G Jesper Wallstedt (2021, 20th, MIN)

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People need to know that Jesper is injury-prone and would probably not manage more than 25-30 games at this time. Better to stay in Sweden and play in a top team and possibly get the chance to play with the national team.
 

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People need to know that Jesper is injury-prone and would probably not manage more than 25-30 games at this time. Better to stay in Sweden and play in a top team and possibly get the chance to play with the national team.

I haven’t thought him being that injury prone.

I’m a Luleå fan, I hope we’ll have a good competitive tandem of well performing goaltenders, as we had with Joel Lassinantti and Filip Gustavsson, and David Rautio/Johan Gustafsson.
 

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People need to know that Jesper is injury-prone and would probably not manage more than 25-30 games at this time. Better to stay in Sweden and play in a top team and possibly get the chance to play with the national team.

As evidenced by what?
 

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He has back problems and has had multiple concussions (mild) the last couple of years.


How come you insult him with
your allegations (not the first time) while you would be fine if he stay in Lulea and
hopefully make a spot in the
national team? I don’t get it!
You are not very credible my
friend…
 
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Zach716

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Honestly, if the Rangers are around the mid-teens in the draft, I'd have no issue if they drafted this kid.

I'd be so jealous if Rangers go from the King, a couple of years letting their young guys develop and have a next star goalie right in time.

He'll be an interesting name to look out for. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes 10-12 OA or 25 OA. Always makes the draft fun seeing where these type of players end up.
 

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I'd be so jealous if Rangers go from the King, a couple of years letting their young guys develop and have a next star goalie right in time.

He'll be an interesting name to look out for. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes 10-12 OA or 25 OA. Always makes the draft fun seeing where these type of players end up.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm still high on Igor as the Rangers future goalie - but you never know with injuries, hype not matching up to expectations, etc.
 

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How come you insult him with
your allegations (not the first time) while you would be fine if he stay in Lulea and
hopefully make a spot in the
national team? I don’t get it!
You are not very credible my
friend…
Insult?
He has clearly stated in interviews here in Luleå with the local newspaper that he has back problems and has had multiple mild concussions the last couple of years. He has worked hard with fixing his back as it is now not affecting him at the same extent as before.
Also because I live here in Luleå and follow the team I have quite a good insight in the organisation.
 
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I'd be so jealous if Rangers go from the King, a couple of years letting their young guys develop and have a next star goalie right in time.

He'll be an interesting name to look out for. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes 10-12 OA or 25 OA. Always makes the draft fun seeing where these type of players end up.

The Rangers have zero need for a great young goalie. And people here don’t seem to understand that Wallstedt had a worse draft season than Knight or Askarov. Despite that, he gets a reputation of being more reliable, something that isn’t grounded in reality and is grounded more in reading off some old scouting reports and not following up. I would not be convinced that Wallstedt has the upside of our current goalie, let alone what Hank achieved.
 
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The Rangers have zero need for a great young goalie. And people here don’t seem to understand that Wallstedt had a worse draft season than Knight or Askarov. Despite that, he gets a reputation of being more reliable, something that isn’t grounded in reality and is grounded more in reading off some old scouting reports and not following up. I would not be convinced that Wallstedt has the upside of our current goalie, let alone what Hank achieved.
Uhh, you're not making much sense here.
 

theslatcher

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If you want to debate this, you are going to have to be more specific.
"Despite that, he gets a reputation of being more reliable, something that isn’t grounded in reality and is grounded more in reading off some old scouting reports and not following up."

Makes no sense. You're acting like he hasn't progressed as thought, but he has.

"And people here don’t seem to understand that Wallstedt had a worse draft season than Knight or Askarov."

What are you basing that on? Wallstedt had a good season statwise(better from an eye test because boy, Luleå's defense like that "only allow high quality chances against" hockey), not like you can compare either of their season's as they played in three completely different leagues and on completely different teams.

Sure, he ended his season poorly getting injured and letting in two bad goals in his last few games, but that doesn't negate his play prior to that.
 

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The Rangers have zero need for a great young goalie. And people here don’t seem to understand that Wallstedt had a worse draft season than Knight or Askarov. Despite that, he gets a reputation of being more reliable, something that isn’t grounded in reality and is grounded more in reading off some old scouting reports and not following up. I would not be convinced that Wallstedt has the upside of our current goalie, let alone what Hank achieved.

