Post-Game Talk: GAME #30 - Spooner wins it in OT - OLE OLE OLE - BRUINS 2 Habs 1 F/OT

[ReggieMoto]

My whole issue with the offsides review in the first place is the length of time of the play. That goal was scored literally 20+ seconds later, it shouldn't matter at that point.

The problem is: reviewing when?
If no goal is scored and play reverses back to the other direction there's no need to review.
If a goal is scored then you review, whether it was scored 5 seconds after crossing or 5 minutes.

What's the rule if possession changes hands from offense to defense back to offense? Does that nullify any potential review?

 

[JRull86]

The problem is: reviewing when?
If no goal is scored and play reverses back to the other direction there's no need to review.
If a goal is scored then you review, whether it was scored 5 seconds after crossing or 5 minutes.

What's the rule if possession changes hands from offense to defense back to offense? Does that nullify any potential review?

Personally, I think in order to review offsides (which I hate 100%) and take a goal off the board, a goal has to be score within a reasonable time frame, IE 1-10 seconds. If the opposing team touches the puck, it's nullified.

Honestly they need to just ammend the offsides rule to get rid of the "skate was a centimeter off the ice" BS that's happened. That's not the spirit of the rule.

 

[RustyBruins72]

sorry, you're right. When I looked it up earlier it was sorted by GAA & I didn't realize it. Here's his Bell Centre record over the last few years:

So even though he's had a few losses, he played well in most of them. Basically he's had one game in Montreal since 2012 that could be considered "bad" and has won 4 of his last 5.

Those last 3 W's stand out.

and Zac attack almost won earlier this year if not for yet another fortuitous bounce in Montreal's favour back in October.

 

[MetM]

From the Habs board:


"I thought they played awful. Fought the puck all night. Also, I'm sure the Bruins fans are whining about reffing cause it's what they do best. But I think it would be justified tonight"

 

[Otherworld]

From the Habs board:


"I thought they played awful. Fought the puck all night. Also, I'm sure the Bruins fans are whining about reffing cause it's what they do best. But I think it would be justified tonight"

He meant every night ....

 

[dup7]

Rask on getting pounded by Mitchell along Montreal's RW board in OT: "I wonder what would have happened if someone hit Price like that?"

Hard to know what he meant without context, but that sounds like a bit of a shot at teammates? I've never missed Looch as much as I did last night. Can you imagine if he was on the ice when Emelin smoked Pasta?

 

[eightspokedb]

Replay on NHL Network right now..

 

[caz16]

Rask on getting pounded by Mitchell along Montreal's RW board in OT: "I wonder what would have happened if someone hit Price like that?"

Hard to know what he meant without context, but that sounds like a bit of a shot at teammates? I've never missed Looch as much as I did last night. Can you imagine if he was on the ice when Emelin smoked Pasta?

I don't think it was a shot at his teammates - it sounds like a shot at the officials.

 

[jgatie]

Rask on getting pounded by Mitchell along Montreal's RW board in OT: "I wonder what would have happened if someone hit Price like that?"

Hard to know what he meant without context, but that sounds like a bit of a shot at teammates? I've never missed Looch as much as I did last night. Can you imagine if he was on the ice when Emelin smoked Pasta?

I didn't read it that way at all. I read it as a penalty would have been called against anyone who breathed on Price, never mind laid him out like that. In no way did I think it meant Tuukka's teammates were guilty of not sticking up for him.

 

[ReggieMoto]

Rask on getting pounded by Mitchell along Montreal's RW board in OT: "I wonder what would have happened if someone hit Price like that?"

Hard to know what he meant without context, but that sounds like a bit of a shot at teammates?

I don't think it was a shot at his teammates - it sounds like a shot at the officials.

I agree.

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Rask on getting pounded by Mitchell along Montreal's RW board in OT: "I wonder what would have happened if someone hit Price like that?"

Hard to know what he meant without context, but that sounds like a bit of a shot at teammates? I've never missed Looch as much as I did last night. Can you imagine if he was on the ice when Emelin smoked Pasta?

Probably a shot at the officials. If it was a shot at teammates, I would prefer Rask start going after guys on his own.

