Post-Game Talk: GAME 19 - Extra, Extra, Read all about it! Blues 3 Bruins 2 (OT)

[easton117]

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The only explanation for how this team plays in the 3rd period is that they are out of shape.

Or betting against themselves.

Hopefully it’s number 1. You can fix that. Without,you know. Fixing it.

 

[Sevendust]

Still early in the season and with the play they have shown, their record really could be much worse. Will they turn it around and at least make the playoffs? Possibly, but if yes, they really won´t accomplish anything. The real problem is the structure of the roster and the future outlook. Unfortunately when Sweeney has cap space he is like a kid who gets 5 dollars from his grandma. Spending it as fast as possible on any crap he can get instead of saving it on something big and useful.

 

[Dueling Banjos]

Wildcard position...it's a miracle

 

[Fenway]

I guess what concerns me is the lack of passion with this team.............

There are off-ice issues going on starting with the health of Papa Jacobs as it has been at least 18 months since he has been seen at any NHL event. One has to assume Deleware North is exploring buying the Celtics to ensure no competing arena.

The Bruins have been lucky so far as Ottawa, Buffalo and Detroit have sputtered and Montreal is a mess.

 

[Maine Fan]

If Sweeney isn't going to fire Monty soon then do something, anything to shake up this clueless crew ASAP.

Sweeney fires Monty. Neely fires Sweeney. Jacobs fires Neely. The seasons starts again. This is the shake up the Bruins need. Don't just fire Montgomery because he was a bad hire, because he was a bad hire. The guy that fired so many good coaches to get this guy Montgomery because he will play the youth. But the Bruins don't have that many good young players to play. Firing Cassidy was a save your job, Sweeney for not getting talent to win long term. Every Bruins Executive is trying to save their job except Jacobs. BTW replacing the Jacobs family would be an improvement as well.

 

[Sevendust]

Sweeney fires Monty. Neely fires Sweeney. Jacobs fires Neely. The seasons starts again. This is the shake up the Bruins need. Don't just fire Montgomery because he was a bad hire, because he was a bad hire. The guy that fired so many good coaches to get this guy Montgomery because he will play the youth. But the Bruins don't have that many good young players to play. Firing Cassidy was a save your job, Sweeney for not getting talent to win long term. Every Bruins Executive is trying to save their job except Jacobs. BTW replacing the Jacobs family would be an improvement as well.

Charlie Jacob just gave the FO a vote of confidence in the offseason. He doesn´t see that the writing is on the wall and some fans still don´t see too, as making the playoffs was seen as a big accomplishment. Monty isn´t the problem, it´s the roster structure ... Unfortunately I think we have to brace ourselves that they are some very meh years on the horizon.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Charlie Jacob just gave the FO a vote of confidence in the offseason. He doesn´t see that the writing is on the wall and some fans still don´t see too, as making the playoffs was seen as a big accomplishment. Monty isn´t the problem, it´s the roster structure ... Unfortunately I think we have to brace ourselves that they are some very meh years on the horizon.

Ah, the dreaded vote of confidence. "Good Anakin, good"-I mean good Charlie, good.

 

[Fenway]

Every Bruins Executive is trying to save their job except Jacobs. BTW replacing the Jacobs family would be an improvement as well.

I have heard from trusted sources that negotiations are happening

Bruins and Sabres trade franchises
Penguins and Bruins then trade franchises

When the Zamboni chips settle you have

Delaware North is in a position to redevelop downtown Buffalo which is in its DNA
Terry Pegula gets a chance to redevelop Pittsburgh and the Boston royal family gets stronger.

 

[SonnyBoy]

Yes, on the worst offensive team in the league the real problem is the only guy scoring with any sort of consistency.

yeah, 2 goals in 9 games.

Trade everyone except Pasta and Sawyman and build a core.

Because they have been so exceptionally good this year? One is surfing and other one wants to be a friend with other goalies rather than his teammates.

 

[Blowfish]

Merk pass was wicked fast thinking.

 

[lopey]

From what i read and the low shot numbers again this tells me these guys are not willing to go to dirty areas to get shots. Perimeter team.

 

[smithformeragent]

Time to give the kid a look.

 

[BruinDust]

And no. Their current state isn’t all on Pastrnak. But look at a guy like Kucherov and tell me Pastrnak is even remotely at that level

Once again, so what? You trade a guy because he's not quite at the level of a very small handful of forwards in the NHL? As if you could trade Pasta and bring back a better forward than him. Cause the MacKinnons/Kucherov's/etc. are available all over the league.

I mean, if you could trade Pasta for a forward of that caliber, I'd be open to it, but it's too unrealistic and foolish to talk about. He's still an elite forward in this league.

I'd make the same statement about McAvoy. I'd love to flip him for a better D-man. But which one of Makar/Hughes/Fox/Heiskanen/etc. are you bringing back?

So if your not upgrading from those two players, you suggest trading them for 3 ponies instead? When has that strategy ever worked for the Bruins?

 

[mjhfb]

People claiming a lack of talent being responsible, how are you explaining last year - mid tier players over-performing in a perfect storm type context, I assume?

NHL Channel was talking about that same thing. Same coach, same core, with few changes most analysts thought preseason would be upgrades...and it turned into a complete mess.
If they couldn't figure it out I won't pretend to have the answer. But I do think Sweeney should make a trade first if possible before replacing the coach.

 

[LSCII]

At this point, I would take "earth"..... There's something more... I don't have an explanation. Every player has seemingly taken a step back. Two or three steps in some cases. Not just from last year, from their career norms. They are collectively shitting the bed.