Every year a goalie is anointed as the next one and gets hyped....Wallstedt has been hyped since he was about 14 years old because he was 6'3 and fully grown at the time compared to his peers. He is a fine goalie but some people have gone nuts again with the hype.
 
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As a top 15 goalie pick he's expected to eventually be a #1/starting goalie. Not the best starting goalie, not annual vezina candidate, just a starting goalie. I think that's fine expectations.
 
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As a top 15 goalie pick he's expected to eventually be a #1/starting goalie. Not the best starting goalie, not annual vezina candidate, just a starting goalie. I think that's fine expectations.
the only goalie in the 1st round whos annually done that is vasy.
 

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"Despite that, he gets a reputation of being more reliable, something that isn’t grounded in reality and is grounded more in reading off some old scouting reports and not following up."

Makes no sense. You're acting like he hasn't progressed as thought, but he has.

"And people here don’t seem to understand that Wallstedt had a worse draft season than Knight or Askarov."

What are you basing that on? Wallstedt had a good season statwise(better from an eye test because boy, Luleå's defense like that "only allow high quality chances against" hockey), not like you can compare either of their season's as they played in three completely different leagues and on completely different teams.

Sure, he ended his season poorly getting injured and letting in two bad goals in his last few games, but that doesn't negate his play prior to that.

I read comments on this website all the time referencing Wallstedt's track record going back to when he was 14 or 15 years old. It's considered some type of advantage he has over guys like Askarov and Knight that we knew about his success a little earlier on. What those comments leave out are that there's no actual indication he was better than those players at those ages. He had some extra hype because it was a little easier to find out and contextualize his success than those others. Having a long track record is not a bad thing. However, this idea that Wallstedt is more of a sure-thing than Knight or Askarov makes no sense to me.

Assessing his game, I wouldn't say that Wallstedt had a terrible season or anything like that, but he wasn't one of the best goalies in the SHL. And his stats went down as the season went on. He held his own at the SHL level as a draft-eligible, albeit a late birthday. At the WJC, he was adequate, not much better or worse. Only two games. I'm not exactly seeing this dominant draft season that he had, at least from a statistical standpoint. From a skill-set standpoint, he's a goalie whose obviously well advanced at a young age. He has less weaknesses to work on than most top level goalie prospects. He has a higher floor. I do however think that compared to Knight and Askarov, which is what we should be doing for a player people talk about as a top 5-15 talent, he's not as athletic.

I guess I'm just not seeing what elevates him as some transformational goalie that some state he is. What distinguishes him from those two guys and even the players in this draft? I think there are some pretty uninformed takes about Wallstedt where people who haven't thought about what they are saying are shaping a story that logically should follow. Think see that Wallstedt was a prodigy at 14, 15, 16, so that means that he's a transformative goalie coming into the NHL next year. But what if that isn't true? Because the way I see it, it isn't true.

Is it hating to say that he's developed well, but not to that extreme standard. Statistically, he's not been bad this season, but he's not dominating. I'm not sure how much we should be regarding his prior play at lower levels. Skill-set wise, he's good, but is he one of the most naturally talented goalies to come around in a long time? I'm not really seeing it. So what would put Wallstedt in this top 5, top 10, top 15 range? Can someone please explain it? I think what another poster mentioned above has merit. It seems to be more about a trend where teams and observers of the league have calculated that the top goalie in a draft is now considered in that range because the upside of a #1 goalie is higher than that of a middle six center or 4th defensemen.
 
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Insult?
He has clearly stated in interviews here in Luleå with the local newspaper that he has back problems and has had multiple mild concussions the last couple of years. He has worked hard with fixing his back as it is now not affecting him at the same extent as before.
Also because I live here in Luleå and follow the team I have quite a good insight in the organisation.

Big no! Today I have been listening to people around him and only one concussion is noted. December 8, 2019. His first and only, so far. Back in training after about a week. We can call it mild.
Hit in the head by pucks twice this season. Onehit from backdoor both times... No concussions, was the reports. Only headaches and safety measures were taken by the team doctor. The dates were October 27 and April 5. With that said, NO multiple concussions, as you want to claim...
Bauer has now done something special with his mask. I don't know what.
Will also check your statement about the back as well.
Please, continue writing about what's true. Your claims have only one purpose, just to hurt him...
I'm surprised that your insight into the club, or what you text about, doesn't provide you correct information ...
 