 

[ThomasJ13]

Personally, I think in order to review offsides (which I hate 100%) and take a goal off the board, a goal has to be score within a reasonable time frame, IE 1-10 seconds. If the opposing team touches the puck, it's nullified.

I'm not sure the league would go for a time frame, because it's kind of unprecedented (although I'd like to see it attempted, because like you I hate this rule). And the opposition merely 'touching' the puck might have problems: what if a team entered the zone on a clear offsides, and a defending player just barely tips a pass but it still ends up on the stick of the intended target, who scores. Or a shot is tipped by a defender but still ends up in the back of the net. In both cases there was a touch, but in the spirit of the rule the scoring team scored on the rush on an offside play....so those should be called back.

Maybe a defensive 'possession' as opposed to a touch might work? They already use 'possession' for a delayed penalty, so maybe they could also implement it under these circumstances? If a team enters the zone on a questionable offsides, and maintains possession the entire time until they score, then it can be challenged. But if the defending team gets possession at any time (no matter how temporary), then they can't challenge. Wouldn't eliminate all of the problems, but might alleviate some?

 

[Number8]

Rask on getting pounded by Mitchell along Montreal's RW board in OT: "I wonder what would have happened if someone hit Price like that?"

Hard to know what he meant without context, but that sounds like a bit of a shot at teammates? I've never missed Looch as much as I did last night. Can you imagine if he was on the ice when Emelin smoked Pasta?

I'd bet good money it was at officials and has nothing to do with his teammates. Really good money.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Rask on getting pounded by Mitchell along Montreal's RW board in OT: "I wonder what would have happened if someone hit Price like that?"

Hard to know what he meant without context, but that sounds like a bit of a shot at teammates? I've never missed Looch as much as I did last night. Can you imagine if he was on the ice when Emelin smoked Pasta?

Not at all a shot at his teammates. Not even a 1% chance. It's toward the "typical Montreal" officials.

Whether or not that should have been a penalty call, it shows DISCIPLINE more than anything else to not have/save your reaction. Going shorthanded in overtime is pretty much never worth it.

 

[Bergyesque]

Couldn't watch the game so I DVRed it.

Watched it late last night and found 9 clear occurrences of Habs penalties not called, among them, notably, hookings and slew foots.
Per se, I don't mind refs not calling stuff.
I have a problem though when you call the other team for some really minor infractions or even non infractions.
I mean, how come what Morrow did at the start of the 2nd period warrants a penalty?

That was some of the most disgusting and blalantly biased officiating job I've ever seen.

Like some posters noted before, you could tell how unhappy that bum of-a-ref was at announcing the Bs goal was good.
Maybe he was afraid of being killed by the 911 calling crowd?

Anyhow, very happy the Bs stood their ground and won.

 

[ThomasJ13]

I didn't read it that way at all. I read it as a penalty would have been called against anyone who breathed on Price, never mind laid him out like that. In no way did I think it meant Tuukka's teammates were guilty of not sticking up for him.

Yeah, would be hard to fathom that after such a hard-fought win, even an emotional guy like Rask would call out his teammates through the media. Much more likely that it was a well-camouflaged shot at the officials, and/or the pedestal that many put Price and his killer blocker on. Gets his dig in, but without fear of reprisal from the league. Well played, Tuukka...

 

[Dizzay]

I hope last night was a eye opener for the folks on this board who said we didn't need/want Lucic on this team.

1) Pasta gets absolutely smoked and no one steps up and takes care of Emelin.
2) Tuukka gets nailed and not one person ever looks at the guy who hit him.
3) Miller almost gets a career ending head shot into the boards and he's left to stick up for himself
4) McQuaid got absolutely crushed into the dasher (I think, from what I saw) and he's left to ask Shaw to dance, likely dazed and confused.
5) Marchand gets clipped by Emelin, no response.

The scary thing I see above is they targeted both our most skilled guys(Pasta, Marshy, Tuukka) and toughest guys(Miller, Quaider)

The ratty Habs are making the Big Bad Bruins look like punks. As a Bruins fan for 33 years, this was sad to watch. We need our identity back badly. Wake up Cam!

