Rumor: Friedman/Dhaliwal- Canucks and Marcus Pettersson nearing on a long term extension

[Ford Prefect]

What will the new extension look like? i think it falls below Hronek..

6/7 years at 6.5 mil AAV? must be nice for these upcoming UFA's to be dealing with a higher cap.


Dhaliwal: He spoke with Marcus Pettersson's agent and he says both sides know its going to be a long term deal and that he expects something to get done very soon.


Friedman: " I believe the Canucks are getting to UFA Marcus Petteron's agent pretty quickly here on an extension.

Canucks and Marcus Pettersson both expect a long-term extension soon: report

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I don't understand why players are in such a rush to sign extensions when they first get there. He ultimately was traded there because of locker room issues, wouldn't you want to kinda get a feel for the culture of the team that you're signing with before you commit? It's not like the offer won't be there in April or May.

 

[Gurglesons]

I don't understand why players are in such a rush to sign extensions when they first get there. He ultimately was traded there because of locker room issues, wouldn't you want to kinda get a feel for the culture of the team that you're signing with before you commit? It's not like the offer won't be there in April or May.

Because Vancouver is probably one of if not the best market on the west coast to live in.

 

[wintersej]

lol Q Hughes making 7.8... Of course older contracts look great.


Percentage of cap is probably what you should be comparing.

The thing about cap percentage when the cap is exploding is interesting. Cap percentage of when in the deal? When the cap is going up 3 million a year, basing it on the year it was signed is fine. But in this landscape? Will be interesting. E.g. if I am a player signing a 7 year deal, I want to talk about the percentage in year 3 and 4.

 

[Ford Prefect]

Because Vancouver is probably one of if not the best market on the west coast to live in.

So you think he's making his decision based on where he's going to sleep during the regular season? As opposed to the players and the staff he'll be tied to for the foreseeable future? And almost every city is a great city when you live like a professional athlete. Granted, I can certainly see the appeal of LA or Miami over Edmonton or Winnipeg (speaking only as a place to live), but you'd think that would come secondary to a good environment and a winning culture.

 

[Gurglesons]

So you think he's making his decision based on where he's going to sleep during the regular season? As opposed to the players and the staff he'll be tied to for the foreseeable future? And almost every city is a great city when you live like a professional athlete. Granted, I can certainly see the appeal of LA or Miami over Edmonton or Winnipeg (speaking only as a place to live), but you'd think that would come secondary to a good environment and a winning culture.

I think he's happy to take a 6-7 mllion over a 6-7 year period to live in Vancouver.

 

[Bankerguy]

Hughes Hronek Pettersson is a pretty great top 3 if they can in fact lock Petey up.
Myers chews through minutes so i dont mind having him if he's No.4 or lower.
Need D-Petey and Willander to establish themselves and then they're really set.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

The thing about cap percentage when the cap is exploding is interesting. Cap percentage of when in the deal? When the cap is going up 3 million a year, basing it on the year it was signed is fine. But in this landscape? Will be interesting. E.g. if I am a player signing a 7 year deal, I want to talk about the percentage in year 3 and 4.

UFAs now know that the cap is going up by 20M+ over the next 3 seasons so they have leverage to push for a bit more. I think there will be a bit of a middle ground where players aren't going to get what they would under a 113.5M cap, because there isn't that amount of free cap available to support that - but they will get more than they would have gotten if it wasn't known that the cap is going that high that quickly.

It's the RFAs who will benefit the most. If you have a young first line forward who previously would have gotten 8x8, and they only will sign for 9 or 10, maybe you have to think about it because a 1-3 year deal might position them to get a lot more than 10. Similar to when Draisaitl got 8.5M, and everybody lost their minds because they previous number for his contemporaries was 6M.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Seeing it up close with Huberdeau, it's always advised to wait a bit before hammering these things out.

 

[CascadiaPuck]

I don't understand why players are in such a rush to sign extensions when they first get there. He ultimately was traded there because of locker room issues, wouldn't you want to kinda get a feel for the culture of the team that you're signing with before you commit? It's not like the offer won't be there in April or May.

He’s one awkward hit or puck to the head away from never getting paid to play the game again and you’re wondering why he doesn’t move to sign an 8 figure contract relatively quickly?

 

[sting101]

I don't understand why players are in such a rush to sign extensions when they first get there. He ultimately was traded there because of locker room issues, wouldn't you want to kinda get a feel for the culture of the team that you're signing with before you commit? It's not like the offer won't be there in April or May.

RISK Pressure and Comfort

First off he's going to UFA and inherits risk in doing that. If he gets hurt or his agent Klingbergs him he blows millions.

