Speculation: Free Agent Frenzy Part V: Gorton is on McLeod Nine.

[Vitto79]

If this team keeps all the RFAs they should run 4 lines

I’d give Skjei a long term , kinda iffy on Hayes , spooner should be flipped so 1 year.

Spooner could turn into a Zherdev but I hope not

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

If this team keeps all the RFAs they should run 4 lines

I’d give Skjei a long term , kinda iffy on Hayes , spooner should be flipped so 1 year.

Spooner could turn into a Zherdev but I hope not

I'd give Skjei 5×5. A but of an overpay but you get good term out of it.

Hayes I'd give a similar contract that Lindholm signed.

Spooner I'd be OK with a 1 or 2 year deal sub $3MM per. Would be valuable at the TDL.

 

[TheGuarantee]

I'd give Skjei 5×5. A but of an overpay but you get good term out of it.

Hayes I'd give a similar contract that Lindholm signed.

Spooner I'd be OK with a 1 or 2 year deal sub $3MM per. Would be valuable at the TDL.

Skjei doesn’t deserve 5x5. If he’s getting 5per, it better be for 7 or even 8 years

 

[RangerBoy]

Anybody know if Karlsson was traded yet? Coulda swore people said it would be done within 24 hours...two weekends ago.

Yeah, wake me up when he gets moved at the deadline for a rental package without an extension signed.

Heatley in 2009 went through the same thing. He wanted out. Heatley reported to camp and was immediately traded to San Jose. Both sides were sick of each other. Ottawa took the offer already on the table. Ottawa will get much less everyday Karlsson is on the team. Dorion needs to make the deal with Tampa,Dallas or Las Vegas before the camp opens. Major distraction. Karlsson gets hurt again. Dorion should just quit.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Feels like they've been that for almost a decade.

That's because they haven't made the playoffs in nearly a decade

 

[nyrage]

Again it's all relative. If you live in NY we all pay the crazy taxes. If your in a union you pay union dues. He still makes more than most in the US with all those withholdings taken into consideration.

In perspective I live pretty comfortably but to earn his $1mm (approx) in 2 years after withholdings it would take me almost 10 years after my withholdings.

Think I've derailed the conversation so I'll stop lol

You probably don't take pucks to the face and all other kinds of injuries. I never made it to the NHL, but I played for 30+ years. I've broken everything just about (ribs, wrists, toes, fingers, separated shoulders, torn acl, 3 broken noses, orbital, multiple teeth, stitches to the face/head, concussions, several surgeries, etc). I'm only 51 and sometimes my knees or shoulders are killing me. I can't imagine what professionals go through.

Sure, it's a game they probably love, but the game doesn't love you after you quit. Even if you're rich, it's hard to get your health back. They deserve their money. Not that you're saying they don't. There's just another side to making a lot of money.

 

[RGY]

Will be funny when EK gets traded to the Rangers and signs an extension

 

[RangerBoy]

Matheson got just under $5M for 8. Slavin got $5.3M for 7. Skjei is better than Matheson. Equal to Slavin. Parayko got $5.5M for 5. Jones got $5.6M for 6. Steal for Columbus. Matheson and Slavin are good comparables.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

by like four points

carolina ain’t **** to me until they’ve actually done something. right now, they’re still the “they’ll be good next year” team, four years running.

Carolina isn’t on my radar because you’re right, however they’ve given me a severe case of defense envy.....

 

[Ghost of jas]

Heatley in 2009 went through the same thing. He wanted out. Heatley reported to camp and was immediately traded to San Jose. Both sides were sick of each other. Ottawa took the offer already on the table. Ottawa will get much less everyday Karlsson is on the team. Dorion needs to make the deal with Tampa,Dallas or Las Vegas before the camp opens. Major distraction. Karlsson gets hurt again. Dorion should just quit.

Dorion is in such a bad spot. Other GMs can just wait him out, and he’s ever going to get proper value. It’s why I continue to believe this charade is likely to go right near the tradeline to get done.

 

[RGY]

Dorion is in such a bad spot. Other GMs can just wait him out, and he’s ever going to get proper value. It’s why I continue to believe this charade is likely to go right near the tradeline to get done.

Agreed. Unless a team gets desperate and wants to snag him sooner they are losing value by the day. And given that the interested teams like TB, Vegas, and Dallas are going to be competitive regardless of EK, all three can just wait months into the season until they make their push. And as months go by that is less service time teams will be trading for which will decrease value. Dorion is only backing Ottawa into a corner at this point.

 

[Off Sides]

If they sign Spooner to a two year deal, they will have 6 forwards who would be pending UFAs in the summer of 2020

If they are able to sell them as rentals, I guess that is sort of a plan.

Yet Beleskey is one of them and he is not likely to have much if any value. Kreider, Fast, Name, Vesey being the others along with Spooner should have his deal end that same year.

If there is an expansion draft that following off-season, I'd think they would have rather had some of those players signed for the following year so they could expose them in lieu of players they probably will not want to expose at that time.

