Laval Rocket: Game #21 vs. Belleville Senators (7PM ET on RDS, AHL TV, TSN690 & BPM Sports)

[Nicko999]

Roy was leading the ahl for a time. Farrell was close to a point a game. It’s coaching.

It's been coaching for 30 years. When every single coach yield the same result, one has to find issues with players.
If Houle had McDavid and had the same results then we can say it's the coach.
But the guy is coaching a bunch of mediocre players save for a few.

And no, I am not a fan of Houle. Just saying changing won't magically make this team a powerhouse.

 

[Nicko999]

Does your characterization of trash include: Hutson; Reinbacher; Engstrom; Fowler; Beck; Mesar; and Mailloux? One has to be careful about broad generalizations.

Compare it with other team's prospects. It's nothing to brag about. Beck, Mesar? Are you kidding me? Other teams have prospects with PPG+ potential and here we are talking about maybe a third liner at best and another player who a long shot at this moment.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

If the farm is a mess, it's a testament to how bad the drafting has been, especially at the forward position.

But you also need to realize that Barron, Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj (except for this stint) all graduated probably effected the quality of the prospects in the ahl.

Big time on the 2nd paragraph. I doubt all those guys graduating instantly was part of the plan

 

[salbutera]

Who gives a rats ass if Laval wins any games or not?

The AHL objective is to get to a point where they can cultivate & graduate 1-NHL regular per season.

If Struble maintains performance, Laval coaching staff has met this seasons objective.

BTW - can’t name one NHL team that’s been able to achieve that level of success for 5-consecutive years or more during cap era - a few rebuilding teams gush out players for 2 maybe 3 seasons, then flatline

 

[Rapala]

Who gives a rats ass if Laval wins any games or not?

The AHL objective is to get to a point where they can cultivate & graduate 1-NHL regular per season.

If Struble maintains performance, Laval coaching staff has met this seasons objective.

BTW - can’t name one NHL team that’s been able to achieve that level of success for 5-consecutive years or more during cap era - a few rebuilding teams gush out players for 2 maybe 3 seasons, then flatline

Yeah Okay.
Being able to compete IS important something Laval hasn't shown they are capable of this season. As for Struble he's very much the same player we got from Northeastern. What in the actual bleep has Laval done to improve his game other than opening the gate...

And they've f***ed that up too on occasion if truth be told.

C'mon man he played 9 games last season with Laval and was already noted as one of their best defenders before the season ended.
He's played 12 games with Laval this season. That is some coaching staff if they can take credit for Struble.
Their merit will be judged on the progress of players like Roy and Mailloux.

 

[salbutera]

Yeah Okay.
Being able to compete IS important something Laval hasn't shown they are capable of this season. As for Struble he's very much the same player we got from Northeastern. What in the actual bleep has Laval done to improve his game other than opening the gate...

And they've f***ed that up too on occasion if truth be told.

Struble’s entire issue at prep school & college was trying to always force execution of high risk low probability plays, he’s playing within his means now and being steady - not for one shift or one game, he’s carried over his Laval game of this season to Habs. His game in Laval after signing late last season (granted small sample set) had the same issues of being scattered . So yeah…whether it’s Laval or simply maturity there’s more calmness to his game

I’ve always been transparent, I think the magic known as “development” is pure bunk! It’s all about when a player gains maturity, as any parent can attest to, this happens at different times for different kids within the same family construct

 

[Rapala]

Struble’s entire issue at prep school & college was trying to always force execution of high risk low probability plays, he’s playing within his means now and being steady - not for one shift or one game, he’s carried over his Laval game of this season to Habs. His game in Laval after signing late last season (granted small sample set) had the same issues of being scattered . So yeah…whether it’s Laval or simply maturity there’s more calmness to his game

I’ve always been transparent, I think the magic known as “development” is pure bunk! It’s all about when a player gains maturity, as any parent can attest to, this happens at different times for different kids within the same family construct

Try again this is false. I watched Struble at the end of his tenure and this is not who he was...
Like at all.

