Post-Game Talk: GAME #26 - Pasta saves the B's in OT - BRUINS 4 Florida 3 F/OT

[Fenway]

Last one was election night too.

Both times, I'm more looking forward to Bruins, Canadiens.

Boston at Montreal should be on a Saturday night - Hockey Night in Canada but no.......

Montreal wants the games on their local telecast RDS and not rival TVA which has the Saturday night national francophone rights.

Compounding the issue is the most popular NFL team in Montreal happens to be Nouvelle-Angleterre because every Pats game is beamed into Montreal from Vermont.

 

[BruinDust]

Thank you Cam Neely for killing Chiarelli deal with Arizona for Vermette (UFA-2-be) & Yandle and not giving up there 2014 first round pick

That was in 2015. Pasta was already on the team.

 

[bbfan419]

Pastrnak had two very nice goals last night, but that pass he made to Marchand was incredible, from behind the net and through 4 Florida players right on the tape to Marchand, Luongo got a small piece of it other wise it was heading top corner.

 

[Mount Kramer Cameras]

Pastrnak had two very nice goals last night, but that pass he made to Marchand was incredible, from behind the net and through 4 Florida players right on the tape to Marchand, Luongo got a small piece of it other wise it was heading top corner.

When he made that play you almost felt the stadium collectively think 'the prophecies are true... he is the chosen one'

 

[ODAAT]

some observations from tonight's game.

Pasta - forgettaboutit

McQuaid/Krug Duo was just brutal tonight.

Rask - While this wasn't his best game, in spite of the 3 goals he was still very solid.

Chara - Very good, especially for someone returning from injury.

Spooner - Good game, we need to see more of that from him.

Backes - Excellent game for him, engaged and ready to pay the price .

Schaller - While he's out of his league on the Backes/Krecji line at least he's not totally putrid.

C.Miller - Still struggling, with all his natural talent he gives it all away with very poor hockey IQ.


Blidh - I'll pass.

Brick stated and I agree, Spooner`s best game of the year. That said, Brick also stated his (Spooner`s) biggest issue is/has been consistency so I`ll hold my breath and wait to see if he brings "it" more. I like Spooner, not nearly as much as many here. Loads of nights I see him moving quickly but doing little, and if I hammer DK for moving slow and doing little, I can`t ignore the opposite with Spooner.

C Miller is frustrating, skill is there, not sure the head is, one sequence last night he made a solid play defensively, took the puck away from a Panther on a nice play then immediately shot the boards around to the other side where not one Bruin was, when he had time, tape to tape pass to a Panther D-man

Blidh- disagree, the kid plays positionally sound, brings energy, most likely a 4th liner, at best a 3rd, think he`d survive on the 3rd but the 4th line is where he should be at this time.

Many screaming at CJ over the years for hating to play kids but two minutes left and there was Blidh on the ice, problem is, kids make mistakes, and if you watch the highlight on the late tying goal, that was Blidh`s man who snuck behind him and THAT, is why, more often than not, most coaches would opt for a vet on the ice in place of a younger player

 

[Gee Wally]

A few nifty moves by David Pastrnak lifted Bruins in overtime
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/b...er-panthers/EecZ9HUyDvZz8qQ62eANsM/story.html



David Pastrnak created the play, then finished in style
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/b...ored-winner/KhAxaG2AyQwDtdDmhRIGSP/story.html

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

That net drive by Schaller tells me you gotta keep him. That simply play leads to so many goals, and so few guys on the team bother with it. Hopefully in the film room that analyze the crap out of that one and more guys start to try it.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

man- some of pasta movements and reach remind me of a jagr/Lemieux.
that reach is the killer though. Its something Seguin never had when he was here.

I just hope we don't let this one get away

 

[Blowfish]

man- some of pasta movements and reach remind me of a jagr/Lemieux.
that reach is the killer though. Its something Seguin never had when he was here.

I just hope we don't let this one get away

Hopefully he sticks to curfew

 

[LSCII]

Brick stated and I agree, Spooner`s best game of the year. That said, Brick also stated his (Spooner`s) biggest issue is/has been consistency so I`ll hold my breath and wait to see if he brings "it" more. I like Spooner, not nearly as much as many here. Loads of nights I see him moving quickly but doing little, and if I hammer DK for moving slow and doing little, I can`t ignore the opposite with Spooner.

C Miller is frustrating, skill is there, not sure the head is, one sequence last night he made a solid play defensively, took the puck away from a Panther on a nice play then immediately shot the boards around to the other side where not one Bruin was, when he had time, tape to tape pass to a Panther D-man

Blidh- disagree, the kid plays positionally sound, brings energy, most likely a 4th liner, at best a 3rd, think he`d survive on the 3rd but the 4th line is where he should be at this time.

