 replies on the thread. Have we reached peak apathy? Nah.

I was at a birthday party

 

[MIGs Dog]

I was at a birthday party

Quite telling when one regular has something to do and forum traffic crashes.

 

[SniperHF]

Quite telling when one regular has something to do and forum traffic crashes.

lol.


Old school message boards are a tough business. People mostly join when teams make the playoffs and well we haven't done that in awhile. Last year don't count cause there was no playoff "run" besides Uncle Gary

 

[rt]

Scoring chances per 60: 26th
Scoring chance share: 29th
High danger goals: 29th
High danger share: 27th
Fenwick per 60: 26th
Shots per 60: 31st aka dead last
Shot share: 25th
Corsi share: 24th

^ clearly Jack Adams worthy.

If this team feels boring as shit 5v5... that's because it is.

What site did you use for this?

 

[XX]

What site did you use for this?

Natural Stat Trick

team stats 5v5, rates instead of counts

 

[SniperHF]

What site did you use for this?

NaturalStattrick is good for this stuff.