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I think Hayton has been good on D and responsible, I don't see him making many mistakes. That is the most important part for a young top pairing C, mistakes. His scoring will come with time and line mate chemistry, he isn't hurting us, I think he should stay up.
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You don't learn to adapt to the quickness of the NHL game in the AHL. And you don't learn confidence by dominating clearly weaker competition.
If the Coyotes had a glut down the middle and had a situation where they needed to make room on the active roster, then sure - Hayton can go to Tucson without much paperwork. But otherwise, the only reason you send him down now is if his play is AHL-caliber, and I don't think it is.
I agree. The only part of Hayton's game that is missing is experience and production and like you guys said, he won't get that in the AHL. You can see he is gaining confidence as he is starting to hold onto the puck longer and skates with it, not using it like a hot potato last year. Having said that, and even though he is playing a very difficult position, he has to show more this year.
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I could not disagree with you more fundamentally.
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Re. Hayton I think the balance for a prospect's development depends on the player, the situation he is put in and how he handles it.
At this juncture, I am absolutely fine with Hayton staying up and working on his game there - getting used to and catch up with the speed of the top level whilst working on being sound in the defensive end.
However if his performance stalls, let's say in 10 games and he is struggling with the speed of it all, his ice time shrinks etc., then absolutely fine to have him work on his game in the AHL. Much better than a period of taxi squad for example.
Right now the AHL is just warming up and to move from full NHL to lukewarm AHL would bring so very little incentive in my mind for him.
Also there is no guarantee that he would blow the competition out in the AHL either; the roster there has been turned out, a new head coach is in; who knows how this will work out.
So for now I much prefer him with the Coyotes, under Varady careful watch.
At this juncture, I am absolutely fine with Hayton staying up and working on his game there - getting used to and catch up with the speed of the top level whilst working on being sound in the defensive end.
However if his performance stalls, let's say in 10 games and he is struggling with the speed of it all, his ice time shrinks etc., then absolutely fine to have him work on his game in the AHL. Much better than a period of taxi squad for example.
Right now the AHL is just warming up and to move from full NHL to lukewarm AHL would bring so very little incentive in my mind for him.
Also there is no guarantee that he would blow the competition out in the AHL either; the roster there has been turned out, a new head coach is in; who knows how this will work out.
So for now I much prefer him with the Coyotes, under Varady careful watch.
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Wouldn't it be fun to find out if he COULD dominate in the AHL? and what if he didn't?
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He had 5 points in 5 games a year ago when he was coming off injury. I think we have answer to that question.Wouldn't it be fun to find out if he COULD dominate in the AHL? and what if he didn't?
I honestly forgot about that stint. Glad you didn't.
Speaking of DVO, I know he went down and back up but he stuck in the NHL because of his D and play away from the puck. Now his offence is really picking up. I see the same with Hayton, solid on D and away from the puck, his offence will come with time, no need to send him down unless he starts making mistakes or somebody beats him out of a C spot. Sending him down might not hurt him, but I don't think it is necessary to help him take the next step.
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That's fine. Nobody said we have to agree on everything (or anything!).
Hayton's already proved he can play a men's game in two different leagues (AHL and Finnish Liiga). I think if we wanted him to dominate the AHL as a career, he'd be there right now. I also think that if his game had some serious fundamental weaknesses, he'd be in Tucson working on them. I haven't seen anything like that in his game - I've seen him working on adapting to NHL speed and figuring out the various angles and techniques required of a fast skill game, but his "fundies" are solid.
But you also have to ask, if Hayton were to go down to Tucson to, I dunno, win the Les Cunningham or John Sollenberger trophies, who would replace him? We already have a dearth of natural centers on the roster. You have to look at the calculus of which player would be an upgrade over Hayton at that position, and I don't think Chaput, Gauthier, Pederson, Speers, et al., fit that criterion.
I guess the long and short of it is that I don't think Hayton is the kind of kid who is going to be ruined by too much NHL ice time. He seems like a player who will learn from it, like Doaner was. I could be wrong, but we won't know for a while yet.
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TheLegend
"Just say it 3 times..."
TheLegend
"Just say it 3 times..."
TheLegend
"Just say it 3 times..."
Better make this a live thread before I hear about it......
You're in the old thread tho
TheLegend
"Just say it 3 times..."
You're in the old thread tho
Old thread.... new thread.... did it ever matter??
We both know who’ll we hear from.
