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GDT: Game 29: Pittsburgh Penguins vs Montreal Canadiens 12/13/23 7:00pm EST SN, RDS, TSN 690

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Theodore450 said:
The lineup changes won’t do anything until St. Louis decides to coach.
Personally he should be in Burrows position and we should get a real HC like Berube
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He’s developing as a coach too. This season is a write off so whatever. It’s just painful to see a weak injured team be so hopeless. It’s only game 29…
OnTheRun said:
If you are fundamentally flawed (underskilled, soft, small) then a system isn't going to fix you.
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Nonsense. Absent game-breaking talent you play a system that neutralizes the opponent’s talent and evens the odds. The NZ Trap for instance.

But that’s not what we want…
HabbyGuy said:
I know this is crazy but MSL is not here to "coach' a winner persay. he's here to develop.
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I would more readily accept this if players showed progress. Largely, they have not shown year on year improvement.
 
That peri0d however was a complete waste of my time.

woot!!! Super stoked for the 3rd tied game! Pa pa pa pa pa paaaa! Pa pa pa pa pa papaaaaa!
 
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Theodore450 said:
Develop what?

Players don’t suddenly learn how to be better at hockey. They’ve been developing since 8 years old.

Players find their groove from playing in a real system.
If hes here to develop that should be his role not head coach. He’s tanking the value of players
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What do you mean suddenly? You think Guhle, Slaf, Caufield, Barron, Dach, Newhook, et tal are all finished products?
 
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ReHabs said:
He’s developing as a coach too. This season is a write off so whatever. It’s just painful to see a weak injured team be so hopeless. It’s only game 29…

Nonsense. Absent game-breaking talent you play a system that neutralizes the opponent’s talent and evens the odds. The NZ Trap for instance.

But that’s not what we want…

I would more readily accept this if players showed progress. Largely, they have not shown year on year improvement.
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What's it been almost 2 seasons with Marty? The whole team has been structured from the top down with development in mind, it's going to take more time.
 
ReHabs said:
He’s developing as a coach too. This season is a write off so whatever. It’s just painful to see a weak injured team be so hopeless. It’s only game 29…

Nonsense. Absent game-breaking talent you play a system that neutralizes the opponent’s talent and evens the odds. The NZ Trap for instance.

But that’s not what we want…

I would more readily accept this if players showed progress. Largely, they have not shown year on year improvement.
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I agree he’s learning on the job, but I disagree that any year should be a write off.

Pick something and focus on getting better at it.
So far everything is progressively worse.

It is what it is, I think he’ll be fired by this time next year. Which is a shame because I think he can be a good coach. He only got his job because he’s boys with the gm and French
 
ReHabs said:
Probably better to let him work through it, I figure
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You pay someone 7M to work through things... that looks very Bergevin like :)

Caufield is not a player that can carry the team unless he is surrounded with appropriate cast... and looks like he isn't. Hence he can't do jackshit. Besides, other teams know that they only have to shut down 2 players ... and they are both on the same line. easy peasy.
 
HabbyGuy said:
What do you mean suddenly? You think Guhle, Slaf, Caufield, Barron, Dach, Newhook, et tal are all finished products?
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Besides slaf ( who I think he’s doing a great job with)
All those players are NHL players and would benefit from playing in a real system. Same goes for Suzuki
 
HabbyGuy said:
What's it been almost 2 seasons with Marty? The whole team has been structured from the top down with development in mind, it's going to take more time.
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Not benching players and being easy on losses is fine. But the individual players are not showing sufficient growth. That’s anti-development.
 
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Theodore450 said:
I agree he’s learning on the job, but I disagree that any year should be a write off.

Pick something and focus on getting better at it.
So far everything is progressively worse.

It is what it is, I think he’ll be fired by this time next year. Which is a shame because I think he can be a good coach. He only got his job because he’s boys with the gm and French
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Fired or not in the future, Marty is literally the perfect coach for this team at this time, in my opinion.
 
The Real Timo said:
You pay someone 7M to work through things... that looks very Bergevin like :)

Caufield is not a player that can carry the team unless he is surrounded with appropriate cast... and looks like he isn't. Hence he can't do jackshit. Besides, other teams know that they only have to shut down 2 players ... and they are both on the same line. easy peasy.
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Bergevin coaches would scratch and bench. But the mandate then was to win games.

Now it is to lose games, I guess? I don’t know anymore.
 
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