Good Coaching is putting players in a position to succeed nothing more nothing less. In Struble's case he forced their hand period. He was a far better player than people gave him credit for and that trend continues.

 

[salbutera]

Try again this is false. I watched Struble at the end of his tenure and this is not who he was...
Like at all.

Good Coaching is putting players in a position to succeed nothing more nothing less. In Struble's case he forced their hand period. He was a far better player than people gave him credit for and that trend continues.

Pls - I watched him at St Sebastian’s & Northeastern, he would be getting caught out of position or trying to make impossible outlet passes from deep in his zone repeatedly.

 

[montreal]

The AHL objective is to get to a point where they can cultivate & graduate 1-NHL regular per season.

If Struble maintains performance, Laval coaching staff has met this seasons objective.

Why 1 NHL regular? and How does Struble playing 12 games in the AHL give the Laval coaching staff a pass on the season? What did he learn in 12 games that would make up for the rest of the team looking like shit?

 

[salbutera]

Why 1 NHL regular? and How does Struble playing 12 games in the AHL give the Laval coaching staff a pass on the season? What did he learn in 12 games that would make up for the rest of the team looking like shit?

How about the fact Struble seemingly can take a regular shift at NHL level and not look out of place?

Again there isn’t one team in the league that can claim they’ve been able to graduate minimum 1-NHL regular prospect every years for 5-years or more consecutively in the cap era. That simply goes to show how difficult it is to achieve. Sure I’d like to see 5-players graduate every season but that’s completely unrealistic.

Furthermore the AHL is no longer the the major development center for NHL teams and is having minimal impact w each passing season

 

[montreal]

How about the fact Struble seemingly can take a regular shift at NHL level and not look out of place?

Again there isn’t one team in the league that can claim they’ve been able to graduate minimum 1-NHL regular prospect every years for 5-years or more consecutively in the cap era. That simply goes to show how difficult it is to achieve. Sure I’d like to see 5-players graduate every season but that’s completely unrealistic.

Furthermore the AHL is no longer the the major development center for NHL teams and is having minimal impact w each passing season

He had 4 years in the NCAA, what do you think he learned in 12 games that gives the coach a pass on every other player.

Do you have the data that shows the AHL is no longer the development center for NHL teams, last I heard over 80% of every NHLer played in the AHL.

 

[salbutera]

He had 4 years in the NCAA, what do you think he learned in 12 games that gives the coach a pass on every other player.

Do you have the data that shows the AHL is no longer the development center for NHL teams, last I heard over 80% of every NHLer played in the AHL.

It’s becoming less & less so w more American kids entering from college, and Euros having out clauses to go back home if they don’t make the NHL roster, combined w decline of players entering from CHL, who were the vast majority of those serving time in AHL

 

[montreal]

It’s becoming less & less so w more American kids entering from college, and Euros having out clauses to go back home if they don’t make the NHL roster, combined w decline of players entering from CHL, who were the vast majority of those serving time in AHL

do you have any links to back that up?

The Euro thing was put into the PTA's, non 1st rounders under contract in the Euro league before they signed by an NHL team have to be loaned back.

 

[BJCOLLINS]

So 21 gms. I’m “still” not seeing player development from this coaching staff. I keep watching the alumni coaching connection and nothing…..nothing in Laval and have you seen the Habs PP? I have always read that the NHL is a results driven league, does this not apply to the Habs alumni hiring committee? Asking for a friend, cheers.

 

[Treb]

If the farm is a mess, it's a testament to how bad the drafting has been, especially at the forward position.

But you also need to realize that Barron, Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj (except for this stint) all graduated probably effected the quality of the prospects in the ahl.

Uhh... Laval is 7th for goals for.

The problem is on the defensive side as they are last in the AHL by far.