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GDT: Game 14 - New York Rangers vs New York Islanders - 7pm, MSG

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JHS said:
The " false narrative" is Gallant deserves to be fired because the team is sputtering. It's simply absurd. 7 months ago this team was in serious contention for a cup. You want to only give the goalie credit- ok maybe that's true. But how then does Gallant ever get any credit for anything? If the players are mediocre than he'd get blamed for not getting the best out of them. If the players are overachieving it seems like in this narrative, " The players are covering up for the poor coaching." All I'm pointing out is we at least owe it to be fair to the coach and evaluate what he's contributed and accomplished. He gotten multiple teams to extended playoff runs, one in its first year in existence and repeated a similar run with a group of players last year that most experts had finishing in the bottom half of the league.

We are not even at the Thanksgiving break yet and all's I'm saying is Gallant has earned a much longer leash than some calling for him to be ousted are giving him. Failing to realize that and allowing your emotions to carry your thoughts is an emotional overreaction that I'm calling people out for.

On to tonight's game. I'm hopeful to see a spark and contributions from Kreider.
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He made sure that serious contention was nullified with his personnel decisions though. Yes, he should be blamed for not getting the best out of his players, but let's not pretend that he turned Kreider, Panarin or Zib into what they are - they were already those players. Now, however, with the exception of Panarin, they are all regressing. This team responds the way it does because he allows them to.

You keep saying "multiple teams on extended playoffs runs." It's two teams and two runs and that's it - his first year with Vegas and his first year with us. Everything else is one and done and the teams got worse after the first year. Never made the playoffs with CBJ. One playoff make with Florida and lost in round 1. Lost round 1 his second year with Vegas and then was fired the next season. That is his track record. That is not a track record of success, that is barely a record of mediocrity. Right now, this team is already on a worse start than last year, and not recognizing that the major factor here is Igor's play would be incredibly disingenuous. This team seems to be following his past track record to a T.

This is not emotions. This is facts. He is a loser. The faster he is fired the better for this franchise.

TheGortonConspiracy said:
It’s going to be a long season for folks here who want to talk about firing Gallant every other post. There’s no way that happens mid-season after seeing last years playoffs. Wake up
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I'm sure Gorton and JD thought they were safe too. Is Dolan going to be happy with a step back this season?
 
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It’s a long regular season- I know we’ve learned some negative things so far but at least try to enjoy the games
 
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TheBloodyNine said:
He made sure that serious contention was nullified with his personnel decisions though. Yes, he should be blamed for not getting the best out of his players, but let's not pretend that he turned Kreider, Panarin or Zib into what they are - they were already those players. Now, however, with the exception of Panarin, they are all regressing. This team responds the way it does because he allows them to.

You keep saying "multiple teams on extended playoffs runs." It's two teams and two runs and that's it - his first year with Vegas and his first year with us. Everything else is one and done and the teams got worse after the first year. Never made the playoffs with CBJ. One playoff make with Florida and lost in round 1. Lost round 1 his second year with Vegas and then was fired the next season. That is his track record. That is not a track record of success, that is barely a record of mediocrity. Right now, this team is already on a worse start than last year, and not recognizing that the major factor here is Igor's play would be incredibly disingenuous. This team seems to be following his past track record to a T.

This is not emotions. This is facts. He is a loser. The faster he is fired the better for this franchise.


I'm sure Gorton and JD thought they were safe too. Is Dolan going to be happy with a step back this season?
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He's a loser??? I'm not great at math but even I can tell you are 100% wrong. Those who would like actual facts and not emotional reactions might want to look at this link.

Gerard Gallant hockey coaching records on StatsCrew.com

Each of your posts is the same. Gallant deserves no credit for anything and deserves all the blame for everything that goes wrong. All the other words are just fluff.

I'd ask who you'd rather have as coach but I actually don't care.
 
Fitzy said:
It’s a long regular season- I know we’ve learned some negative things so far but at least try to enjoy the games
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they have not been enjoyable thus far, which has been the biggest disappointment of all.

Daves a mess said:
#12 pick in 2018 Noah Dobson is an absolute stud.

#9 pick in 2018 is an absolute ....
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Dobson is mid. Great shooter for a Dman but thats really it. Poor man's Dougie Hamilton.

But yeah Krav sucks

JHS said:
The " false narrative" is Gallant deserves to be fired because the team is sputtering. It's simply absurd. 7 months ago this team was in serious contention for a cup. You want to only give the goalie credit- ok maybe that's true. But how then does Gallant ever get any credit for anything? If the players are mediocre than he'd get blamed for not getting the best out of them. If the players are overachieving it seems like in this narrative, " The players are covering up for the poor coaching." All I'm pointing out is we at least owe it to be fair to the coach and evaluate what he's contributed and accomplished. He gotten multiple teams to extended playoff runs, one in its first year in existence and repeated a similar run with a group of players last year that most experts had finishing in the bottom half of the league.

We are not even at the Thanksgiving break yet and all's I'm saying is Gallant has earned a much longer leash than some calling for him to be ousted are giving him. Failing to realize that and allowing your emotions to carry your thoughts is an emotional overreaction that I'm calling people out for.

