Post-Game Talk: GAME #23 - Flyers beat B's in a 9 round shootout - Philadelphia 3 BRUINS 2 F/SO

[bobbyorr04]

Great game by bruins. And how about Morrow and Miller. Love the speed and slick passing. Krug and Mcquaid ugggglyyy night. Yikes

Krug had a rough 1st and 2nd period, but then was the spark that lit the fire under the Bruins ass in the third to help the B's get a point tonight.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Anybody could make a logical case for a lot of guys to go in the top 3.

Jimmy Hayes was 100% on his last shootout attempt and looked incredible doing it.

Why not him?

The way Marchand looked tonight, it was simply silly to not use him early.

If Sandy Leon is 6 for 10 against a closer and David Ortiz is available to hit for him in the 9th with the game on the line, what do you do?

I know what I'd do,

This is honestly the biggest strawman argument I have EVER, EVER, EVER seen on this board.

Congratulations.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

We're talking 11-12 tries. Not exactly a huge number.

I freely admit that before this thread I didn't know if Nash was 0-51 or 15 for 10 ------but it still wouldn't matter.

Even with what I know now, there is no way in the world he should go anywhere sooner than 5.

Oh, now it all makes sense.

You didn't know that the choice made perfect sense, but then when you figured out it made perfect sense you were in too deep and had to continue ruthlessly objecting to it.

You were criticizing it as if Claude pulled it completely out of his ass and didn't change your argument one bit upon learning about the actual numbers.

This board I tell ya.

 

[JRull86]

My honest question, why do the Bruins dominate teams and lose while making poor goalies look like Vezina winners?

It has happened over and over, doubling up on the shots and still losing.

Coaching
Players
System
Management

What is it, because it is happening far too often.

They take a ton of low percentage shots.

 

[NDiesel]

I don't care about meaningless, small sample statistics.

Nash isn't as talented as any of the 5-7 guys I'd pick before him.

Therefore, I'd go with at least 7 others every time.

And if the did it tonight...they get 2 points instead of 1.

If Voracek goes 3rd we lose.

The beauty of hindsight.

 

[sarge88]

This is honestly the biggest strawman argument I have EVER, EVER, EVER seen on this board.

Congratulations.

But, because a grinder got a lucky bounce or two during a whopping 11-12 shootout attempts, he's a lock to go instead of a guy who has over 125 more goals than he has.

Sound logic there.

 

[DitClapper]

3 stars

Rask
Krug
Krejci

3 guys that were a bit off
1. Pasta
2. Bergeron
3. Claude

Bergeron needs to get that ankle worked on.
He's ailing. And it's glaring.

 

[VanIsle]

I just believe your best players and highest paid stars should at least shoot close to the top 3.

Pasta was the only - player at -1

47 shots and 2 measley goals.

Depressing

 

[DKH]

Last year they missed the playoffs by 1 point and here's why

http://www.csnne.com/boston-bruins/Talking-Points-No-Brad-Marchand-in-shootout

 

[sarge88]

Oh, now it all makes sense.

You didn't know that the choice made perfect sense, but then when you figured out it made perfect sense you were in too deep and had to continue ruthlessly objecting to it.

You were criticizing it as if Claude pulled it completely out of his ass and didn't change your argument one bit upon learning about the actual numbers.

This board I tell ya.

I was totally honest and opened myself up with the post you quoted.

Now I'll ask you to be honest.....

A man holds a gun to your head and says you can choose Riley Nash or Brad Marchand to take a shootout....if he scores you live....if he doesn't you die...

Who do you choose?

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

If Voracek goes 3rd we lose.

The beauty of hindsight.

Exactly.

Because Marchand scored to tie it in round #6 doesn't guarantee he'd of scored in Round #3. Different situation could lead to different result (#1 son).

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

But, because a grinder got a lucky bounce or two during a whopping 11-12 shootout attempts, he's a lock to go instead of a guy who has over 125 more goals than he has.

Sound logic there.

You're talking about logic yet you just told me that a guy got a lucky bounce or two...and then scored 6 or 7 shootout goals. It's hard to believe what I am reading.

This all after you admitted that you actually didn't know about Riley Nash's statistics in the shootout until this thread when you started receiving criticism based on a complaint in which you thought Claude was just pulling **** out of his ass.

You're flailing admirably, but it's probably about time to pack it in.

The Canucks have avoided shootouts for years with Daniel Sedin because he's so shamefully bad despite being an extremely talented players in those years. It's not because they think Daniel isn't a good player, or he's a worse hockey player than those other shooters, it's because they're playing the odds and trying to win the hockey game.

