thepuckmonster
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Yep. I don't believe for a second that Benning hasn't been working phones to fix our holes but I think he's not going to give up premium assets like our first this year since we're still a retooling team.
Post-Game Talk: GAME #34 - Canucks 1 @ Ducks 2 OT
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Yep. I don't believe for a second that Benning hasn't been working phones to fix our holes but I think he's not going to give up premium assets like our first this year since we're still a retooling team.
NuxFan09
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This is what I wanted to see: Burrows back with the Sedins and Vrbata with Bonino. I'm curious how Bonino and Vrbata would feed off eachother, Vrbata being the pure shooter and Bonino the guy who makes all these crafty little plays.
Think there's some overreaction going on here
First game off of the Xmas break, while the ducks got a game to shake some rust off
Obviously want a better game played, with some more shot attempts, but I'm glad we got a point
Shot blocking was good this game
But it's not the end of the world, yet atleast
First game off of the Xmas break, while the ducks got a game to shake some rust off
Obviously want a better game played, with some more shot attempts, but I'm glad we got a point
Shot blocking was good this game
But it's not the end of the world, yet atleast
thepuckmonster
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It's how it goes in Vancouver. ive been saying that I wish we could just have a few players slump at a time like normal teams.
NuxFan09
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All my vCash (never even used the feature so I don't even know how to do that
Heh.
It's easy to make bold predictive statements if you're not going to put any stake to it.
I will bet you any sum of money you choose that Henrik finishes the season with more than 60 points.
Mr. Canucklehead
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It's easy to see how and why that could happen on that game.
Nice to see Miller have a big game tonight; that point is due to him (and Weber's wing and a prayer wrister, I suppose).
The rest of the team...well, work off that Turkey. I did think Vey had a very strong game, though - he's been getting much better in his own end and in battles. Good to see.
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Loving Vey more and more. He's slowly improving, and showing flashes like that dangle tonight, of offense that we all know he has. It's very promising. He's a hardworker on the cycle too, uses his speed well, and that works well with Matthias.
Edo
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Didn't know the Sedin's were playing until the 2nd period where Beauchemin started checking Henrik. If we only had this kind of depth in 2011.
The thing is, that teams that are built like Vancouver can do some serious damage in the post season. Not too much up front talent, but the ability to roll the 4 lines and provide constant pressure will be fantastic.
Just need to make the playoffs.
The thing is, that teams that are built like Vancouver can do some serious damage in the post season. Not too much up front talent, but the ability to roll the 4 lines and provide constant pressure will be fantastic.
Just need to make the playoffs.
Take that point and get out of town quickly. Better team won and a lot of the Canucks looked like they had way too much turkey. Games like this shows us where we're at as far as the elite teams go. Ducks have speed throughout the line up while the Canucks have it spotted here and there in the lineup.
The Good
Hansen - continues to establish himself as the best forward on the team. Made some excellent plays in his own end to prevent open chances and looked the most dangerous on the offense. Played with purpose and speed through out the game. Probably should have got a call on the drive to the net in the OT.
Tanev - Edler - yes they were on for both goals and Tanev looked confused on the winner. But, for the most part, they shut down some of the better players in the League. Also had to make up for near constant poor play by the wingers in getting the puck out. Forwards are asking way too much out of these players. Hard to imagine where we would be without this duo
Weber - he is getting better. Competes very hard and was one of the better d-men in getting the puck up to the forwards.
Matthais - one player that had the size and speed to compete against Ducks. Some dominant shifts that allowed the team to at least get some offense going.
Vey - not perfect but again compete was there. Made some nice plays and is showing that he is getting up to game speed at the NHL level. One of the better stories on the team this year.
Miller - player of the game. Really the only reason the team got a point. Even on the on the winner he made a good effort to recover and was unlucky the puck was slide (I think inadvertently) along the ice.
The Bad
Higgins - thing about Higgins is that he is quietly bad. Doesn't do really negative things and you tend to forget he is even playing. However, he provided absolutely nothing. Was way too high for the pass outs and couldn't get the puck out of his end. Made weak passes that were easily picked off and turned into rushes going the other way. Has done nothing for along time and needs to be sat. If Kassian is in then Higgins should be the first one out.
