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Senator Stanley
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I'm having a hard time coming around on Reschny. I worry he's a guy who lacks that one or two special traits that will allow his offensive game to translate. Obviously he's smart and skilled, but I don't see a special level of smarts or skill. I see a guy whose game works at junior pace, but I worry he will struggle to produce as the game gets quicker and the opponents get bigger and faster.
I am a fair bit higher on Kindel, who in my opinion separates himself with the way he processes the game and creates offence. I like the compete, I think the skating will be fine, and I love the way he elevated his game in the playoffs. But what makes me a believer in him - enough to bet on at 21 - is that I think he's a special thinker of the game. He creates so much for himself and others from the way he reads the play, and that kind of intelligence translates to the NHL level. These are not direct comparisons, but guys like Mark Stone and Claude Giroux have thrived in the NHL, despite lacking ideal physical tools, because they are just that much smarter than the average player. That's the bet with Kindel.
I think he's a fine selection in the late 1st, but I suspect there will be better options available at 21.
2025 NHL Combine Heights & Weights - The Hockey Writers NHL Entry Draft Latest News, Analysis & More
We reveal the heights and weights observed at the 2025 NHL Combine. See which prospects have made noticeable gains throughout the year.
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Some interesting measurements:
- Jackson Smith is now 6'4, was listed at 6'3 previously
- Malcolm Spence was listed at 6'2, but he's not even 6'1
- Jack Nesbitt is now 6'4.5 and probably ends up being 6'5 or taller, still needs to put on weight at only 186lbs
- Vaclav Nestrasil is in the same boat as Nesbitt being 6'5.5 but only 185lbs, not close to physically developed yet
- Eklund hasn't grown at all or put on weight, wouldn't surprise me if he falls on draft day
- Carter Amico is a specimen at 6'5.5 and 232lbs
- Will Horcoff has grown to 6'4.75 and also put on 20lbs of weight, was listed at 181lbs and is now 203lbs
aragorn
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Blake Fiddler RD is ranked higher & may be the better prospect & might even be able to move back to get him should they want a RD & another pick. I think they either trade the pick 21st OA or they make a pick & take a forward.
Horcoff set the record for horizontal jumps at the combine.
Would be cool to draft someone that'll jump over the opposition and carry the puck into the net
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Yes they are keeping it and will select this Right Winger
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Wheeler’s latest mock has us taking Spence
Lakovic is the Sens' type, but he'll be long gone before they're up. I could see them liking Simon Wang as well, but this is a little too early (if they were to move back, and I think they're open to it, I could see him being a target in a trade-down). If they stand pat, two players in this range that make sense are Spence and Nesbitt. Both have the competitive spirit and athletic builds they've prioritized in the past, but Spence has more pace and has done it with more consistency and in straight lines. He could be an up-and-down-the-lineup winger for them who really fits their culture.
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Lakovic is the Sens' type, but he'll be long gone before they're up. I could see them liking Simon Wang as well, but this is a little too early (if they were to move back, and I think they're open to it, I could see him being a target in a trade-down). If they stand pat, two players in this range that make sense are Spence and Nesbitt. Both have the competitive spirit and athletic builds they've prioritized in the past, but Spence has more pace and has done it with more consistency and in straight lines. He could be an up-and-down-the-lineup winger for them who really fits their culture.
2025 NHL Mock Draft 2.0: Scott Wheeler predicts the first 32 picks
After the NHL Scouting Combine, here's Scott Wheeler's second version of a first-round mock for the 2025 NHL Draft.
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BondraTime
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I’ve heard that Carbonneau is a guy they would considerer close to best case scenario if he were still there
And have heard that Desjardins is a guy some teams like a lot more than his public ranking (not the Sens, just in general). Some team is likely to take him as an overager in the 4th+ round.
And have heard that Desjardins is a guy some teams like a lot more than his public ranking (not the Sens, just in general). Some team is likely to take him as an overager in the 4th+ round.
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When asked about their 2024 draft class and what to read into most of the picks being huge kids:
"Number one, you can't teach size, but for us that wasn't in the game plan. We want skill, speed. We want what everyone else is trying to look for - skill, speed, hockey sense, compete level, and if you check all the boxes and then one is 5'8" and the other is 6'2" you're going to take the bigger kid. That's just the way it is. But we don't go out looking for that."
Acknowledging the existence of a 5'8" prospect is certainly an encouraging sign. They didn't ask a follow-up specifically about PIMs.
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"Number one, you can't teach size, but for us that wasn't in the game plan. We want skill, speed. We want what everyone else is trying to look for - skill, speed, hockey sense, compete level, and if you check all the boxes and then one is 5'8" and the other is 6'2" you're going to take the bigger kid. That's just the way it is. But we don't go out looking for that."
Acknowledging the existence of a 5'8" prospect is certainly an encouraging sign. They didn't ask a follow-up specifically about PIMs.
