GDT: Game 18: Red Wings at sharks 10:30 pm et 11/18/24

[Reddwit]

How many D-men can we call up from GR that are realistically close to ready? I would welcome the lagesson up he can’t be worse. Give me some wallinder, tuomisto, whoever. I can’t watch that bottom 4 play anymore

It’s so bad. Like it’s a really low IQ defense.

 

[datsyukfan]

It’s so bad. Like it’s a really low IQ defense.

Yep and I think the system just makes it harder as the forwards are up at the far blue line standing there. Absolutely no support anywhere on the ice

 

[Hockeyfan2390]

Derek Lalonde: "I have a plan to get us out of this mess! First, we're going to..."

 

[Gniwder]

Nah, give them Boudreau. Let him ripen their offensive skills. We expect/want more offense from literally every young player on this team, including the young defensemen, why not give them a guy known for being open-minded about offensive freedom?

And for anyone who says we don’t have the horses for a game like that, we don’t have the defensive horses to play the defense-first way either, but we’ve still tried it for 10+ years.

Boudreau is actually a hot head that likes to drop the F bomb a lot. Just because he's more offensive minded doesn't mean he's soft. The problem is that he's 69, and will probably have a heart attack on the bench.

Might as well just promote Tanguay and tell him to figure out a way for these guys to actually score and let Cam fend for himself.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

This is so depressing.

This road trip has me thinking about long term future, because this season is cooked.

Stevie, come this offseason, you will have 3 dman with 1 year left on their contracts. Holl, Gus and Chiarot. Find a way to get rid of all of them, I don't care how. And then find yourself a pro scout who can help you identify some quality defensemen.

 

[datsyukfan]

This is so depressing.

This road trip has me thinking about long term future, because this season is cooked.

Stevie, come this offseason, you will have 3 dman with 1 year left on their contracts. Holl, Gus and Chiarot. Find a way to get rid of all of them, I don't care how. And then find yourself a pro scout who can help you identify some quality defensemen.

This absolutely needs to be his #1 job. The D has to be fixed. He made massive errors in signing those guys, he needs to clean it up.

 

[Gniwder]

Anything is better than what we are seeing now. I’d be open to just about anything. Newsy needs to go back to worrying about minions and leave coaching hockey to a real coach


The sad thing is both are under contract for next year. Awful UFA d-men must just love when stevie calls, they not only get a job but they get good dollar and term

Unfortunately, that's not how it works.

What Stevie could do is just rotate guys (including Chia-Pet) down to GR and see if that wakes them up. Same with the forwards. Maybe Raz/Copp/Compher/Fish/Joey would like to see if they enjoy bus rides.

 

[Reddwit]

Boudreau is actually a hot head that likes to drop the F bomb a lot. Just because he's more offensive minded doesn't mean he's soft. The problem is that he's 69, and will probably have a heart attack on the bench.

Might as well just promote Tanguay and tell him to figure out a way for these guys to actually score and let Cam fend for himself.

I honestly wouldn’t mind Tanguay as interim coach. I feel like he might coach closer to the way he played. And he’s got the PP figured out, so…

This absolutely needs to be his #1 job. The D has to be fixed. He made massive errors in signing those guys, he needs to clean it up.

Maybe that’s a good argument for firing Lalonde mid-season - you can see if any of your investments look better in a different system or if they’re just crap overall.

 

[Lampedampe]

This is so depressing.

This road trip has me thinking about long term future, because this season is cooked.

Stevie, come this offseason, you will have 3 dman with 1 year left on their contracts. Holl, Gus and Chiarot. Find a way to get rid of all of them, I don't care how. And then find yourself a pro scout who can help you identify some quality defensemen.

Ideally yeah, but is it worth it? It will cost some assets to get rid of them.

Chiarot on the 3rd pair. With reduced ice-time he looked better last season. This year he is playing more, so would be fine on the 3rd pair i think.

Holl as an expensive 7th D, not ideal but rather do that than giving up a draft pick to get rid of him.

Gus can be buried in AHL.

 

[KJoe88]

This is meant to be happening.

