GDT: Game #10: San Jose vs Utah HC - 7:00pm - Utah16, Utah HC+

[cobra427]

You see the rebuild as failing because of what the W-L record shows right now.

I see lots of very young and very talented kids making the team and doing well for their age, also many prospects playing very well in the KHL, AHL, and Juniors. Developing. That tells me that no matter what the team looks like now the rebuild is on track and looking great. We're stacked with more talent than we've ever had and it's not even close. So my view is much more positive than yours.

What we have right now is growing pains. A normal part of building though the draft. Right now sucks but the future is really, really bright. The rebuild is absolutely on-track and successful. Seems that you're putting a rush BA's clearly laid out and patient plan because you disagree with it. But it's still about the future, not right now.

BA delaying the start of the rebuild in the first year was a delay, sure, but it has no real effect on the actual outcome of the rebuild "at the end of the day."

You need to have results at some point, its year 5. When do results matter? year 6 or 8 or 10?What you are saying is don't look at the win loss record look at the potential of all our players. Young players after they are drafted all have "potential". It makes everyone feel warm and fuzzy. I think the team is misconstructed, built with great wingers and way below average Cs and Ds. What if we are at sub 80 points again this year, do you or others still feel good about the rebuild because we have "potential"?

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

What you are saying is don't look at the win loss record look at the potential of all our players. Young players after they are drafted all have "potential".

Do you really look at the players that have graduated to the NHL like Cooley & Guenther and only see potential instead of seeing them as key parts of the team now and in the future? I think they've already proven that were good picks and that they have long careers in the NHL ahead of them. They've already proven beyond potential and are only getting better, IMO.

I also look at the players in the AHL and other leagues that are on the way that are also looking like solid picks. So yes, that potential excites me because I believe that in 2 years I won't even think about this season for more than a second because it won't matter.

I think the team is misconstructed, built with great wingers and way below average Cs and Ds

You know that we have players in the system developing and will be joining the team in the next season or two that shore up some of this stuff you say is missing. I don't see the team as misconstructed, I see it as waiting for the other puzzle pieces that are on the way.

Simachev is BA's big pick on D and he won't be here until next season. He's looking really good in the KHL as the big, fast, shut down D that we sorely need and he's doing it in the KHL, granted with limited minutes. I think he goes straight from the KHL to NHL. But hey, that's just potential, right!?

Iginla could even make the team next season at C and start his acclimation to the NHL. I don't think anyone is questioning that he is going to be an NHL player.

The longest part is waiting for players to grow up. The great news is that a good portion of BA's picks not only have potential but look like they could actually make an impact in the NHL. None of his high picks seem to be flopping. A lot of them aren't that far away from knocking on the door either. For this team or trade capital.

Once BA's top picks are all playing in the NHL (it looks like they're all going to make the NHL) he's still going to have a ton of trade currency to build that properly constructed team that we don't have this season. And go all in.

That's what I'm expecting, comfortable with, and excited for. Like I said, I think I'll have forgotten about the pains of the rebuild and what the team looks like right now, in about 2 more seasons. Won't be able to care less.

I do see your point of view though. I disagree but I don't think your full of crap or anything. Just a little pissing match of opinions.

 

[TheLegend]

My friends call me "Dangerfield."

 

[lanky]

near or in last place, guaranteed.

I'll take that bet.

ok Lanks, If they are not a league wide bottom 5 team at the new year, I’ll send you my brand new, never worn Arizona Coyote Tuk with the pom pom on top and admit I was wrong.

Less than two weeks to the new year and we're sitting 14th in the league by points %.

We don't have a bet, but it's great to look back and get some perspective on where we were and where we are now.