Water always finds it's level. Coyle having his first season of 60 points and 25 goals happened 11 years into his career. That was the anomaly. By default, there was no place for him to go but down. Geekie has one year out of 5 that doesn't jive with the rest of his career. Right now he's on pace for 24 points, which is where he usually is.

The challenge with slotting bottom 6 guys up into top 6 roles is that those types of players are usually inconsistent. Which is why they're bottom 6 players. If they were consistently what we saw last year, they'd have already been top 6 players.

This is why rolling the dice and assuming you're going to only get the same or more production from players that have never been consistent producers is a huge mistake by Neely and Sweeney. You add in their desire to get bigger and more physical which means slower and less skilled, and this is what you get. Them trying to emulate the Panthers model of physicality while ignoring the fact that the Panthers balance that size and grit out with top end skill and production is the issue.

 

[Terrier]

We are -110 to make the playoffs, -120 to miss, the only team with minus odds on both sides.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

What I'm getting is that Sweeney should be fired because of poor roster structure.

If only I knew what that means.

 

[since76]

Once again, so what? You trade a guy because he's not quite at the level of a very small handful of forwards in the NHL? As if you could trade Pasta and bring back a better forward than him. Cause the MacKinnons/Kucherov's/etc. are available all over the league.

I mean, if you could trade Pasta for a forward of that caliber, I'd be open to it, but it's too unrealistic and foolish to talk about. He's still an elite forward in this league.

I'd make the same statement about McAvoy. I'd love to flip him for a better D-man. But which one of Makar/Hughes/Fox/Heiskanen/etc. are you bringing back?

So if your not upgrading from those two players, you suggest trading them for 3 ponies instead? When has that strategy ever worked for the Bruins?

exactly !!! same old dirty mentality who gave bruins wonderful players for
thornton seguin ….thoses fans want more and more
and more 4th liners …1 cup in 52 years strategy whoooo

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I mean, not knowing if it was even humanely possible. But two years ago after getting dusted by Florida I would have been on the phone with Pitt asking them about Crosby.

If Pastrnak was the price I would have paid it. If and only if their goal was to keep trying to stay competitive. Go check my post history. In that drunken game 7 stupor I was onboard trading all of them lol.

I don’t know what it is about the NHL but I do think fans get too tied up in their own players. There’s plenty of guys out there that can score, hit, play d. Whatever.

Just because a guy got drafted by Boston doesn’t mean we should just overlook all his absolutely shite performances outside of a few times he decides to show up.. That makes zero sense whatsoever.

And no. Their current state isn’t all on Pastrnak. But look at a guy like Kucherov and tell me Pastrnak is even remotely at that level

Pastrnak is absolutely on Kucherovs level. Now we are being a little over critical on our own players.... Kucherov is still on a loaded yet declining roster with the likes of Point, Herman.

Pastrnak is without debate a top 5 forward in the NHL.

McAvoy is a top 5 defenseman as well but sliding towards top 10 with this season showing he cannot carry an inferior roster as we had hoped.

Need to add to a Pastrnak at whatever cost not trade him for a lateral winger or worse.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Who the hell wants them?

Charlie would be a first pairing D on every team in the league, learn hockey

 

[UncleRico]

We are -110 to make the playoffs, -120 to miss, the only team with minus odds on both sides.

Shout out to our division being so bad that an 82 point pace a quarter of the way through the season still has us at almost even odds

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Pastrnak is absolutely on Kucherovs level. Now we are being a little over critical on our own players.... Kucherov is still on a loaded yet declining roster with the likes of Point, Herman.

Pastrnak is without debate a top 5 forward in the NHL.

McAvoy is a top 5 defenseman as well but sliding towards top 10 with this season showing he cannot carry an inferior roster as we had hoped.

Need to add to a Pastrnak at whatever cost not trade him for a lateral winger or worse.

No, he's not.

No, he's not.

No, he's not.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

No, he's not.

No, he's not.

No, he's not.

While the team as a whole is poorly constructed by Sweeney and poorly coached by Montgomery apparently we the fans have taken to tearing down the few elite players we do have. A sight to behold.

The Bruins have the smallest number of high end talent players in the NHL perhaps aside from Utah/Anaheim type teams and it naturally impacts their performance.

Fox and Kucherov would be performing just as poorly with this roster.

Generational players like Makar and McDavid would have their points but no one is comparing McAvoy and Pastrnak to them.

 

[nORRis8]

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Time to give the kid a look.

And the stuffed animal as well to replace Mr. 8.25.


When all this crap started to go down with Swayman who perceived that he was great, I said we should sign Lankinen who was a free agent before Vancouver does and screw Swayman.

Vancouver had goaltending issues thus they signed Lankinen for $875,000.00
He is : 8-2-2, GA/G 2.60, SV% 907

Is goaltending our biggest problem?
No.
But the contract handed to our so-called franchise goalie was going to be and is a problem as we are now handcuffed to make any movements.
I wonder what we could have done with the extra 7.4 million?

 

[BruinDust]

How bad are the Bruins?

Right now there is only one team in the entire NHL that is in the bottom 10 in GF/game, GA/game, PK and PP effectiveness.

Your Boston Bruins.

There are six teams in the bottom 10 in 3 out of 4 stats. The Bruins have played 4 games now against these teams and they are 1-1-2 in those games. 3 of the 4 games went to OT and the other, the only win, took miraculous 3rd period comeback.

Anaheim
Islanders
Calgary
Utah
St. Louis
San Jose