Many screaming at CJ over the years for hating to play kids but two minutes left and there was Blidh on the ice, problem is, kids make mistakes, and if you watch the highlight on the late tying goal, that was Blidh`s man who snuck behind him and THAT, is why, more often than not, most coaches would opt for a vet on the ice in place of a younger player

This is what the perception is, versus the reality. IMO, people aren't saying he won't play any kids, specifically. It's that he won't play kids that are mainly offensively minded. He'll play a kid with a defensive minded game all day long and twice on Sunday. It's just the kids that have an offensive game with offensive upside that haven't fully committed to a two way game that he won't integrate into the lineup if he's given a choice. And that's what frustrates me because other teams figure out ways to get the benefits of the young offensive minded players in the lineup while the rest of their game develops. But with Claude, you have to be defensively aware before he gives you a real shot.

 

[bbfan419]

When he made that play you almost felt the stadium collectively think 'the prophecies are true... he is the chosen one'

LOL not sure if he is the chosen one or not, but I am sure glad the Bruins chose him in the draft that year instead of some stay at home defensemen they normally chose in that spot. With the young talent on the way up, Vatrano hopefully coming back soon and pays well, the future looks bright. Czarnik, Kuraly, Blidh, Schaller those guys have done well for their parts, Carol has been fantastic, but Pastrnak is the star type of player we have need for awhile. Seguin we thought would be that guy and he easily could have been, but Pastrnak is everything we wanted Seguin to be.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Yup..........almost exactly 12 months ago.

Montreal has played very well at home this year but on the road not exactly.

Bruins desperately need to win in Montreal in regulation next Monday night to send a mental message that this is still a rivalry.

It is also borderline absurd that next week is the Bruins last visit to Montreal this season and we play them one more time in Boston on February 12th.

AND how clueless in the NHL for scheduling a Bruins/Montreal game head to head with a Patriots Monday Night Football game??????? The NFL schedule comes out first so there is no excuse.

Montreal's collapse will begin as soon as Price is hurt again.

Why would the NHL concern themselves with scheduling B's/Canadiens opposite Pats game?

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Pastrnak had two very nice goals last night, but that pass he made to Marchand was incredible, from behind the net and through 4 Florida players right on the tape to Marchand, Luongo got a small piece of it other wise it was heading top corner.

That was a miraculous pass.

 

[ODAAT]

This is what the perception is, versus the reality. IMO, people aren't saying he won't play any kids, specifically. It's that he won't play kids that are mainly offensively minded. He'll play a kid with a defensive minded game all day long and twice on Sunday. It's just the kids that have an offensive game with offensive upside that haven't fully committed to a two way game that he won't integrate into the lineup if he's given a choice. And that's what frustrates me because other teams figure out ways to get the benefits of the young offensive minded players in the lineup while the rest of their game develops. But with Claude, you have to be defensively aware before he gives you a real shot.

I hear you, don`t necessarily agree as I`m admittedly also more risk averse than many. I also have absolutely not one issue with a coach (whether CJ or otherwise) who demands his players be aware defensively.

I don`t believe for a moment CJ demands perfection, he demands and expects effort and willingness and for those who don`t show one or either, they don`t play, and I have the old school mentality where I have no issues with a coach having expectations like this

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Brick stated and I agree, Spooner`s best game of the year. That said, Brick also stated his (Spooner`s) biggest issue is/has been consistency so I`ll hold my breath and wait to see if he brings "it" more. I like Spooner, not nearly as much as many here. Loads of nights I see him moving quickly but doing little, and if I hammer DK for moving slow and doing little, I can`t ignore the opposite with Spooner.

C Miller is frustrating, skill is there, not sure the head is, one sequence last night he made a solid play defensively, took the puck away from a Panther on a nice play then immediately shot the boards around to the other side where not one Bruin was, when he had time, tape to tape pass to a Panther D-man

Blidh- disagree, the kid plays positionally sound, brings energy, most likely a 4th liner, at best a 3rd, think he`d survive on the 3rd but the 4th line is where he should be at this time.

Many screaming at CJ over the years for hating to play kids but two minutes left and there was Blidh on the ice, problem is, kids make mistakes, and if you watch the highlight on the late tying goal, that was Blidh`s man who snuck behind him and THAT, is why, more often than not, most coaches would opt for a vet on the ice in place of a younger player

You are correct.

Some posters think this is only perception, but its actually reality.

 

[ODAAT]

You are correct.

