SI90
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Yes but he still made the saves he had to and came up huge. He also plays at a high level on international teams.
G Ilya Sorokin (2014, 78th, NYI)
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Yes but he still made the saves he had to and came up huge. He also plays at a high level on international teams.
SLAPSHOT723
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You guys need to get this kid over here. I have him in my Dynasty Keeper League took him pretty high too.
I think he might be the Price of his generation. Kid's down low play is absolutely ridiculous. His butterfly is an absolute stone wall. They way he recovers from each shot and hell even the way he flails are at a pretty elite level. His puck tracking skills are pretty elite too. The type of netminder that can give you the opportunity to win every single night as long as you can get on the scoreboard.
Does he become the starting goaltender as soon as he crosses the pond? This kid seems to be getting better and better.
Who knows. He's signed in the KHL through next season, and the Isles don't have a goalie under contract for next year.
I would guess the plan would be to re-sign Greiss, let him start next year, then bring over Sorokin the following year to start in the AHL, get acclimated to the NA game, and work his way up.
SLAPSHOT723
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By 2018, we'll have no NHL goaltenders under contract. I wouldn't mind signing a guy similar to Tomas Vokoun at that stage of his career to share duties with Sorokin, or just re-sign Greiss and have them share the crease for a year. But at this rate it sounds like he's good enough to be a starter right now.
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You have to realize goalie stats pretty much don't mean anything in the KHL, it's extremely team dependent. Samsonov is very good but stats aren't really a source to tell you that.
I think jumping from Europe straight to the NHL is neither smart not likely for a goalie. Vasilevsky crossed the pond as a very good KHL goalie and he still spent seasons in the AHL.
I think jumping from Europe straight to the NHL is neither smart not likely for a goalie. Vasilevsky crossed the pond as a very good KHL goalie and he still spent seasons in the AHL.
Vasilevsky played 37 games in the AHL in his career. So I don't know what your talking about by seasons.
Sorokin as a 20 year old blew former NHL goalie Victor Fasth (who also plays on CSKA)out of the water, and is doing the same thing.
Sorokin had the best stats of any goalie last year and is doing so again this year. There's a reason why he's being hyped as one of the best goalie prospects in the world.
And Goalie prospects rarely make the NHL at 20/21. We it see time and time again.
Uhh..?
Sorokin is 21 already and (assuming he plays out his contract) will be 23 before he plays a single AHL or NHL game.
He can definitely step straight into the NHL if he plays out his contract. Though, I'm sure Isles fans would prefer he comes over after the end of this year and then plays in the AHL for a year.
FLYLine27*
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When he comes over in a year or 2, i don't see why he wouldn't step right into the NHL. Probably split the work load his first season and be the starter the year after.
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We just want him to come over period.
He's one of the best goaltending prospects the franchise has ever had.
Pavel Buchnevich
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He'd probably be good enough to start now for the Isles, but the thing is that you can't really wait for a goalie to adjust to the different rink.
You can hide a defenseman or forward, but can't with a goalie, unless its your back up goalie, and I don't think you guys want him getting 20-25 games instead of 50-60.
It just depends how quickly he adjusts. You can't throw away games waiting for him to learn how to play on NA ice. Maybe if he does really well in preseason, you can keep him in the NHL, but otherwise he'll probably need half a season just to learn how to play on NA ice.
You can hide a defenseman or forward, but can't with a goalie, unless its your back up goalie, and I don't think you guys want him getting 20-25 games instead of 50-60.
It just depends how quickly he adjusts. You can't throw away games waiting for him to learn how to play on NA ice. Maybe if he does really well in preseason, you can keep him in the NHL, but otherwise he'll probably need half a season just to learn how to play on NA ice.
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Vasilevsky only played in the NHL his rookie season because Bishop got injured, isn't that so? And the second year he was still being sent down to play in the AHL, that's what I meant by seasons.
Also nobody was disputing Sorokin is good, all I'm saying is that KHL goalie stats can not and should not be trusted. Someone like Vitali Kolesnik had some crazy good seasons for Loko, statistically. Doesn't mean he is or ever was a good goalie, not even talking about a dominant one as his numbers would suggest. He just played behind the team which allowed his to get stats like that. Same applies to guys like Fokin, Garipov, etc. And Sorokin is playing behind the best team in the league.
NHL RankKing
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That may be true because of the style of play, but the one thing that should be trusted is the fact that he won the Vezina-equivalency as the best goalie in the league. And he looks like he is on track to do that again this year.
The fact that he did that at his age, is truly remarkable!
I agree that goalies do take a bit of time to adjust to the dimensions of a N. American rink when they first come over, but this guy is going to be a stud NHL goalie for a very long time and the Islanders have a hole wide open starting next year. I'm positive that they'll do everything within their power to get him over here.
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Halak is under contract next year so no they don't. It would be nice to have Sorokin back Halak up next year to account for any adjustments in North America to be made, and then take over the starters position in year two, but KHL contracts are very difficult to do with.
Vasilevsky didn't look as good as Sorokin in the KHL, and he's become not the worst NHL goalie. Of course, nobody can guarantee anything, but Sorokin looks like a real deal. I'm almost sure he's gonna be an elite starter in the NHL.
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Sorokin's stats are good, but Islanders fan really like how he plays as well. We haven't stat just stat watched this kid since he became an NYI prospect. He has emendous composure and posture on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd opportunities combined with great athleticism.
SI90
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This makes the most sense. In 2 years he will still just be 22/23. That's really young in NHL standards for a goalie.
Just got to hope the kid stays healthy and continues to get better and play at a high level.
The Iron Curtain
We just want him to come over period.
He's one of the best goaltending prospects the franchise has ever had.
Has he given any indication he will come over (either at the end of this season or at the end of his contract)?
I know he went to the Isles prospect camp which is a good sign.
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He's said his goal is to play in the NHL, along with coming to prospect came like you mentioned.
He hails from the same time as Bobrovsky and is either good friends with him or looks up to him, I can't remember which one.
Acallabeth
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Yep, their former goalie coach from Novokuznetsk once said that Sorokin used to mimic Bobrovsky's style so much he had to be stopped.
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