G Trey Augustine - Michigan State, NCAA (2023, 41st, DET)
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Boss Man Hughes
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He was mediocre in the gold medal game. 2 bad goals and outplayed by Rimpinen. If the Finns didn't fan or miss the net on a lot of their scoring chances things would likely be different.
Or, the USA was completely dominant the last 60% of the game, and Finland was lucky to even get to overtime.
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Yeah, he was kinda mediocre today, but in a game he wasn't seeing the puck well he battled well enough to give his team a chance. Closed the door the last 40 or so minutes when one more would've been it.
And then you look at the overall picture (like the below), and it really says a lot about what he's accomplishing. He's been the starting goaltender at 5 major IIHF tournaments for the USA since he was U17, and his team hasn't finished worse than Bronze, and has three gold medals. Has also played (well) at the Mens Worlds in that span and has the WJC record for most wins by a goaltender (now two above everyone else).
And pile on top of that his NTDP records and how well he's played his first two years at MSU. He looks like a future NHL star. Might take 5 years (that's the nature of the position), but he'll be a top 10 goaltender in the NHL. Everything he's accomplished suggests so.
And then you look at the overall picture (like the below), and it really says a lot about what he's accomplishing. He's been the starting goaltender at 5 major IIHF tournaments for the USA since he was U17, and his team hasn't finished worse than Bronze, and has three gold medals. Has also played (well) at the Mens Worlds in that span and has the WJC record for most wins by a goaltender (now two above everyone else).
And pile on top of that his NTDP records and how well he's played his first two years at MSU. He looks like a future NHL star. Might take 5 years (that's the nature of the position), but he'll be a top 10 goaltender in the NHL. Everything he's accomplished suggests so.
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Incredible achievement backstopping the US to two straight gold medals. Imo this is far more impressive for a goalie than a skater because of how small the margin of error is. Hard not to get optimistic about what this guy can be as a pro.
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Cool, you can have a "mediocre" game when you have a resume like his and you're also still good enough to win gold.
If he retired tomorrow, he's probably going into the USA's hockey hall of Fame already.
A nice thing about Augustine is a lot of goalie prospects don't have their mental toughness tested young. Augustine has by far the most high pressure games before turning pro for a goalie prospects that's come around for a long time and the guy is ice cold
Vasilevskiy
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Very promising. One below average game doesn't change it, and his team still won anyways
I don’t think Draper does too much goalie scouting. Hard to give him credit here. NA skater scouting is still bottom tier under Yzerman.This can't be possible. I've heard Detroit's drafting outside the 1st round is terrible...
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It’s crazy how Draper is director of amateur scouting yet we only give him credit for late round NA picks
The picks that are essentially expected to amount to nothing have amounted to nothing, that's obviously Draper's fault and nothing you say will change that fact. It's not true of all the other directors of amateur scouting on 31 other teams though.
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Wings future goaltending position looks amazing having the wealth of both Cossa and Augustine. Perhaps one could be used in the future as a big trade asset.
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There was a report a while ago that Draper was the one pounding the table for Raymond at the draft and a lot of wings scouts actually wanted Perfetti. But Draper only gets credited with the picks that don't work out while Hakan Andersson gets credit for Raymond
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we have a good team and an incredible prospect pool. at this point i don't care who gets credit for what
but i agree that draper gets way too much flak around here
We give Hakan, our chief European scout, credit for picks he gets to make. We give Draper credit for all picks Hakan doesn’t make, it’s pretty straightforward. Hakan has earned his status. Draper drafted his son who has zero business being drafted. A disgusted form of nepotism. Shameful really. Could’ve potentially found the next Zetterberg or Datsyuk but we drafted a guy who can barely dress in the NCAA. It’s upsetting that management allowed it.
It’s very easy for someone like Draper to leak a pro-Draper take to the press. That’s the issue with access journalism, if you’re ever critical of an org they can just shut you out, so the media has to play ball and be nice and frankly it’s disgusting and everything journalism should be standing against.
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Lol.
So when it comes out that Draper was heavily involved in a very good pick, it just them leaking access because he's been so bad? But fans deciding that all the bad picks on Draper with absolutely 0 access is fine.
What a stupid train of thought
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Yup, that's the problem. The media is owned by Big Draper.
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Oh yeah. I'm positive that we passed over the next Datsyuk just to take Draper's son.
No outrageous rhetoric here...
NA scouting was bottom tier under Holland/Wright too.
Difference is Yzerman plays to his strengths, while Holland was plugging away at drafting NAs his last six or seven years here.
34 of 35 saves against Michigan. Has a .932 SV%. The best player on the #1 ranked team in the country right now. Think he has to at least be in the Hobey Baker discussion.
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Yeah. He should be in but Fowler should finish ahead of him in the voting.
