Post-Game Talk: GAME 4 DALLAS - Dallas 38-3
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It is so f***ing annoying.
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The Mac Jones saga is so similar to Mitch Trubisky it’s scary. Trubisky had 3-4 years of “he’s got no O line and no weapons” as his get out of jail free card, which was valid, until people finally realized that it was more than that.
Sadly for Pats fans, Mac Jones is Mitch Trubisky v 2.0…
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I think there was an avenue to make Trubisky a good QB and I think there was an avenue to make Jones a good QB. They’re just not flawless prospects and could be ruined. Mitch was ruined and Mac seems to be on the way.
Look at what the Niners are doing with Purdy. That’s how you raise a QB that’s not a can’t miss talent
Look at what the Niners are doing with Purdy. That’s how you raise a QB that’s not a can’t miss talent
I have to admit, I have seen clips of the podcast he does with his brother and I usually laugh. He might be annoying but he actually seems like a decent dude. Never gets into trouble off the field, just a bit of a hardo sometimes.
I don't even blame him or Swift. It's really the coverage of it that's insufferable.
I know I’m in the minority with the rest of civilization, because Taylor Swift has been annoying me for 10 years now……But the fact that she’s going to Travis Kelce’s games, in a private box, and gets ridiculous media coverage…….THAT somehow crosses the line all of a sudden?
The Niners didn‘t do anything special with Purdy, other than get lucky. It’s not like they had this long term development plan for him on the bench for 1-2 years. He was a practice squad guy who had 2 QBs go down ahead of him, his rookie year, and he made the most of it. That’s a credit to him, not the Niners.
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I think a lot of the criticism of Belichick the gm is fair and it's mostly boiling over from years of mediocrity post Brady but i don't think today's loss is really the one that should have people blowing up at him. Mac cost the team the game, it was 10-3 then after three bad turnovers in the next five drives it was 31-3 and game over.
The only thing today told me is Mac can't be the qb in 2024, you'll continue to be a mediocre football team when you have him as the qb. Belichick probably shouldn't be the gm anymore but i still think he's a great coach and while it should have been this year, the amount of cap space and guys that need to be re-signed, they should be able to be aggressive in trying to fix the offense.
The only thing today told me is Mac can't be the qb in 2024, you'll continue to be a mediocre football team when you have him as the qb. Belichick probably shouldn't be the gm anymore but i still think he's a great coach and while it should have been this year, the amount of cap space and guys that need to be re-signed, they should be able to be aggressive in trying to fix the offense.
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Very QB friendly head coach/system and great weapons helps.
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I am not a huge Patriots fan, but frankly, I hope the end for Mac Jones and Bill belichick is nigh,
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I am not a huge Patriots fan, but frankly, I hope the end for Mac Jones and Bill belichick is nigh,
Bill Belichick says he is standing by Mac Jones, but the quarterback’s future with the Patriots is on the line - The Boston Globe
The QB had his worst game as a Patriot, and there are serious questions about the long-term viability of Jones as the leader of this offense.
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Trey Lance had those same weapons and system.
Disagree.
What @CDJ says is true here. And that's exactly what the Patriots should do. But are failing to do. But it's not just the offense that's lacking, what is there on defense that scares you? That one player the opponents gotta plan for? Judon? Gonzalez? Reality is we don't have any stars.
And couldn't do anything with it.
And I was told Trey is a "can't miss prospect".
If Dak goes down, we'll see if he can do anything.
The point of my original post was that the debate that Pats fans are having about Jones, are EXACTLY the same debates that Bears fans had about Trubisky 4 years ago. Exactly. And you know what? BOTH sides were right.
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Not saying every QB will be a success in that situation but the chance of success is a lot higher than most. Jimmy G looked great in it and even Darnold looked good in it in preseason.
Being a point guard QB throwing screens to weapons letting them do their thing is much less of a load, similar to what Mac did at Alabama. It’s not an excuse for Mac but expecting him to get more out of mediocre weapons and o-line is too much to ask he’s not good enough.
The niners have him surrounded by a good offensive line and tons of playmakers.
Trey Lance brutally fractured his ankle and was coming from the FCS. He was never going to be an immediate success. Always a long term play, and honestly I think he’s still a decent long term play.
Defense has plenty of high end talent, a bunch of them are unfortunately now injured
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Really? Your definition of high end talent must be different than mine then. Mediocre rosters will have a tendency to lower the grading scale though, so that’s understandable.
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There. That’s the list.
Christian Gonzalez is on probation until he plays at least a half season.
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Jonathan Jones consistently grades out as one of the better corners in football. Uche had 11.5 sacks last year. There are really no bad players on their defense outside of their #5 and #6 cornerback. It’s a good defense, and today they weren’t even the problem when they had to play CB’s #5 and #6 against a great WR group.
I also have no problem putting Gonzalez up there as a high end player already btw, I don’t need to put a probationary period on him after how he fared in what was probably the toughest stretch of matchups a CB has had this year (Brown, Hill, Wilson, Lamb until he got hurt)
So yeah we probably do have different scales, I actually give credit to good players for being good at football and you just want to be understandably pissy after a rough stretch to start the year (which isn’t on the defense whatsoever). If you want to lay blame on the offense for having no high end talent outside then by all means, I won’t stop you.
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Look, I’m not trying to split hairs here, but there’s a difference between “ no bad players” and you original post of the Pats having a lot of ”high end talent.” There’s a pretty big gap between the 2. We can disagree on that, but I will say that I think you have a tendency to overvalue talent on the teams that you like. Not just the Pats, but the Sox too. Thats not a bad thing…….that’s what fans do.
I think you are splitting hairs, I think you’re wrong about the talent level on defense, and I appreciate your feedback. Thank you for sharing. I will be sufficiently pissy pants going forward to appease you. This Patriots defense sucks, no good players anywhere. Everything bad.
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Put Tua or Hurts on this team and we have the same results.
Two teams invested in their QB's, and the other did not.
Funny how both of them are surrounded by actual talent and the other isn't.
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