I don't know, maybe I am missing something, but I'm not entirely sure I get the idea behind having their cap structured in such a way, maybe they think the 2020 trade deadline is going to be a huge sellers market?

Maybe the Rangers know something about the CBA, they feel as if one side or the other will opt out before the 2020 season and for some reason they want many of their contracts to expire before hand? Even then I'm not sure I can come up with what the reasoning would be as I doubt it would because they do not want to pay them not to play, I'd probably expect that from Ottawa or some other lesser revenue generating team.

Maybe they think expansion will not happen if there is going to be a shortened season? Maybe the PA will opt out and ask for part of the expansion fees to be included in HRR or else they will hold out and cause expansion to be delayed?

Bunch of questions, I do not have answers.

 

[Player big P]

You probably don't take pucks to the face and all other kinds of injuries. I never made it to the NHL, but I played for 30+ years. I've broken everything just about (ribs, wrists, toes, fingers, separated shoulders, torn acl, 3 broken noses, orbital, multiple teeth, stitches to the face/head, concussions, several surgeries, etc). I'm only 51 and sometimes my knees or shoulders are killing me. I can't imagine what professionals go through.

Sure, it's a game they probably love, but the game doesn't love you after you quit. Even if you're rich, it's hard to get your health back. They deserve their money. Not that you're saying they don't. There's just another side to making a lot of money.

Well why didn't you try buying a more durable model after breaking the first one?

 

[SA16]

Skjei is worse than both Matheson and Slavin.

 

[haveandare]

I'd definitely sign Skjei long term, I doubt his demands would be too unreasonable for what he brings.

Hayes I'd also be willing to give decent term but no clauses if at all possible. If he absolutely insists on them, don't let them last beyond the next 2 years no matter what.

Seems pretty clear looking at the current contract situation that management wants to be as unencumbered as possible in 2 years time. I think a guy like Skjei can go beyond that because he will be a good middle pairing player at worst for years still and his cap hit will likely be fair for that to start and then cheap for that toward the end. Hayes' deal can go beyond that too imo but he has to be moveable by then if not the entire time. He's blossoming into a real asset but if/when 2 or more of Chytil, Andersson and Howden make it, he'll become expendable.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Skjei is not nearly as good as Slavin and I'd reckon he is not as good as Matheson either

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Skjei is not nearly as good as Slavin and I'd reckon he is not as good as Matheson either

I don't know about that.

 

[Leetch3]

give brady the same deal that mcdonagh had...6 years $4.7 mil

 

[darko]

give brady the same deal that mcdonagh had...6 years $4.7 mil

I'd be all for it.

 

[True Blue]

Not with him.

Maybe with Hayes.

Why are people (in general, not directed at you) so insistent that Hayes is not a part of the future or that the Rangers do not want to sign him long term eventually? Depending on how the rebuild is going and how the prospects are progressing, in a few years Hayes would still be a solid contributor and fairly young. And at the center position. I am not so sure that players like Zib, Krieder, Hayes or Vesey are not part of the future.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Why are people (in general, not directed at you) so insistent that Hayes is not a part of the future or that the Rangers do not want to sign him long term eventually? Depending on how the rebuild is going and how the prospects are progressing, in a few years Hayes would still be a solid contributor and fairly young. And at the center position. I am not so sure that players like Zib, Krieder, Hayes or Vesey are not part of the future.

I think if they wanted to sign him long term we would have heard about it.

Instead, we've heard that the team isn't sure what they want to do with him. Hes also a very valuable trade chip currently whose value may never be higher. There are tons of reasons to explore moving him.

I think its safe to say that Vesey won't be part of the future. The other 2 I don't know, really depends on how things play out.

 

[offdacrossbar]

skjei needs to be paid.

hes a foundation piece whether we thinks he's a noris trophy guy or not.

what is it with this place and younger players ?

he's earned a 2nd deal

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Who has said that Skjei doesn't need to be signed?

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Pay him now a bit above market value as hes coming into his own and the team has the space and save when the team is competing. Going to cost more to sign long term in 2 years then it will if you sign him now.

 

[True Blue]

I think if they wanted to sign him long term we would have heard about it.

Why would we have heard about it? Gorton's forte has not been on the side of telegraphing his moves.

Instead, we've heard that the team isn't sure what they want to do with him. Hes also a very valuable trade chip currently whose value may never be higher. There are tons of reasons to explore moving him.

Where have we heard this from aside from reading it around here? That is pure speculation.

Krieder is a very valuable trade chip whose value may never be higher. Why is there no speculation on him being traded? Or Zib? Or Henke? There are tons of reasons to explore moving them also.

I think its safe to say that Vesey won't be part of the future. The other 2 I don't know, really depends on how things play out.

Why is that safe to say? Because they did not go out and sign him to a 5 year deal? They just signed him for two years, not one. Maybe they want to see what they have without AV running the ship, so that they can make educated decisions about the future of the team and the players?