I dunno. Last year would indicate Schmidt was better and Pionk being played more and on tougher mins only widened the gap.
Some stats I saw had Schmidt delivering borderline top pair results during the season.
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Some stats I saw had Schmidt delivering borderline top pair results during the season.
It's true. We are pretty easy to play against already, losing him will hurt
It was more fan fiction based in hope.
no one is touching our cap dumps, without a 1st. and the club don't often view players they signed as negative assets they are. See: Wheeler, Blake, Jets are not willing to retain salary...
Dillon-Schmidt and Samberg-Schmidt have both been real good pairing. The latter mostly 3rd pair role/TOI though.
Because Pionk and Schmidt are untradeable in today's cap environment. Dillion with one year left at a reasonable cap hit could likely still find a taker. If the goal is to open up a spot for a younger dmen and have enough cap space to lock up Vilardi more then a couple of years then he's the most portable one.
I wouldn't mind Dillon/Schmidt as a 3rd pairing but that is almost 10m for a 3rd pair.
That'd be our most expensive pair.
Give someone Montreal's 2nd and dump Schmidt.
According to some, we need to trade Dillon to make a spot for Heinola. It's true Heinola has never shown that he deserves to play over anyone, let alone Dillon, but we need to start him in at least 40 games anyways. That is the only way to "know what we have".
This is my understanding of the logic anyway. Thankfully these posters do not run the team.
Yeah the Jets hardly if ever trade out of older players in the offseason to give a spot to some of their own prospect. I don't see it starting now in a non-rebuild year.
As of today - the Jets have 35.6% of their total cap allocated to the defense group which is the 5th highest in the league. At the end of the day you're going to likely have an expensive 3rd pair if demelo is with Morrissey. So you basically just gotta live with that fact.
Samberg-Schmidt were great as a 3rd pair. I'd like to see them in a higher stakes 2nd pair role given that'll likely be Samberg's permanent depth spot in 2024.
Dillon-Schmidt has rated well for two years and V strong last year as a second pair.
Either of those two I'd go with as a 2nd pair and puts Pionk on the third pair.
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i was a proponent of moving dillon if we were going full rebuild, however that's not the case.
dillon had a year left at a v low cap-hit, and has a skill-set that many gm's over pay for. so given the weak UFA market perhaps could've gotten something for him. evidently this offseason's trade-market was garbage and players were being given away for peanuts, so that killed that hypothesis (along w/ we are not rebuilding)
you'd likely have to pay draft picks or prospects to get rid of schmidt or pionk, which a rebuild team probably shouldn't be doing.
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Perfetti's salary is already included in the total on CF. Why are you giving Stanley a raise?
There should be ~5.144 mil available before someone gets waived. So just under 6 mil available.
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I don't think it is that people want Dillon moved. They want someone moved and he is the most easily moveable.
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No.
If you are creating space for Ville he can be the one to play the right side, or maybe Samberg moves over, or Dillon.
I don't see any of the starting D being moved at this point. See what happens in TC. Right now 1 player, either D or F needs to be moved. If any Dman wins a job another D man will have to be moved, 1 way or another. Expect to lose 1 or 2 players to waivers.
Pionk is a net negative at 5v5. He does indeed face tough matchups, but he's losing a lot of those matchups.
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You want to put a rookie or Sammy in on the right hand side? Let's let them establish themselves on their left side first.
Just because our first pairing is inexpensive, it doesn't mean we have to over pay it for our third pair.
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I'd see what Samberg can do on the right side - Jomo is a much more reliable partner than Pionk and basically we have no one else that can partner successfully with Morrissey aside from DeMelo... at least look at it in pre-season
Our third pairing is expensive because we have two immovable contracts that are not first pairing D...
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I'm not advocating that. That is what you do if you move Pionk.
Pionk is easily our weakest Dman. If you are moving anyone he is the one to move. But I expect us to go into the season with the same starting 6 that finished last year. I hope Pionk can play like he did in the PO.
Agree to disagree.
Pionk and Schmidt each have 2 years and their AAV is 75k apart.
I still think the team is stronger with Schmidt gone rather than Pionk.
I put a lot of weight on the playoffs. Pionk shows up. Lowry shows up. Little showed up. I can put up with a bit of lesser play during regular season if they step it up during the playoffs. Pionk also plays about 3 nad 1/2 minutes more per game.
Having said that, I'll be the first to say that Pionk needs to play better. He seems to have dropped off quite a bit regarding his regular season play. He doesn't play with that edge like he used to. I just remember how good he was against Edmonton and he was pretty good agasint Vegas as well.
I think Chevy got his money's worth for Dillon but for Schmidt, there is a reason he paid a 3rd rounder...probably should have got a sweetener instead of paying for him.
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You're going to put a lot of weight on a 5 game PO series after he sucked hard through 159 regular season games? OK. Of course the good PO performance doesn't help a bit if you don't make the PO. He tries hard to avoid making the PO. But OK.
But this isn't counting potential performance bonuses. If both Perfetti and Henola are on the team that is a potential of $1,275,000 in performance bonuses. With Valardi's bridge we have $3,779,643 in cap space. Minus off the potential performance bonuses and you are looking at $2.5 M with 2 more roster spots to fill. Kupari likely likely takes close to half of that. Even if the 23rd player is league minimum there wasn't near enough for a Valardi long term deal.
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There is the option of the performance bonuses sliding to next year when the cap has gone up and a bunch of cap has been freed up by contracts expiring. I don't know that Heinola earns his playing bonus. Right now there isn't room for him.
This bridge deal makes more sense than a longer term, bigger $$$ contract. But Chevy could have made the cap work if that had been what both parties wanted.
If Sammy is our 2RHD, I don't see us making the post season. We already have one lefty playing the right side.
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