 

[DKH]

Despite my thoughts on the shootout, I'm happy with the point.

Just frustrated they didn't get the win, when it was there for the taking.

Good to see some gumption!

April 5 2016 Claude passes on Marchand 6 times vs Carolina

Bruins lose on SO and eventually miss playoffs by 1 point

Marchand not in top 3 is absurd

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I was totally honest and opened myself up with the post you quoted.

Now I'll ask you to be honest.....

A man holds a gun to your head and says you can choose Riley Nash or Brad Marchand to take a shootout....if he scores you live....if he doesn't you die...

Who do you choose?

I play the percentages. You already know the answer.

Again, the flail Sarge. Strawman arguments. Please stop. You're now trying to introduce lethal weapons into the conversation to make your point. You're completely separating the situation from reality to try to make your point. There's no merit to any of it.

 

[PlayMakers]

3 stars

Rask
Krug
Krejci

3 guys that were a bit off
1. Pasta
2. Bergeron
3. Claude
4. DKH

Now it makes sense.

 

[DKH]

I was totally honest and opened myself up with the post you quoted.

Now I'll ask you to be honest.....

A man holds a gun to your head and says you can choose Riley Nash or Brad Marchand to take a shootout....if he scores you live....if he doesn't you die...

Who do you choose?

I'm with you Al.

Jimmy Hayes was 1 for 1.

Why not him over Nash

Claude won't be able to sleep tonight

 

[sarge88]

You're talking about logic yet you just told me that a guy got a lucky bounce or two...and then scored 6 or 7 shootout goals. It's hard to believe what I am reading.

This all after you admitted that you actually didn't know about Riley Nash's statistics in the shootout until this thread when you started receiving criticism based on a complaint in which you thought Claude was just pulling **** out of his ass.

You're flailing admirably, but it's probably about time to pack it in.

The Canucks have avoided shootouts for years with Daniel Sedin because he's so shamefully bad despite being an extremely talented players in those years. It's not because they think Daniel isn't a good player, or he's a worse hockey player than those other shooters, it's because they're playing the odds and trying to win the hockey game.

Considering I've been watching the Bruins since the 70's there's no doubt in my mind that everything any coach does is for a reason.

Doesn't mean I need to agree with those reasons.

Again...gun to your head, life on the line...

Nash or Marchand?

 

[VanIsle]

April 5 2016 Claude passes on Marchand 6 times vs Carolina

Bruins lose on SO and eventually miss playoffs by 1 point

Marchand not in top 3 is absurd

Thank you.

Along with Pasta tied for 2nd in league scoring.

Grade school math.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I'm with you Al.

Jimmy Hayes was 1 for 1.

Why not him over Nash

Claude won't be able to sleep tonight

So what we learned tonight is that DKH and Sarge think 1 for 1 is the same as 7 for 12.

 

[DKH]

Now it makes sense.

Guys like me never have an off night

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Considering I've been watching the Bruins since the 70's there's no doubt in my mind that everything any coach does is for a reason.

Doesn't mean I need to agree with those reasons.

Again...gun to your head, life on the line...

Nash or Marchand?

I already answered it. Scroll up.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Considering I've been watching the Bruins since the 70's there's no doubt in my mind that everything any coach does is for a reason.

Doesn't mean I need to agree with those reasons.

Again...gun to your head, life on the line...

Nash or Marchand?

Misinterpreted.

 

[sarge88]

I play the percentages. You already know the answer.

Again, the flail Sarge. Strawman arguments. Please stop. You're now trying to introduce lethal weapons into the conversation to make your point. You're completely separating the situation from reality to try to make your point. There's no merit to any of it.

I do know the answer.

Nobody alive chooses Nash.

So, in every situation you just go by the %?

Beleskey wins 3 face offs in a game, so he takes a defensive zone face off with 25 seconds left of a tie game over Bergeron?

Sometimes you have to look at things through a different lens.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

But, because a grinder got a lucky bounce or two during a whopping 11-12 shootout attempts, he's a lock to go instead of a guy who has over 125 more goals than he has.

Sound logic there.

Actually, virtually zero logic in your statement.

Who gets lucky bounces in shootouts? Its one on one.

125 more goals during game situations has nothing to do with shootout ability.

 

[VanIsle]

In all reality the shootout shouldn't have happened.

Another game that went to long because of the inability to score in regular time.

0-4 on the pp