Then there is pressure to get a deal done so the team can have cost certainties locked down for the summer. If a player balks at that they wont get special treatment and in fact most teams will move on

Players of his ilk and age typically have an idea of the rooms and players they are going to join and the cities they will be playing in. I do agree with what you are saying but a deal like this with prior relationships and knowing from both sides what to expect it should be fairly comfortable for both sides to lock it down

 

[Siludin]

Gonna guess 8 x $5.5m

 

[shello]

Watch it be over 7m and the cap doesn't even go up by much

 

[Rowlet]

Watch it be over 7m and the cap doesn't even go up by much

Its already announced at like 95.5m next year

 

[shello]

Its already announced at like 95.5m next year

Hardly set in stone, especially with the Canadian dollar falling

 

[settinguptheplay]

Hardly set in stone, especially with the Canadian dollar falling

NHL teams pay in US Dollars. Even in Canada. How the Loonie is doing won't change the NHL's financials unless an economic disaster hits. In which case the NHL Salary Cap is the least of our concerns.

 

[Russian_fanatic]

Hes been amazing since coming over. Just a calming presence in the back end. I was expecting a #3, but he has played like a legit top pairing defender. The guy is NEVER out of position.

 

[Viking10]

I wouldn’t want to go over 5m or slightly over, maybe a 4-5yr deal.

Canucks have lhd prospects like D Petey, KK, Mynio that could be regular NHLers over the next 1-3 yrs also. Plus Marcus P is turning 29, 3-4yrs older than Hronek who got bit over 7m long term.

Maybe they tried deferred $ or trade protection or go 6 yrs to get aav slightly under 5m per?

 

[Empoleon8771]

I wouldn’t want to go over 5m or slightly over, maybe a 4-5yr deal.

Canucks have lhd prospects like D Petey, KK, Mynio that could be regular NHLers over the next 1-3 yrs also. Plus Marcus P is turning 29, 3-4yrs older than Hronek who got bit over 7m long term.

Maybe they tried deferred $ or trade protection or go 6 yrs to get aav slightly under 5m per?

Literally zero chance you get Pettersson signed for under $5 million a year.

 

[Regal]

I wouldn’t want to go over 5m or slightly over, maybe a 4-5yr deal.

Canucks have lhd prospects like D Petey, KK, Mynio that could be regular NHLers over the next 1-3 yrs also. Plus Marcus P is turning 29, 3-4yrs older than Hronek who got bit over 7m long term.

Maybe they tried deferred $ or trade protection or go 6 yrs to get aav slightly under 5m per?

He’s already been making 4 that he signed well before the cap increase. There’s no way he’d sign under 5. D-Petey has had a strong start but there’s a big gap between a few strong games and a regular top 4 defenseman. Plus, dmen are always in demand so trading him should others pass him isn’t difficult.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

I wouldn’t want to go over 5m or slightly over, maybe a 4-5yr deal.

Canucks have lhd prospects like D Petey, KK, Mynio that could be regular NHLers over the next 1-3 yrs also. Plus Marcus P is turning 29, 3-4yrs older than Hronek who got bit over 7m long term.

Maybe they tried deferred $ or trade protection or go 6 yrs to get aav slightly under 5m per?

Hronek is 27 and Pettersson is 28. Where are you getting 3-4 years older from. You could sign him to your proposed deal if it was 2020 maybe.

 

[BHD]

Will the Canucks be signing a puck moving defenseman as well?

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Hardly set in stone, especially with the Canadian dollar falling

It doesnt matter how the Canadian dollar is doing.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Will the Canucks be signing a puck moving defenseman as well?

Pettersson moves the puck just fine.

 

[RandV]

I wouldn’t want to go over 5m or slightly over, maybe a 4-5yr deal.

Canucks have lhd prospects like D Petey, KK, Mynio that could be regular NHLers over the next 1-3 yrs also. Plus Marcus P is turning 29, 3-4yrs older than Hronek who got bit over 7m long term.

Maybe they tried deferred $ or trade protection or go 6 yrs to get aav slightly under 5m per?

It's always good to have but you can never pencil in a prospect pool to an NHL blue line. If you have effective proven top 4 guys in their mid-late 20's you prioritize signing them first, and let the prospects work their way up through the bottom pair. If things get crowded, it's never hard to make a trade.

Blue chip prospects aside, realistically most good D prospects will end up at the NHL level somewhere in the range of Derek Forbot to Noah Juulsen, both former 1st round picks. You collect a bunch of them like the Canucks have to find a Kevin Bieska or Alex Edler out of the group that can make the next step.