GDT: Free Agent Frenzy

[RRhoads]

The Walman trade and the lack of UFA aggressiveness makes you question the direction we're headed.

Those two things are connected.

Wings are short on cap space, and had two ship out a contract.

Wibgs are short on cap space and can't be aggressive in free agency.

 

[datsyukfan]

Those two things are connected.

Wings are short on cap space, and had two ship out a contract.

Wibgs are short on cap space and can't be aggressive in free agency.

How exactly are they short on cap space?

 

[RRhoads]

How exactly are they short on cap space?

They have at most 3M after signing RFAs for a forward if they go with the defense they have.

 

[dj4aces]

How exactly are they short on cap space?

Depends on what we're doing with Ray and Mo, doesn't it? Term plus money could absolutely take a chunk of cap space. Plus, there was the Trouba trade rumor, which also may have had an effect.

 

[odin1981]

I would look to making some calls to Colorado if I'm Stevie. They only have 16 roster players signed and are 300k away from the cap.

 

[datsyukfan]

I would look to making some calls to Colorado if I'm Stevie. They only have 16 roster players signed and are 300k away from the cap.

Ya he will probably try to get Ross Colton more of the same as what we have

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

We have the cap may as well do Tarasenko 1 year deal. I’d take Nate Schmidt as a 3rd pair league min after getting bought out.

Still would really push a trade for Necas. Berggren and or 2025 1st. I dont know what the deal would look like.

Cat-Larkin-Kane
Tarasenko-Necas-Raymond
Danielson/Kasper-Compher- Fabbri
Rasmussen-Copp-Fischer
Veleno

Ed-Seider(Don’t care, run them together)
Gus-Chiarot
Schmidt-Petry/Mattaa

Talbot/Husso

Necas
Is
Not
A
Center

 

[odin1981]

Guys, stop dreaming of players getting their last paydays. This league is for youngsters. We gonna be more than fine with Danielsson and Kasper in the lineup.

We just need to trade Holl and dump Petry.

I understand he is not the best player anymore. But what is with everyone's fascination with dumping Petry? He has one year remaining, and while he is overpaid by about 1 to 1.5m he is pretty much someone who you would want sitting in a #7 slot on d. He is a vet pro who will stay in shape and be ready for action as injuries open slots up. Provided our D are not ravaged by injuries which would mean putting him on the second pairing or higher he doesn't look out of place on the third pairing.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

What July 1st was it that Petry signed here on a longterm deal again.. 2020?

 

[datsyukfan]

I understand he is not the best player anymore. But what is with everyone's fascination with dumping Petry? He has one year remaining, and while he is overpaid by about 1 to 1.5m he is pretty much someone who you would want sitting in a #7 slot on d. He is a vet pro who will stay in shape and be ready for action as injuries open slots up. Provided our D are not ravaged by injuries which would mean putting him on the second pairing or higher he doesn't look out of place on the third pairing.

I think it’s just because we have so many bottom pair d-men.

I understand he is not the best player anymore. But what is with everyone's fascination with dumping Petry? He has one year remaining, and while he is overpaid by about 1 to 1.5m he is pretty much someone who you would want sitting in a #7 slot on d. He is a vet pro who will stay in shape and be ready for action as injuries open slots up. Provided our D are not ravaged by injuries which would mean putting him on the second pairing or higher he doesn't look out of place on the third pairing.

I think it’s just because we have so many bottom pair d-men.

 

[odin1981]

What July 1st was it that Petry signed here on a longterm deal again.. 2020?

Don't quote me but I believe 2022-23 season. He has been here for 2 seasons.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Don't quote me but I believe 2022-23 season. He has been here for 2 seasons.

Ahh ok...i thought we traded for him in August 2023

 

[odin1981]

Ahh ok...i thought we traded for him in August 2023

If I remember correctly, he was a deadline deal 22-23 or offseason, same year we signed Holl.

 

[RRhoads]

Don't quote me but I believe 2022-23 season. He has been here for 2 seasons.

Are you serious?

 

[odin1981]

Are you serious?

Yeah pretty sure. Granted I just got off work after a long day so my memory might not be great as far as accuracy goes.

 

[Henkka]

I would look to making some calls to Colorado if I'm Stevie. They only have 16 roster players signed and are 300k away from the cap.

I see 17 players signed, and they are 3.89M away from cap and Landeskog is going to LTIR again.

The real cap space is 10.9M.

 

[RRhoads]

Yeah pretty sure. Granted I just got off work after a long day so my memory might not be great as far as accuracy goes.

He was traded here last off season, long after free agency started.

 

[odin1981]

I see 17 players signed, and they are 3.89M away from cap and Landeskog is going to LTIR again.

The real cap space is 10.9M.

Oh forgot about Landeskog on ltir.

 

[Henkka]

How exactly are they short on cap space?

Red Wings have 21.6M in cap space.

Seider 8.5M
Raymond 7.0M
Veleno 1.6M
Berggren 1.1M
12th forward 775k (at least)
13th forward 775 (at least)
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Total 19.75M

It shinks pretty fast after RFA deals.

 

[odin1981]

He was traded here last off season, long after free agency started.

You very well could be right. I'm not 100% after a long day but I am sure he came here same year we signed Holl.

 

[Dotter]

Yzeman acquired Petry 2023. He acquired Holl when he was 31. So two aging dmen.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Yzeman acquired Petry 2023. He acquired Holl when he was 31. So two aging dmen.

100% correct on acquisition timeline..

X1 35 y/o low risk trade
X1 31 y/o overpaid #6 bad dman signing

Moral...dont aquire lousy hockey players no matter the avenue

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

it's so funny to me when people look at the contracts that have already been signed and say, 'i would have done that deal or that deal. wtf stevie?'

like, how do you think these negotiations happen? do you think that every agent in the business calls yzerman immediately before signing a contract and says, 'hey steve. this is the best offer we've gotten but we were wondering if you can match it? my client would even be willing to go a little less on the term or aav because he already got the red wings logo tattooed on the tip of his p*nis and it's going to be a long, awkward 5 years walking around another locker room with that thing hanging out. please get back to us at your earliest convenience, we're willing to wait until the last day of preseason to hear back from you.'

 

[RRhoads]

You very well could be right. I'm not 100% after a long day but I am sure he came here same year we signed Holl.

Yup, came here a while after. It was the Erik Karlsson trade that fueled the Petry trade. First Petry was traded retained to MTL, and then MTL retained in a trade to us. We didn't give up much for him.

If it had happened before Holl, I don't think Holl would have been signed.

 

[Henkka]

If it had happened before Holl, I don't think Holl would have been signed.

The thing is, that you don't know at July, what will happen at August.