GDT: GAME 2 HURRICANES @ PANDAS

[Jordan Belfort]

I will do it. I will coach the power play. I've seen enough of them to know that the opposite of what they've been doing is key.

Hahahaha

 

[Brad Meador]

This series is far from over. The canes have plenty of time to come back.

Win game 3 and go from there. Remember, Boston is a part of history in the playoffs. They're one of 4 teams to blow a 3-0 lead in the playoffs when Philly came back from that deficit in 2010. Let's not put ourselves in that hole but I do think we need to win game 3. We play better at home so I don't think the next two games will be a problem.

We've also come back from this deficit before vs Washington. Even though we played better in DC then we did in game 2 a loss is a loss. Losses like this are easier to flush than a 3-2 OT loss or something like that.

Game 1 was great until the 3rd period. If we can play like that in game 3 and after we'll be in good shape.

 

[Lempo]

I will do it. I will coach the power play. I've seen enough of them to know that the opposite of what they've been doing is key.

George Costanza school of Canes Power Play.

 

[3CanesInTheBox]

We have had goals from Brock, kegger, foegele, Faulk etc to name a few. Scoring depth is not out issue. I think Justin Williams interview said a lot when he basically talked about them reading their own press a bit. Just can’t give that kind of effort.

Boston is not some immaculate team otherwise they would have come to us off two sweeps.

They are excellent however and we will have to play much better to beat them (pretty low bar though). I still think this series is winnable.

 

[3CanesInTheBox]

Correct, worrying about layin the hammer is making them get out of defensive position. Leading to odd man rushes. Bruins want them to continue that

I agree. I do wonder if maybe Rod was thinking we could wear them down playing physical over a long series. but if we continue on this trajectory it won't be very long (lol!) so time to reset.

 

[DougieSmash]

Now the owners of a 2-0 series lead over the Carolina Hurricanes in the Eastern Conference Final, the Bruins not only have confidence on their side after a lopsided 6-2 victory. They also have history.

The NHL communications department shared this nugget after the Bruins won on Sunday: Since 1982, a team that’s taken a 2-0 series lead in a conference final has gone on to win that series 93.8 percent of the time.

Those are pretty strong numbers in Boston’s favor.

Now, the counterargument to these odds would be that the Hurricanes overcame a 2-0 series deficit just last month against the defending-champion Washington Capitals. The NHL was prepared for such a case to be made, as the follow-up tweet noted that the 2011 Bruins and 2009 Penguins were the only two teams in NHL history to overcome two separate 2-0 series deficits in a single postseason.

Yeah. Cool. It's pretty much over.

 

[3CanesInTheBox]

I'm actually still optimistic about this series, but had to post this lol:

Canes' Moms after the Mothers Day Massacre:

 

[Brad Meador]

Even though it is hard...it's been done TWICE...so it's not impossible. I'm not giving up on this series and team until we're officially eliminated. They've surprised us many times and bounced back before and at this point haven't lost at home. If that continues these next two games it's a new series.

 

[3CanesInTheBox]

Now the owners of a 2-0 series lead over the Carolina Hurricanes in the Eastern Conference Final, the Bruins not only have confidence on their side after a lopsided 6-2 victory. They also have history.

The NHL communications department shared this nugget after the Bruins won on Sunday: Since 1982, a team that’s taken a 2-0 series lead in a conference final has gone on to win that series 93.8 percent of the time.

Those are pretty strong numbers in Boston’s favor.

Now, the counterargument to these odds would be that the Hurricanes overcame a 2-0 series deficit just last month against the defending-champion Washington Capitals. The NHL was prepared for such a case to be made, as the follow-up tweet noted that the 2011 Bruins and 2009 Penguins were the only two teams in NHL history to overcome two separate 2-0 series deficits in a single postseason.

Yeah. Cool. It's pretty much over.

What were the percentage chances--at the beginning of this season--of beating the defending champs in double OT of game 7, sweeping the Isles, and making it to the ECF?

 

[Chrispy]

It's not impossible, but it is rare that a team good enough to win 4 of the remaining 5 games goes down 0-2 on multiple occasions.

Heading home should help a lot. I think getting last change is an underrated advantage for RBA, and against Boston it's vital. Need to go back to Boston tied.

I felt like the first goal was not good, but I oddly felt like the second goal was even more deflating. Great save by Mrazek on a deflection, necessary penalty by Williams to prevent the rebound goal, only to have Boston score on the PP in 3 seconds. Kill that off and I think they can build some momentum.

I'm OK with either goalie starting game 3, but either way I want Mrazek back next season. He's been very good here and I think he's a good medium-term solution in goal while we see if any of the goalie prospects are ready.

 

[Brad Meador]

I wonder what the two were that came back from an 0-2 lead in the CF? Boston and Pitt were the teams that came back from two 0-2 deficits but none of those were in the CF. Two teams did it and I wonder if they're recent teams (like within the last ten years or way back in the 90's or so).

Found them: In 1984 the Islanders came back from an 0-2 in the finals vs the Canadians to win in 6 games and the 91 Penguins came back vs Boston to win in 6 games. Took some digging but it hasn't been done in over 25 years.

Since then a lot of teams have come back down o-2 to only lose in 6 or 7 games in the finals.

The teams above are a part of the 2 that came back to win.