Boyd: "Tell us a joke" question served it's purpose
Senators head scout Don Boyd on the scouting combine the importance of leadership, importance of interviewing the players and how deep is the 1st round.
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HockeyProspect's draft guide just came out. Less detailed this year but always a fantastic read.
They are another scouting service to have Nestrasil ranked 1st round (25th). Same goes for Vansaghi (26th).
Something tells me Donny Boyd and the gang will be considering both guys for pick 21.
They are another scouting service to have Nestrasil ranked 1st round (25th). Same goes for Vansaghi (26th).
Something tells me Donny Boyd and the gang will be considering both guys for pick 21.
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Malcolm Spence LW seems to play the game the way the Sens are trying to play now, he has the speed & the skill & compete level they like & he can add some offence. In fact, he looks like he would fit into Florida's team game which is how Ott needs to play with the roster we have.
BondraTime
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I’m very curious as to the direction they go.
This is the first year they have with the current GM and directive in place, there is no chance they changed their checklist or directives last year in January after Staios got acclimatized.
I’m expecting a different draft compared to the past 4 years, I think we will still see the tools and size aspect in most picks, but think we may see a pick or two that doesn’t fit with the last 4 years of the teams picks.
I won’t care too much if they have the exact same game plan from rounds 4-7, but I am praying they alter their plan with rounds 2-3. They can’t keep taking size and truculence, they need to start taking speed and skill.
This is the first year they have with the current GM and directive in place, there is no chance they changed their checklist or directives last year in January after Staios got acclimatized.
I’m expecting a different draft compared to the past 4 years, I think we will still see the tools and size aspect in most picks, but think we may see a pick or two that doesn’t fit with the last 4 years of the teams picks.
I won’t care too much if they have the exact same game plan from rounds 4-7, but I am praying they alter their plan with rounds 2-3. They can’t keep taking size and truculence, they need to start taking speed and skill.
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BondraTime
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I have no clue, we haven’t gone by a BPA approach in ages, or if we have it’s been nothing but misses since 2020.
If they are going by their listed BPA, we have some whole other issues.
BPA, especially past the first 3 rounds, is too subjective to even look into.
One thing is for certain, they have drafted almost no skill since 2021. Have gone with size, tools and physical play from all aside from 3/4 of their 30 picks.
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aragorn
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It also has to be said that this draft past the top 10 is going to be subjective as a lot of drafts are & there are several players that could make sense at 21 OA. I think if they take Kindel RW as an example half the board will be happy half will be pissed, if they take Fiddler RD which would fit a need & leave Kindel on the board, half will be pissed & half will be happy. Given where the team is at, I suspect it's more likely they will trade for skill rather than be in a position to draft it for the next few yrs. when they are building to contend now.
I disagree with the opinion they always go with size, I think they take the guy they have on their list who is still available when they select & I think a lot of things go into that such as maybe they need that kind of player in their system. It would also make sense to go for bigger guys in the later rds who most likely are going to be bottom six players anyway, if they even make it, who help them fill roles. The skill most people want are mostly in the first rds & usually early, once you get into the twenties it becomes a bit of a crap shoot anyway.
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Wheeler’s latest mock has us taking Spence
Lakovic is the Sens' type, but he'll be long gone before they're up. I could see them liking Simon Wang as well, but this is a little too early (if they were to move back, and I think they're open to it, I could see him being a target in a trade-down). If they stand pat, two players in this range that make sense are Spence and Nesbitt. Both have the competitive spirit and athletic builds they've prioritized in the past, but Spence has more pace and has done it with more consistency and in straight lines. He could be an up-and-down-the-lineup winger for them who really fits their culture.
2025 NHL Mock Draft 2.0: Scott Wheeler predicts the first 32 picks
After the NHL Scouting Combine, here's Scott Wheeler's second version of a first-round mock for the 2025 NHL Draft.
We're going to see Spence mocked to the Sens a lot in the next few weeks because he's big (sort of) and competitive, but I'm not sure if he exactly fits the Sens' type. For me, the concern with Spence is whether he's an early-to-develop prospect who's started to plateau in his development. Combine that concern with a relatively low ceiling and I actually think the risk-reward on this player doesn't make a ton of sense - at least at 21.
The Sens have typically gone for prospects who are trending up in their draft seasons and/or are more projection rather than what-you-see-is-what-you're-going-to-get.
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There is plenty of skill in rounds 2 and beyond but you have to look for it and not just blindly favour size and physical play.
Skilled guys available in later rounds of the draft who have had significant impacts in the regular season but mostly in the playoffs in the last 10 years:
Point
Palat
Aho
Verhaeghe
Marchessault
Kucherov
Stone
Johnson
I'm missing loads but we aren't getting those kinds of players by picking Eliasson, Roger, Ellinas, Andonovski, Wallenius, Romeo, etc.. It's not that all those players are bad but you aren't getting any skill out of them, something we sorely lack in the organization, from top to bottom.
Most of those players are longshots to make the NHL; why not make the long shot a player with star upside?