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Big no! Today I have been listening to people around him and only one concussion is noted. December 8, 2019. His first and only, so far. Back in training after about a week. We can call it mild.
Hit in the head by pucks twice this season. Onehit from backdoor both times... No concussions, was the reports. Only headaches and safety measures were taken by the team doctor. The dates were October 27 and March 22. With that said, NO multiple concussions, as you want to claim...
Will also check your statement about the back as well.
Please, continue writing about what's true. Your claims have only one purpose, just to hurt him...
I'm surprised that your insight into the club, or what you text about, doesn't provide you correct information ...
In what way would what I "claim" hurt him? Wallstedt is a great young goalie with a bright future ahead of him. I brougt up his injury history as a reason why it would not be the best for him as of now to play 50 games. Better to have quality games against men then going up against juniors.
You are right about the consussions, my information about the one in october seems to have been wrong, sorry!
 

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However, this idea that Wallstedt is more of a sure-thing than Knight or Askarov makes no sense to me.
Then, similarly, the idea that Knight or Askarov being more of a sure-thing than Wallstedt should make no sense to you?

Assessing his game, I wouldn't say that Wallstedt had a terrible season or anything like that, but he wasn't one of the best goalies in the SHL. And his stats went down as the season went on. He held his own at the SHL level as a draft-eligible, albeit a late birthday. At the WJC, he was adequate, not much better or worse. Only two games. I'm not exactly seeing this dominant draft season that he had, at least from a statistical standpoint. From a skill-set standpoint, he's a goalie whose obviously well advanced at a young age. He has less weaknesses to work on than most top level goalie prospects. He has a higher floor. I do however think that compared to Knight and Askarov, which is what we should be doing for a player people talk about as a top 5-15 talent, he's not as athletic.
Do you seriously hold it against Wallstedt that he wasn't the best goalie in the SHL for him going top 15? His stats went down, yeah, coinciding with Luleå's play dropping like a rock. Which is why you don't simply stat watch.

As far as the WJC's go, he was good, I'd hardly say he was just adequate. Should've started over Alnefelt, who I assume you thought straight sucked?

Yes, he doesn't rely on his athleticism as much as Askarov or Knight, but it's more that he doesn't have to, and that's something that is great. Could he improve certain aspects of his athleticism? Sure. His glove, & lateral movement are top notch though.

I guess I'm just not seeing what elevates him as some transformational goalie that some state he is. What distinguishes him from those two guys and even the players in this draft? I think there are some pretty uninformed takes about Wallstedt where people who haven't thought about what they are saying are shaping a story that logically should follow. Think see that Wallstedt was a prodigy at 14, 15, 16, so that means that he's a transformative goalie coming into the NHL next year. But what if that isn't true? Because the way I see it, it isn't true.
Well, first off: lets start with saying you've never liked Wallstedt even when in your mind he was thought of as a "prodigy" earlier, so the same sentiment kind of applies to you, don't you think? People view prospects differently, and if you don't agree that's ok. Wallstedt's poise, IQ(positioning, rebound control), & puckhandling are the primary things for me. One can also take a look at his lateral movement, & glove.

Is it hating to say that he's developed well, but not to that extreme standard. Statistically, he's not been bad this season, but he's not dominating. I'm not sure how much we should be regarding his prior play at lower levels. Skill-set wise, he's good, but is he one of the most naturally talented goalies to come around in a long time? I'm not really seeing it. So what would put Wallstedt in this top 5, top 10, top 15 range? Can someone please explain it? I think what another poster mentioned above has merit. It seems to be more about a trend where teams and observers of the league have calculated that the top goalie in a draft is now considered in that range because the upside of a #1 goalie is higher than that of a middle six center or 4th defensemen.
Again, why did you expect him to dominate a league like SHL? Knight wasn't the best goalie in, nor dominated, the USHL his draft year, a far worse league, heck, the following year he wasn't the best goalie in the NCAA, wtf Knight, BUST! So I don't see your point.

It's not that you dislike him, that's been known for a while, it's the way you present your personal view of things. If you simply say that you don't think he's reliable, great! But if you say things like isn't gounded in reality then you should be ready for people to challenge you on it because it's a really poor choice of words.
 
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Assessing his game, I wouldn't say that Wallstedt had a terrible season or anything like that, but he wasn't one of the best goalies in the SHL

It's the third best league in the world... You wouldn't expect a goalie that hasn't even been drafted yet to be one of the best in the AHL either... or even the WHL.

I absolutely love it when people comment about leagues they never followed.
 

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