Some posters think this is only perception, but its actually reality.

and Blidh, from all I have read is a guy who is typically quite sound defensively for a kid his age

On another note, Pasta/Carlo on the ice in OT for the winner............yeah, in years past, Julien would have had Campbell and Paille out for it had the 3 on 3 been in play at that time

Julien is far more receptive these days to, at the very least, give a younger player the opportunity to earn his trust, when it isn`t, he doesn`t play, I`m ok with it


Now, that said, Hayes needs to never pull a Bruins jersey over his head and for that, I can`t understand what the **ll Claude is doing

 

[LSCII]

and Blidh, from all I have read is a guy who is typically quite sound defensively for a kid his age

On another note, Pasta/Carlo on the ice in OT for the winner............yeah, in years past, Julien would have had Campbell and Paille out for it had the 3 on 3 been in play at that time

Julien is far more receptive these days to, at the very least, give a younger player the opportunity to earn his trust, when it isn`t, he doesn`t play, I`m ok with it


Now, that said, Hayes needs to never pull a Bruins jersey over his head and for that, I can`t understand what the **ll Claude is doing

Of course he is, which is exactly the dynamic I was talking about.

 

[LSCII]

I hear you, don`t necessarily agree as I`m admittedly also more risk averse than many. I also have absolutely not one issue with a coach (whether CJ or otherwise) who demands his players be aware defensively.

I don`t believe for a moment CJ demands perfection, he demands and expects effort and willingness and for those who don`t show one or either, they don`t play, and I have the old school mentality where I have no issues with a coach having expectations like this

Risk aversion is fine to a point, but when it becomes all encompassing, and impedes the development of the youth, while you're in a rebuild, it's a problem, IMO.

 

[ODAAT]

Of course he is, which is exactly the dynamic I was talking about.

Again, I understand, and again, I have absolutely no issues with a coach demanding of his players that they actually have a clue what their role is defensively.

Look, it`s not a secret how CJ and the Bruins upper management feels about 3 zone hockey. If I`m a player in the system and I want my shot, I would do my best to be working on that aspect of my game. Spooner has the offensive side down, he needs to focus on making better decisions in his own zone.

again, I think Spoons is vastly over rated by far too many on this board. Nice player, terribly inconsistent

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

and Blidh, from all I have read is a guy who is typically quite sound defensively for a kid his age

On another note, Pasta/Carlo on the ice in OT for the winner............yeah, in years past, Julien would have had Campbell and Paille out for it had the 3 on 3 been in play at that time

Julien is far more receptive these days to, at the very least, give a younger player the opportunity to earn his trust, when it isn`t, he doesn`t play, I`m ok with it


Now, that said, Hayes needs to never pull a Bruins jersey over his head and for that, I can`t understand what the **ll Claude is doing

As I recall, wasn't Julien the first coach to use 3 forwards and 1 defensemen consistently to start overtime periods?

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

Terrific game to watch. Glimpses of what the Bruins offence can truly produce. That offensive breakout game is coming much sooner than later. Hey, we did have 4 games of offensive output realized in one game after all.

Welcome back Zee, you were missed. Hats off to #88 and #51. Outstanding. Great response from 51 in his return from the dog house. Keep having thoughts of Marc Savard who similarly struggled as a young talented offensive player trying to establish himself in the league as a regular. He had holes in his game that held him back. He persevered and figured it out and them some. Can only hope that Spooner might follow his lead and harness his full potential. He may one day haunt the Bruins should that happen with another team. These situations can take on a life of their own. Rooting for you to make it Ryan.

Happy with the teams progression. Now off to the Capital for the next big test. Keep in rolling Bruins!

 

[ODAAT]

Risk aversion is fine to a point, but when it becomes all encompassing, and impedes the development of the youth, while you're in a rebuild, it's a problem, IMO.

agreed however, I think both of us could look at the youth that Julien, and his staff over the years have helped bring along to be solid pieces in this organization.

Every fan base can pick a few players that they feel weren`t given their shot, every coach has his whipping boy, maybe Spoons is it for Julien, I don`t know, don`t care, if I`m sitting at home frustrated at his inconsistency and notice it easily, not sure how much more evident it is watching it live.

Last night I watched Spooner play assertive in all 3 zones, now, get back to me in 10 games and if he`s still doing it, I`ll happily give him the earned praise. I don`t think it`s too much to ask a younger player to commit to three zone play. The B`s have how often been in the top 10 of scoring under Julien`s system? He ain`t perfect, but he`s pretty good

 

[ODAAT]

As I recall, wasn't Julien the first coach to use 3 forwards and 1 defensemen consistently to start overtime periods?

might have been DB, can`t recall

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Again, I understand, and again, I have absolutely no issues with a coach demanding of his players that they actually have a clue what their role is defensively.

Look, it`s not a secret how CJ and the Bruins upper management feels about 3 zone hockey. If I`m a player in the system and I want my shot, I would do my best to be working on that aspect of my game. Spooner has the offensive side down, he needs to focus on making better decisions in his own zone.

again, I think Spoons is vastly over rated by far too many on this board. Nice player, terribly inconsistent

I think the secret is that almost all NHL teams feel that way about 3 zone hockey.

 

[ODAAT]

I think the secret is that almost all NHL teams feel that way about 3 zone hockey.

wait, you mean Julien isn`t the only coach who tries to implement defensive zone awareness?

Coulda fooled me