Post-Game Talk: Game #2 Pens vs Wings: Much better game

[Genetic]

It's not really the fact that Jarry, the "starter" for this team, is making a bit under $5.5M AAV. It's that he sucks, he's volatile as hell, he routinely craters in the final 3-4 months of the season, he has injury issues, and he's an unlikable whiner.

Paying your starter what the Pens are paying Jarry is fine. Jarry's just a mess. /shrug

A whiner? What did I miss? Or did you mean to call him a wiener?

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Well... then I guess that's on the league GMs to learn from their mistakes all over again.

You don't pay this position. One big money goaltender finally winning one doesn't really change my mind on that.

It WOULD be nice if the side effect is that Jarry's deal looks more palatable. But we'll see.

I'm fine with paying a great goalie great money.

The problem is that the position is so volatile and there are so few great goalies. Jarry isn't one of them. He's replacement level, as we find out every time he's replaced by a goalie making a fraction of his salary.

 

[Gurglesons]

A whiner? What did I miss? Or did you mean to call him a wiener?

He is constantly blaming the team for his goals.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

A whiner? What did I miss? Or did you mean to call him a Weiner?

It just feels like he's always making excuses; saying some vague shit about "if you guys only knew the injuries I was dealing with" etc.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

In fairness to Yzerman, the Wings have had horrible luck in the draft lottery. This is why I caution those Pens fans who want to leap headlong into the tank because you can get stuck in that for a while if the lottery balls don't bounce your way.

Them and Buffalo are great examples of how tanking isn't guaranteed to lead to success.

A lotta problems on that roster. Husso was a dice roll that hasn't worked out to this point. Let's see what Talbot can do at 38. He was very good last year.

Didn't like the Copp signing for them at the time and still don't. Overpaid. Would have allocated that money to a top-4 D. You can't leave a blue line that barren and expect success.
Seider should have been given a bridge deal before throwing 7 x 8.5M at him. He was crap last year and is not deserving of that bag yet.
They lack defensively responsible Forwards as well.

Poor drafting luck is a valid mention, but I see bad roster construction choices here too.
Oh and Lalonde is not an NHL calibre coach.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Yeah, as good as Yzerman's time with the Bolts was (and how much of it was up to scouts/drafting/development?), this Wings tenure has been El Stinko Grande.

It’s always humbling to see some of the greatest on-ice minds of the NHL become absolutely awful GMs, lol.

And how many of those accounts are actually you?

One. The one I’m now replying to.

Also, if you’re wondering SEAL is my alcoholic pervert account that I use to shit post with.

 

[Andy99]

lol…nothing we don’t expect…

So, Roundtable members, plant your flag with a proclamation of a gut feeling about the 2024-25 season.

MATT LARKIN: I swear I was already feeling this before the Game 1 humiliation: The Pittsburgh Penguins are a lottery-grade hockey team. General manager Kyle Dubas took a team riding consecutive playoff misses and…made only depth-level additions over the offseason. Not only that, but Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Kris Letang and Erik Karlsson all miraculously played every single game last season. There’s almost no chance of that happening again. The Pens lack depth, their best players are also their oldest players, and I expect them to finish with their lowest points percentage since 2005-06, Crosby’s rookie year.

Gut feelings for 2024-25: Lottery Penguins, playoff Sabres and more

In the season’s first Roundtable, we plant our flags on some hot takes.

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