 

[remer]

It's a shot against the officiating. Carey Price can do no wrong. He can take his blocker and hit someone in the back of the head and in the back of the ribs and get nothing. McQuade can be driven into the stanch and there's nothing. Chara does it and he is wanted for murder. The people in the NHL are sick and tired of the favouritism given to the Montréal Canadiens. This has to stop. It is on believable. It's time that this type of home called officiating stops.

 

[Blowfish]

Can you guys stop the complaining Unreal!

 

[Therick67]

I hope last night was a eye opener for the folks on this board who said we didn't need/want Lucic on this team.

1) Pasta gets absolutely smoked and no one steps up and takes care of Emelin.
2) Tuukka gets nailed and not one person ever looks at the guy who hit him.
3) Miller almost gets a career ending head shot into the boards and he's left to stick up for himself
4) McQuaid got absolutely crushed into the dasher (I think, from what I saw) and he's left to ask Shaw to dance, likely dazed and confused.
5) Marchand gets clipped by Emelin, no response.

The scary thing I see above is they targeted both our most skilled guys(Pasta, Marshy, Tuukka) and toughest guys(Miller, Quaider)

The ratty Habs are making the Big Bad Bruins look like punks. As a Bruins fan for 33 years, this was sad to watch. We need our identity back badly. Wake up Cam!

The problem is, the Canadiens won't drop the gloves.

 

[northeastern]

I don't think it was a shot at his teammates - it sounds like a shot at the officials.

I agree with this. Tuukka is answer enough to know that in ot you can't answer.

 

[Number8]

I hope last night was a eye opener for the folks on this board who said we didn't need/want Lucic on this team.

1) Pasta gets absolutely smoked and no one steps up and takes care of Emelin.
2) Tuukka gets nailed and not one person ever looks at the guy who hit him.
3) Miller almost gets a career ending head shot into the boards and he's left to stick up for himself
4) McQuaid got absolutely crushed into the dasher (I think, from what I saw) and he's left to ask Shaw to dance, likely dazed and confused.
5) Marchand gets clipped by Emelin, no response.

The scary thing I see above is they targeted both our most skilled guys(Pasta, Marshy, Tuukka) and toughest guys(Miller, Quaider)

The ratty Habs are making the Big Bad Bruins look like punks. As a Bruins fan for 33 years, this was sad to watch. We need our identity back badly. Wake up Cam!

I disagree. I thought B's played a pretty physical game. Almost immediately after Pasta got hit (clean hit and Pasta can take it) Krug absolutely trucked Shaw. Later in game Miller hit Emelin hard enough to knock his helmet flying.

On flip side if we'd freaked out over every hit, we'd have taken ton more penalties (not a shining night for refs to begin with) than we already did and lost. I've seen way too many of those "yeah you beat us but we'll kick your ass if you'll ever drop your gloves" games against Habs to last a lifetime.

I loved the Big Bad Bruins of the 70's. Loved the fights. Loved the take no prisoner game.

IMO the Bruins Cup run in 2011 was closest thing we will EVER see to the Big Bad Bruins again. The League neutered us after that season.

 

[Otherworld]

Rask on getting pounded by Mitchell along Montreal's RW board in OT: "I wonder what would have happened if someone hit Price like that?"

We saw Krejci score a goal in OT (a good one IMO) and because there was contact with Price was saw a Ref think about it instead of waving it off or motioning goal.....

We all know what would have happened if Price was run. A PP and GWG in OT....

 

[Number8]

The problem is, the Canadiens won't drop the gloves.

By and large the Canadien's have never dropped the gloves. For every John Kordic and Chris Nilan there seem to be an endless supply of Emelin's, Carbonneau's, Tremblay's, Lemieux', Gallagher's, Shaw's, Komisarek's, Chelios', Subban's, Lapierre's, Ribeiro's, Tucker's, and others who played the nasty game but who's gloves are/were glued to their hands.

Blame it on Pierre Bouchard -- after that I think the standard line from the Habs was.... "merci, mais Je pense que nous ne devrions pas combattre".

 

[DKH]

The problem is, the Canadiens won't drop the gloves.

Yes. Emelin & Shaw accounted for most of the BS

However

The Krug hit on Shaw

The Miller hit on Emelin

Were outstanding A+++++

These two were challenged but wouldn't fight

Emelin is constantly challenged and won't drop them and Shaw needs no description we all get it