Burrows - ok he got the screen on goal but other than that was near useless. Had no wheels and often couldn't stay in the play.
Sbisa - player is a disaster when he gets put under pressure. Has to get to the puck quicker and make the play quicker. Don't know if he has that in him.
Vrbata - playing with the Sedins didn't help but mostly floated tonight. When the Sedins are off Vrbata disappears.
The Ugly
Sedins - noticed they got benched in the second. Thoroughly deserved and good on DesJardins. Henrik played a little bit better after that but Daniel continued to meander around spending a lot of time being dropped on his a** as he wandered in to checks. Daniel looked like he did last year. Very weak on the puck and slow with his stick. You could say the Sedins got underpaid in the past but they are sure making up for that now if this type of play continues
Other thoughts
Why can't Sbisa sit for a game and give Sanguinetti a chance. From what I've seen Sanguinetti is better and a lot less liable to gift wrap chances to the other team.
IMO Desjardins is doing the best he can with the hand he was dealt but he needs to consider giving some player like Sanguinetti a chance.
Dorsett gave the second line some punch but if we are down to Dorsett being a second liner then we got some very deep issues
Reffing was one-sided. Finally stopped calling obvious dives by the Ducks in the third.
Seemed like a lot of the older players with kids had a difficult time coming off the break. Maybe to be expected but they better get their focus back.
The Good
Hansen - continues to establish himself as the best forward on the team. Made some excellent plays in his own end to prevent open chances and looked the most dangerous on the offense. Played with purpose and speed through out the game. Probably should have got a call on the drive to the net in the OT.
Tanev - Edler - yes they were on for both goals and Tanev looked confused on the winner. But, for the most part, they shut down some of the better players in the League. Also had to make up for near constant poor play by the wingers in getting the puck out. Forwards are asking way too much out of these players. Hard to imagine where we would be without this duo
Weber - he is getting better. Competes very hard and was one of the better d-men in getting the puck up to the forwards.
Matthais - one player that had the size and speed to compete against Ducks. Some dominant shifts that allowed the team to at least get some offense going.
Vey - not perfect but again compete was there. Made some nice plays and is showing that he is getting up to game speed at the NHL level. One of the better stories on the team this year.
Miller - player of the game. Really the only reason the team got a point. Even on the on the winner he made a good effort to recover and was unlucky the puck was slide (I think inadvertently) along the ice.
The Bad
Higgins - thing about Higgins is that he is quietly bad. Doesn't do really negative things and you tend to forget he is even playing. However, he provided absolutely nothing. Was way too high for the pass outs and couldn't get the puck out of his end. Made weak passes that were easily picked off and turned into rushes going the other way. Has done nothing for along time and needs to be sat. If Kassian is in then Higgins should be the first one out.
Burrows - ok he got the screen on goal but other than that was near useless. Had no wheels and often couldn't stay in the play.
Sbisa - player is a disaster when he gets put under pressure. Has to get to the puck quicker and make the play quicker. Don't know if he has that in him.
Vrbata - playing with the Sedins didn't help but mostly floated tonight. When the Sedins are off Vrbata disappears.
The Ugly
Sedins - noticed they got benched in the second. Thoroughly deserved and good on DesJardins. Henrik played a little bit better after that but Daniel continued to meander around spending a lot of time being dropped on his a** as he wandered in to checks. Daniel looked like he did last year. Very weak on the puck and slow with his stick. You could say the Sedins got underpaid in the past but they are sure making up for that now if this type of play continues
Other thoughts
Why can't Sbisa sit for a game and give Sanguinetti a chance. From what I've seen Sanguinetti is better and a lot less liable to gift wrap chances to the other team.
IMO Desjardins is doing the best he can with the hand he was dealt but he needs to consider giving some player like Sanguinetti a chance.
Dorsett gave the second line some punch but if we are down to Dorsett being a second liner then we got some very deep issues
Reffing was one-sided. Finally stopped calling obvious dives by the Ducks in the third.
Seemed like a lot of the older players with kids had a difficult time coming off the break. Maybe to be expected but they better get their focus back.