 

[GoldiFox]

It was going to be a hard task to take either game in Boston. It would have been considered a monumental win if the Canes had taken one. The home team is expected to win and Boston has one of the best teams in the league, it is what it is. I'm not worried about the series until the Canes lose one at home. Boston taking games 1 and 2 was to be expected, it is very far from the nail in the coffin.

As for the statistics being down 0-2, that really doesn't matter IMO. Canes are undefeated at home and have a huge home advantage. Rod's tactical deficiencies are masked a bit and the team is built on energy players who feed on the home crowd.

I believe McE will start Game 4 and will continue to start moving forward. Only way Mrazek gets another chance is if 1) McE implodes next game, 2) McE wins this series and then falters in Game 1/2 next series, or 3) injury. In any case I would lean towards signing Mrazek this offseason with Nedeljkovic being the 1B next year. Only case I'd push hard to keep McE is if he wins this series and even then I'd want to re-sign both M&M.

 

[DougieSmash]

I wonder what the two were that came back from an 0-2 lead in the CF? Boston and Pitt were the teams that came back from two 0-2 deficits but none of those were in the CF. Two teams did it and I wonder if they're recent teams (like within the last ten years or way back in the 90's or so).

I wonder about that, too. I just check every Conference final in this century (obv since 2000)... nothing. It's before that.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

that was Not Good®

 

[Brad Meador]

I wonder about that, too. I just check every Conference final in this century (obv since 2000)... nothing. It's before that.

I found it: 1984 Islanders trailed Montreal 0-2 and won the next 4 and 1991 Pittsburgh Penguins trailed Boston 0-2 and won the next 4.

Hasn't happened in nearly 30 years.

 

[LostInaLostWorld]

Something I don't see mentioned is TVR or the lack thereof. He pretty much flies under the radar but plays a solid D game. Nothing against Fleury but Rod sure doesn't seem as comfortable playing him. Look at his ice time vs what we could have had with TVR and all the associated pairings, etc. that might have come if he is in the lineup.

 

[Canes]

Fleury has been playing fine, IMO. Him playing vs. TvR is certainly not the difference in this series. We have just been outplayed in pretty much every phase. Our best players haven't been good enough and the depth behind them can't be relied on to win games like Boston's depth.

We have to find a way to win both games in Raleigh to have a chance, and the Bruins aren't going to make that easy.

 

[LostInaLostWorld]

Fleury has been playing fine, IMO. Him playing vs. TvR is certainly not the difference in this series. We have just been outplayed in pretty much every phase. Our best players haven't been good enough and the depth behind them can't be relied on to win games like Boston's depth.

Not saying that TVR/Fleury is a huge difference. But I do think we would be better off with TVR in the lineup. Look at Fleury's ice time. 56 out of 57 D men in the playoffs. 8:29/game. 13 shifts/gm. So evidently Rod has his own opinion on it.

2018-19 NHL Hockey Stats and League Leaders - Time On Ice - National Hockey League - ESPN

Just saying I do believe it is a factor. And as you say there are many factors...

 

[Stickpucker]

consistently amazed that a team that is this terrible on the powerplay and this bad on the kill in the postseason has even survived this long. they're really driving play 5 on 5 to make up for it, but man they've been awful.

With the personnel we have the PK should be very fixable. The PP...not sure...

 

[Stickpucker]

Last night was CDH on his off side or was I imagining things?

 

[tarheelhockey]

Now the owners of a 2-0 series lead over the Carolina Hurricanes in the Eastern Conference Final, the Bruins not only have confidence on their side after a lopsided 6-2 victory. They also have history.

The NHL communications department shared this nugget after the Bruins won on Sunday: Since 1982, a team that’s taken a 2-0 series lead in a conference final has gone on to win that series 93.8 percent of the time.

Those are pretty strong numbers in Boston’s favor.

Now, the counterargument to these odds would be that the Hurricanes overcame a 2-0 series deficit just last month against the defending-champion Washington Capitals. The NHL was prepared for such a case to be made, as the follow-up tweet noted that the 2011 Bruins and 2009 Penguins were the only two teams in NHL history to overcome two separate 2-0 series deficits in a single postseason.

Yeah. Cool. It's pretty much over.

The counterargument is that the percentages are descriptive, not predictive. What some team did in 1983 has no bearing on Hurricanes vs Bruins in 2019. The next 2-5 games are going to be determined in a vacuum, based entirely upon the performance of these two groups of players, with no reference to history.

 

[My Special Purpose]

Last night was CDH on his off side or was I imagining things?

I noticed that, too. CdH was on his off-side with Fleury, and Pesce was on his off-side with Faulk.

We've known for a while that our team has flaws, and the makeup of the defense is one of them. We're a year or two ahead of schedule in the conference final. Hopefully, this run doesn't change management's perception of what needs to be done. IMO, we need Slavin/Pesce and deHaan/Hamilton to be our top four going forward.

 

[Brad Meador]

The counterargument is that the percentages are descriptive, not predictive. What some team did in 1983 has no bearing on Hurricanes vs Bruins in 2019. The next 2-5 games are going to be determined in a vacuum, based entirely upon the performance of these two groups of players, with no reference to history.

Agreed, all it takes is one win to shift the momentum back to us. It has to start Tuesday. If we win Tuesday we're back in the series and can focus on Thursday. We NEED to win Tuesday though.

 

[zman77]

Game 3 will be a huge win for the 'Canes!

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Game 3 will be a huge win for the 'Canes!

Brow? Did we sign Anthony Davis to a PTO?