On to tonight's game. I'm hopeful to see a spark and contributions from Kreider.
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Gallant stinks. I said it last year even when we were winning. He holds this team back.
 
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We got owned by Carolina so bad early last year that I felt 'no way we could ever beat this team in a series'.

I feel exactly the same about this Isles team. Let's focus on getting better against them each time we play, and wait for April and f*ck them up.

Points for Laf and Kak tonight COME ON!
 
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they better win this f***ing game. play like this is a game 7 tonight, show some f***ing life.
 
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As an example of what Isles do so well (and pisses us off to no end) is the legal interference. I almost missed it in the highlights but (not-so) Homer Butch pointed it out.

Check out the not-so-subtle-interference that Baily (#12) does after the simple drop pass to open up room for Barzal.



Barzal sees Baily clearing room for him and fakes to go to the middle drawing in one defender, then cuts back to where Baily is clearing space which gives him plenty of room to make the cross ice pass.

Where we are aggressive is to try to cause turnovers when the opposition has the puck in their zone on the forecheck, a much easier hooking call for the refs when you're too aggressive (looking at you Panarin). When you have the puck on a HD scoring chance it's much harder for the ref to blow the play dead, everyone on the O team is gonna be yelling wtf at you, especially if the puck ends up in the net but it's blow dead for an offensive penalty. Not saying they never call, but it's not common at all.

Edit: Also wth was Markstrom doing? So sloppy getting over, Barzal passed, he recognized it and took half a step, proceed to drop to a knee and then push off. So choppy and poor technique.
 
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TheBloodyNine said:
He made sure that serious contention was nullified with his personnel decisions though. Yes, he should be blamed for not getting the best out of his players, but let's not pretend that he turned Kreider, Panarin or Zib into what they are - they were already those players. Now, however, with the exception of Panarin, they are all regressing. This team responds the way it does because he allows them to.

You keep saying "multiple teams on extended playoffs runs." It's two teams and two runs and that's it - his first year with Vegas and his first year with us. Everything else is one and done and the teams got worse after the first year. Never made the playoffs with CBJ. One playoff make with Florida and lost in round 1. Lost round 1 his second year with Vegas and then was fired the next season. That is his track record. That is not a track record of success, that is barely a record of mediocrity. Right now, this team is already on a worse start than last year, and not recognizing that the major factor here is Igor's play would be incredibly disingenuous. This team seems to be following his past track record to a T.

This is not emotions. This is facts. He is a loser. The faster he is fired the better for this franchise.


I'm sure Gorton and JD thought they were safe too. Is Dolan going to be happy with a step back this season?
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Bloody Nine happy once again.

Spent all last season telling us the Rangers and Gallant were trash until he disappeared when things got good for the team.

Here's hoping he disappears again.
 
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JHS said:
He's a loser??? I'm not great at math but even I can tell you are 100% wrong. Those who would like actual facts and not emotional reactions might want to look at this link.

Gerard Gallant hockey coaching records on StatsCrew.com

Each of your posts is the same. Gallant deserves no credit for anything and deserves all the blame for everything that goes wrong. All the other words are just fluff.

I'd ask who you'd rather have as coach but I actually don't care.
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You're telling me a guy who has never held a job longer than 2 seasons as an NHL coach is a winner? Please explain. You love dodging this point because it proves you wrong instantly. Only two seasons with a playoff series win in his entire career. So far, this is following his exact same career trajectory - good first season, mediocre/bad second season, fired.
 
TheGortonConspiracy said:
As long as attendance is good and we compete in the playoffs Dolan isn't going to go scorched earth. So far so good

New York Rangers yearly attendance at hockeydb.com

A historical graph of the yearly attendance for the New York Rangers of the National Hockey League.
www.hockeydb.com
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Attendance was good when they were fired, and they got fired because things weren't moving fast enough for Dolan, in addition to the failure to rebuke player safety decision. Things don't seem to be moving in the right direction right now.
 
romba said:
As an example of what Isles do so well (and pisses us off to no end) is the legal interference. I almost missed it in the highlights but (not-so) Homer Butch pointed it out.

Check out the not-so-subtle-interference that Baily (#12) does after the simple drop pass to open up room for Barzal.

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Barzal sees Baily clearing room for him and fakes to go to the middle drawing in one defender, then cuts back to where Baily is clearing space which gives him plenty of room to make the cross ice pass.

Where we are aggressive is to try to cause turnovers when the opposition has the puck in their zone on the forecheck, a much easier hooking call for the refs when you're too aggressive (looking at you Panarin). When you have the puck on a HD scoring chance it's much harder for the ref to blow the play dead, everyone on the O team is gonna be yelling wtf at you, especially if the puck ends up in the net but it's blow dead for an offensive penalty. Not saying they never call, but it's not common at all.
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I wish the Rangers did stuff like that.

Understanding what the refs will, and will not call when games become tight is important, especially when the team is struggling for goals. Baily going to the net there, even if it could be called interference, will not usually be called. From the refs point of view that could be considered, he was just going to the net.

Rangers have never been very good at taking advantage of the borderline legal/illegal stuff.
 
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