 

[datsyukfan]

Ideally yeah, but is it worth it? It will cost some assets to get rid of them.

Chiarot on the 3rd pair, with reduced ice-time he looked better last season. This year he is playing more, so would be fine on the 3rd pair i think.

Holl as an expensive 7th D, not ideal but rather do that than giving up a draft pick to get rid of him.

Gus can be buried in AHL.

You need to get rid of 2 minimum. Retain 50% I don’t care just get them off this f***ing team

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858749771353031073

 

[DamonDRW]

apparently, those two defensemen were not that bad, overaged Perron was better than uninterested Tarasenko, who no one can score goals like that 4th line plug who didn't play any defense.

some guys here saw that coming

 

[dragonballgtz]

Seider tried to get Lalonde fired tonight lol

I think Talbot helped in that department tonight.

 

[Souker]

Need some help for my pool please Wings fans… safe to assume that Lyon gets the net next game?

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

Leave this asshole in California

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858762356391886954

 

[Gniwder]

I'm gonna sum up this game with one play:

Compher loses the o-zone faceoff, and coasts back:

The D go man to man on the first 2 forwards to enter the zone as Compher's man blows right by him:

Compher goes back into coast mode even as his man gets the puck leading to an easy goal:

I don't believe in scratching a guy over one bad play, but Compher has one assist in the last 9 games while going -3. That is on par with Copp's cold streaks last season. Compher needs to be scratched for a game or two so he can pull his head out of his ass. Fester already made his adjustment by putting Burger-Joey-Compher as the 4th line, Motte can fill in just fine in that role.

Either Fester needs to send a message to his players or Stevie needs to give him the pink slip.

 

[Henkka]

Compher had that flu bug and seems lost all his energy. And that guy is used on the 1st PK.

WTF is happening?

 

[Henkka]

This absolutely needs to be his #1 job. The D has to be fixed. He made massive errors in signing those guys, he needs to clean it up.

Who is selling a Top4 righty?

 

[Filppula]

I'm gonna sum up this game with one play:

Compher loses the o-zone faceoff, and coasts back:
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The D go man to man on the first 2 forwards to enter the zone as Compher's man blows right by him:
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Compher goes back into coast mode even as his man gets the puck leading to an easy goal:
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I don't believe in scratching a guy over one bad play, but Compher has one assist in the last 9 games while going -3. That is on par with Copp's cold streaks last season. Compher needs to be scratched for a game or two so he can pull his head out of his ass. Fester already made his adjustment by putting Burger-Joey-Compher as the 4th line, Motte can fill in just fine in that role.

Either Fester needs to send a message to his players or Stevie needs to give him the pink slip.

Compher is quickly entering discussions for least liked Wing. Does nothing.

 

[deca guard]

ITS ABOUT 2026/27+ NOT 2024/25​

why whining fans care about this season ive no idea when it was obvious before this season , and for years before that , that the only thing that mattered was building the prospect pool back up putting every effort into creating a long running contender . you do this by making every move for the sake of say 2026/27 and beyond . including not spending futures or long term cap space in effort to just eek into the playoffs today by over paying and terming say stamkos . there were some decent ufa yzerman could have signed to improve today but it would have both cost long term cap and worsened our draft spot for the sake of getting an iffy roster into the playoffs only to be run out . if fans thought before they whined theyd realize this but instead they want bragging rights so they can trash talk and be 'special' like the team theyre fans of ! when if thinking theyd be ecstatic with the job yzermans doing on the draft floor and how greatly all 'yzermans blue chips' are rocking the rinks from hoss cossa to d butchie to ammo to auggie to finn's to pelli to dannyson whose starting to get the beat . yzermans built a stack of blue chips thats going to set the redwings up for a dominant decade ! and as bad as the whing fans are the whining redwing media whom are turning this season into a soap opera with most calling for coaches head when hes standing with the worst defense in the nhl and til the competitive force kasper came along no proper 2C , not to mention the 2nd line wingers it takes to play a complete hockey game . its not lalondes fault he has a junk d , and its not yzermans fault he didnt build a better roster for today at the cost of tomorrow....