JuniorNelson
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Way to go, Baby Shinkaruk! Great call.
I predict the Sedins will drop off a cliff again, like last year. This is not to say the Canucks won't win a cup, just that they won't be riding the Sedins to get there.
There are some guys rumored to be available right now that would change the make-up of the team. If Linden and Benning (Aquilini is ascending the learning curve, too) decide to do a trade I think it'll be enough to propel the team forward. They need about two pieces! This can be done with one well crafted transaction.
Suppose they are able to grab a young center and an offensive defenseman, both clear upgrades for those roles. The center would force Bonino to the third line, or not. Richardson to the fourth and the new guy and Bonino on the second and third lines in no particular order. The Sedin line plays less minutes and benefits from a full arsenal on the point.One trade or two if necessary is a lot closer than I'd have guessed before the season started. Miles closer!
This is blue sky thinking but the same result could occur internally. Guys like Sbisa, Weber and Tanev might not ever be scoring threats in the conventional sense but a system that puts shots on the net lets these guys take a blast every night and that will eventually lead to goals. Hamhuis might return and claim the point. Similarly, adding a forward might just mean waiting for Kassian to get back.
This was not a great, gritty win tonight but it wasn't the kind of whupping that discourages anybody, either. That's pretty good, against Anahiem.
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Good points all around. I disagree on Tanev, thought it was a tough game for him. If he plays like he did tonight on a nightly basis it will be a tough run until Hamhuis is back.
I agree Burrows didn't have the most effective game but I can't help but think he would have looked better with the sedins than Vrbata, at least been able to help with some puck retrieval.
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Bieksa was a major floater out there, and he seems to take at least one penalty a game. He's getting lazier and lazier while all of the other D step up during Hamhuis's recovery (well, Sbisa is trying, but that's like putting lipstick on a pig)
Either one of Bieksa or Sbisa could, and should, be sat for Sanguinetti. If Sanguinetti plays some solid hockey for us (even if it is a big if) then we come out ahead.
Either one of Bieksa or Sbisa could, and should, be sat for Sanguinetti. If Sanguinetti plays some solid hockey for us (even if it is a big if) then we come out ahead.
Reverend Mayhem
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Man, a lot of you are too optimistic when we win and too pessimistic when we lose.
It's an 82 game season.
It's an 82 game season.
Jimson Hogarth*
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Unfortunately with most of the canucks team a bit over matched in the physicality department its doubful the coach would sit either Bieksa or Sbisa right now. Sitting Bieksa now would be pointless. He is a leader on the team and we need him to play better.
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May be some one needs to tell him that.Tired of people making excuses for him,id sit him out just to wake him up.
NuxFan09
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Some of us aren't in a position to be doing things like that right now. Money is tight, especially at Christmas time.
I was just trying to make a point anyway. I don't care enough about the whole thing to actually place a bet on it.
It's not about how much you care, it's about how much you believe what you say. If you were really certain that Henrik will finish the season with 55 points, then you have no reason not to put a bet on it; it will cost you nothing. The fact that you're not willing to put any money on it tells me that you don't really think that.
It's easy to post bold things on this board like "The sedins will finish with 50 points", "the Canucks will draft in the top 10", "Jensen will score 30 goals in the NHL," etc. but if you're not willing to put any money where your mouth is then there's little reason anyone here should take you seriously. At least in my opinion. Money talks, ******** walks. I wish people would refrain from posting such things unless they were willing to put a stake in it. It tells me that posters are big on talking tall and garnering attention with silly statements that they don't actually believe in.
Ducks deserved to win, but Nucks were lucky for a point, offense wasn't good enough, had barely any shots, Ducks had us 2-1, beat us in hits and faceoffs too, giveaways were a slight issue.
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Watching on pvr right now and don't want to look back through the thread. Did anyone notice Kesler's cheeky hook on Horvat with 2:03 left in the first? Horvat is hauling ass on the back check and Kesler gives him a good hard hook around the waist, not only arresting Bo's forward motion but also accelerating his own. Quite the little move. Also noticed Bo beating the opposing centre twice in the first, only to have his winger miss the puck and give possession to Anaheim. Would have made his faceoff numbers look a little more even.
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