Straight ahead speed and acceleration are easy to observe - it's not something he has to prove this year, because he's done it. He's fast. Can he handle the pace of the NHL? I'm more curious how many D-men can handle his pace. Okay, that video doesn't show speed, but I'm very comfortable returning to this topic in, let's say, November or December. Then you won't have to take my word for it.
Friedman: Hartnell agreed to waive No move clause
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Straight ahead speed and acceleration are easy to observe - it's not something he has to prove this year, because he's done it. He's fast. Can he handle the pace of the NHL? I'm more curious how many D-men can handle his pace. Okay, that video doesn't show speed, but I'm very comfortable returning to this topic in, let's say, November or December. Then you won't have to take my word for it.
Kobe Armstrong
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A 1st. We have potentially 3 top four LHD already so Emelins inclusion doesn't help us, meanwhile we have somewhat of a need for Hartnell.
Viqsi
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My policy on Emelin trades is simple: if you're not taking back David Clarkson, the answer is no.
If, perchance in the future, David Clarkson vanishes from the roster, then it will revert to what my policy was before he came here: the answer is always no.
We do not want, nor do we need, nor have we ever wanted, nor will we ever need, Alexei Emelin.
Respectfully, did you watch any of the Calder Cup & Calder Cup final? just a net presence on the PP? Have a look at some of the box scores when he played 8-10 minutes a night for Torts- usually led his team in hits and/or the game in hits. I get it- he has a lot to prove- remember he was second in goal scoring on LEM behind Zaar with 13 less games played. 4th in overall points and played 18 games less than the leader Tynan only 7 points behind. Imagine if he played all 76 games. Oh yeah and 108 PIM. He has been under-rated his entire career but keeps winning. Would be foolish not to protect him at 22 years old. I wont even talk about his skating and speed that would be stupid to address. He blazing fast at 220lbs
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Yes, he has played well in the AHL this year. No such glimpses in his chances here. Is it because of the level of competition? The pace of play? A lot to prove... Let's see after 82 games what he is before annoiting him one of the 8 most important forwards... Confusion?
Respectfully, you and I see different things with our glimpses.
No one is getting anointed or crowned anything. The expansion protection is almost a year from now. I'm just expected Anderson will play at a level that I would like him to be protected, and I suspect that you and many other posters might agree with me when the time comes.
Viqsi
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For the record, while I respect your opinion and generally trust your judgment, I still think you're bat**** crazy on this one. But we'll see.
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That seems to be the way discussions go.
I wouldn't be offended if you started splitting threads.
Xoggz22
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Hey, how about that Hartnell guy? Looks like he provided a list of teams he would move to...
Still think moving him would be a good option but not at any cost. I think he could be moved at the deadline for value if he's playing well.
Still think moving him would be a good option but not at any cost. I think he could be moved at the deadline for value if he's playing well.
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They all seem to be running together. I have no idea what the thread topic is when I'm reading discussion.
But as you said, it's the course the discussion has gone. I'm not touching any of them.
Agreed, it depends on where the Jackets are come deadline. If we're in a playoff position or fighting for one (yes I said the P word) then I don't think he gets moved. No way Jarmo takes the chance of ****ing with the chemistry and missing out on the playoffs. However if we're on the outside looking in then I think he gets shipped to the highest bidder.
JKinCLE
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Hartnell will have another productive year and all we will hear at the TDL is "Well that contract is terrible, he's gonna drop off in production soon" same old, same old. Hopefully some of the garbage contracts given out in free agency will put Hartnell's into perspective.
But that term though...
Viqsi
"that chick from Ohio"
Frankly, at this point, given Hartnell's proven ability to help with kids (see: Dano, Wennberg), I want him around for Bjorkstrand, Anderson, (eventually) PLD, and/or anyone else we bring up. The current crisis is over, and at this point I don't think it's worth it to trade him.
Absolutely. We can revisit at the trade deadline, but there's no point in moving him now.
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Viqsi
"that chick from Ohio"
There was a crisis?
Veteran assistance is nice, but we don't need to be in a position where we might need to protect him. He was waiving his NMC to go to teams he wanted to, it's pretty reasonable to assume he actually wants to win and Vegas probably isn't that team.
Yeah, his production is fine. Yeah, he's a good teammate. No I don't see a compelling reason to keep him.
Look the reality is that we really didn't change anything from a team that earned the #3 overall pick. Nothing. Not a damn thing after we acquired Jones. We bought out a couple of bad contracts, so addition by subtraction theory.
Hopefully it was just an off year for everyone that sucked that had big contracts, because we're primed for another disaster if our best players aren't our best players again outside of Saad and to a lesser extent Hartnell. You really can't have around 25 million is sub-par play every season.
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Going that way you eventually hit a tree.
The change is not in the players. It is in each one of them.
